L.A. Protesters Try to Break Into Hospital Where Two Officers Are in Critical Condition

[Dial H For Hero]

Full title which didn't quite fit: "L.A. Protesters Try to Break Into Hospital Where Two Officers Are in Critical Condition After 'A Cowardly' Shooting"

https://www.newsweek.com/los-angeles-officers-critical-condition-shooting-1531552

Two Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies are fighting for their lives after they were shot multiple times at point-blank range in an ambush, authorities said.

Crowds of protesters blocked the entrance to St. Francis Medical Center in Lynwood, where the wounded officers were in a critical condition, police said. Some protesters chanted "we hope they die," the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Office said on Twitter. A witness told ABC7 that some had tried to break into the hospital's emergency room.

The shooting happened at around 7 p.m. Saturday at the Metro Blue Line station at Willowbrook Avenue and Compton Boulevard, not far from the Compton sheriff's station.

The Los Angeles County Sheriff's department shared video of the incident in a post on Twitter that shows a person open fire through the passenger-side window of the patrol car in Compton.

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[Iliyah]

1. What? . ..

Those protestors do not represent us

[Dial H For Hero]

2. Certainly not. No decent person would act in such a manner.

[dustyscamp]

53. They don't, but the right will find a way to make it seem like they do

[bluedigger]

3. Sounds like a lot of hooey.

"Police said" "the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Office said on Twitter"

Who are these spokespeople? Do they have evidence? Do they understand what "hearsay" evidence is, and how it is received in court? I need to see some video footage confirming any of this.

[former9thward]

7. Video for those who don't think it happened

https://www.presstelegram.com/2020/09/12/2-l-a-county-sheriffs-deputies-shot-in-compton/

[LisaL]

8. The shooter is very short.

Her or she looks to be about as tall as the car. A minor?

[tblue37]

61. Whoever it is, he is sagging his pants pretty low. nt

[RhodeIslandOne]

17. Aaaaand right on cue.

[Blue_true]

67. That struck me also. Same tone over and over. nt

[RandiFan1290]

18. Probably another of trump's 'boogaloo boys'

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/17/boogaloo-steven-carrillo/

An officer was gunned down. The killer was a ‘boogaloo boy’ using nearby peaceful protests as cover, feds say.

[cwydro]

23. That's a different episode.

But I’m guessing you know that.

[Blue_true]

68. I wouldn't put it past a boogaloo boi to be wearing blackface during the shooting.

The group has two goals, to kill police officers and to ignite a race war.

[Blue_true]

66. That is my guess also.

There is only one group that is violently going after police. I wouldn’t put it past them to be wearing blackface to disguise their appearance. Hopefully there are other cameras that caught a picture of the shooter.

[George II]

49. I don't think anyone is denying that the shooting happened, it was horrible. We had one like that...

...in NYC several years ago. Someone sneaked up on the car and shot the officer inside. I believe he died on the scene.

What people are doubting is that there were demonstrators saying what the Sheriff claims they were saying. There's no video of that, just the word of the Sheriff.

[Maraya1969]

56. I know it happened. We are just trying to figure out if these protests are real. It doesn't make

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sense, to me anyway.

[former9thward]

85. It makes sense if someone hates the police.

The LA Mayor condemned the protesters.

Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti (D) on Sunday condemned protesters who reportedly yelled "death to police" outside the hospital where two Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department deputies are being treated and in critical condition after being shot.


https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/516232-la-mayor-condemns-protesters-shouting-death-to-police-outside-hospital

[Maraya1969]

86. Well that is just a shame. But I can kind of understand them. I don't know how black people

have not gathered up and stormed police stations across the country for the way they have been treated for so many years I am not saying it is right. I'm saying I understand it.

[bluedigger]

62. I hope you don't think the I did not believe shooting happened.

My response was to the eagerness of the LAPD to ascribe the act to protestors.

[hardluck]

25. Here's the NPR reporter's twitter feed

She was arrested there by the sheriffs while covering the protest. She has some video of the protest and is going to write more about her arrest. ABC news interviewed a priest describing the protesters trying to get in the hospital. No video of that.

https://mobile.twitter.com/josie_huang/status/1305102941624229889

[Celerity]

45. the shooter looks like a little kid or a very, very short adult

Link to tweet

[Blue_true]

65. Have you noticed that OPs like this are written by people that joined this year and

have no democratic presidential candidate preference?

[JI7]

4. any other sources or even video that this happened ?

[LisaL]

6. Yes, there is a video of the shooting.

In fact it's linked in the OP article.

[Tom Rinaldo]

11. I think the request is for video of the alleged protesr n/t

[Dial H For Hero]

12. Here's a report from a locl television station:

https://abc7.com/2-lasd-deputies-ambushed-in-compton-shooting/6420532/

A small crowd, including some apparent demonstrators, gathered near the hospital in Lynwood where the deputies were transported. Witnesses say members in the group were chanting anti-law enforcement slogans and at one point tried to get inside the hospital.

[blm]

20. Horseshit. Kid is wearing GOP campaign mask for Joe Collins.

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This whole scene is a set up by Trump camp.

Want to bet Trump appears with Joe Collins soon?

[LisaL]

27. The kid in a mask is not the protester.

He is a member of the Church who came to pray for the officers per the video.

[blm]

38. I saw that. Point being that there were Rightwing politicos there

Johnnyonthespot where supposedly ‘left’ protestors are calling for the deaths of officers hospitalized.

Wake up and smell the horseshit....this is exactly how the GOP rolls.

[npk]

47. Yep and look who is pushing this crap, Breitbart

The GOP is getting desperate because they know not only are they going to lose the white house, but they are also going to lose the Senate as well.

[ripcord]

75. All the major news outlets in LA are carrying this

Many of the nationwide news sources are also talking about the protest outside the hospital.

[npk]

77. Never said that there were not a "handful" of protesters outside, but...

Breitbart and several other right wing rags have tried to push the idea that protesters were violently trying to break in to the ER and were blocking ambulances from getting to the hospital, and actual real news outlets have proven that to be complete bullshit.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/compton-police-shooting-everything-know-162039234.html

Sheriff Villanueva called the handful of people heckling officers who guarded the outside of the hospital an “unlawful assembly of a group of protesters” who are "blocking the hospital emergency entrance and exits”. Journalists’ video from the scene does not appear to show evidence that the entrance and exits were blocked.

And Villanueva is a lying piece of shit. A small number of people heckling officers and one right wing plant shouting "we hope they die" is not even close to what the actual evidence shows and what was being distorted and fabricated by the likes of Breitbart earlier was nothing but another said attempt to discredit BLM.

[snowybirdie]

5. This looks phony

Fits right into the rightie scenario of those awful protesters.

[Klaralven]

9. Manhunt underway for shooter after 2 deputies ambushed in Los Angeles

Both were hospitalized in critical condition at St. Francis Medical Center. Villanueva's press conference at the hospital a few hours later drew more protests.

The sheriff's department tweeted: "To the protesters blocking the entrance & exit of the HOSPITAL EMERGENCY ROOM yelling 'We hope they die' referring to 2 LA Sheriff's ambushed today in #Compton: DO NOT BLOCK EMERGENCY ENTRIES & EXITS TO THE HOSPITAL. People's lives are at stake when ambulances can't get through."

Deputies issued a dispersal order for the "unlawful assembly" of the protesters for blocking the hospital's emergency entrance and exits, the sheriff's department said. Two people were arrested, including someone later determined to be a member of the media.

"A male adult protester refused to comply and cooperate," the department said in a statement. "During his arrest, a struggle ensued at which time a female adult ran towards the deputies, ignored repeated commands to stay back as they struggled with the male and interfered with the arrest."

The woman, later identified as a member of the press, did not identify herself as a member of the media and later said she did not have proper press credentials, the statement said.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/09/13/los-angeles-county-deputies-shot-manhunt-underway-hospital-protest/5784460002/

Link to tweet

[LisaL]

14. I think if they find the identity of the shooter will be extremely shocking.

The individual looks to be about as tall as the car. Which means either a very short individual or a very young individual.

[hardluck]

21. Camera had a fisheye lens

So the height and weight of the shooter are distorted.

[LisaL]

22. When the shooter is approaching the car, he/she is the same height as the car.

Is distortion only going to affect the height of the shooter when the shooter is right next to the car, and not the height of the car? Unless the car is very tall?

[hardluck]

33. Agreed in part

He’s the height of the car as he approaches. It’s a Ford Explorer-roughly 5’9” -5’11” tall. The shooter rapidly gets smaller when he runs away where his height is distorted by the camera.

[LisaL]

34. The car is that tall?

It doesn't look like a van?

[hardluck]

35. SUV

Standard police vehicle out here ever since the CHP moved to them.

[jmowreader]

52. According to Ford, Explorers are 70 inches tall

Based on that, I estimate the shooter at 5'7". The average height for a male in the US is 5'9" so the gunman is a slightly-short normal (or as normal as someone who goes around shooting cops for no reason can be) male.

[LisaL]

63. How sure are they that the shooter is a male?

He (or she) actually looks to be a bit shorter than a car. 5' 6"?

[rollin74]

73. one of the deputies who was shot

gave a statement to investigators before being taken to surgery

said shooter was a male

[Disaffected]

80. From the perp's apparent size

and, his/her manner of walking & running, it looks to me like a kid in early teens at most.

[LisaL]

84. Shooter is described as 28-30 years old black male.

So not a kid.

[Disaffected]

87. OK,

just goes to show you how unreliable "eyewitness" accounts can be (referring to myself).

[Hoyt]

10. Hope the two police officers recover.

[rockfordfile]

28. I agree

[grantcart]

54. Absolutely and the shooter is caught

[WhiskeyGrinder]

13. I didn't realize that less than 10 people constitues "crowds." Interesting!

[George II]

50. That's equal to two of trump's TikToc rallies.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

15. Where is evidence that 'protesters tried to break in or block the entrance'?

Newsweek has proven to be unreliable and slanted toward the right.

[blm]

16. Horseshit. This follows Pence lie blaming left for Boogaloo murders of officers.

FOX and Trump campaign have attached the violence and murders of law enforcement officers by Rightwingers to the protests of the left. No way would real left protestors of police brutality be protesting outside the hospital calling for the deaths of officers. This is a campaign ploy.

Bush Sr had provocateurs burning flags in cities his campaign was heading to. Trump’s camp is paying for hits on officers.

Pence, in his convention speech deliberately linked the murders of law enforcement officers by Rightwing Boogaloo Bois to the left. This is how depraved their campaign is. They are monsters.

[ElementaryPenguin]

19. Ridiculously misleading headline!!!!

[greenjar_01]

24. Wow! Three in one thread

Fabulous.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

26. Good catch

[LanternWaste]

29. Maybe the social unrest was caused by a sign...

that read No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service.

(since we're merely pointing fingers rather than addressing the actual topic, you see)

[rockfordfile]

30. I wouldn't be surprised if it were staged by right-wingers

[mn9driver]

31. My first thought as well...

[BannonsLiver]

39. You're not alone

[npk]

46. Fucking Breitbart is pushing this bullshit

That's pretty much all any reasonable person needs to know. Don't believe a word if it's being pushed by garbage like that.

[treestar]

58. how would they know to go there?

There are police haters out there. I see it here at times.

[Blue_true]

70. This is what I know as a Black person.

Black people don’t have a history of revenge shootings of police officers after a Black person is shot dead. Second, the person that shot the police officers sought them out and had a plan, typically when a Black person shoot a police officer, it is a hardened criminal trying to evade capture. Third, Black people don’t have a propensity to gloat about police officers being shot, because they know that the heat will first be turned on them as police forces search for the shooter.

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if the shooter is found to be a white supremacists wearing black face, as ridiculous as that may sound to you, as a Black person, I saw things in that shooting video that make me suspicious.

[treestar]

88. That's an awful lot of generalization about black people

So far, do we even know what the shooter is?

A black man killed 5 white officers in Dallas once.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police_officers

Black people can do no wrong, ever, is simply not true. Just as untrue and the police always being in the wrong.

[Blue_true]

69. It wouldn't surprise me if the shooter is a right winger.

Black people typically don’t try to smoke police officers to make a point about police racial injustices. Maybe a really hardened criminal would, but those types don’t seek out police officers to shoot them like the shooter did.

[2naSalit]

32. They seem to have...

A whole bunch of twitter helpers, far more than this "crowd" contains.

Beware of bullshit on the intertubes, it's that time in the campaign where everything requires research and critical thinking. Quick response is not as good as informed conclusions.

[Demsrule86]

36. I believe nothing that comes out of Newsweek.

[crickets]

37. Videos

I hear "I hope they die" once. There is one man repeating something in the beginning that I cannot make out. The rest is ugly trash talk, but no real chanting.

Link to tweet

Here are protesters NOT chanting #WeHopeTheyDie.
I heard one guy say "I hope they die." I think that's effed up BUT it's one guy & it sounds like the 'huge' group of protesters is 5 guys razzing the police AWAY form the entrance they supposedly blocked.

Link to tweet

Here is another one. Same guys. I heard, "Suck my dick," and "I hope they die," but not a group chanting We hope they die. Again, I don't like this behavior AT ALL but where is the proof the sheriff stated stated they were chanting that?

The last tweet links to a long series of videos.

[blm]

40. This is a provocateur not a protestor.

Check his bank accounts.

[crickets]

43. I tend to agree. It does seem staged. nt

[superpatriotman]

42. "Oink oink" "Fuck tha po-lice" "You next"

“Deez pigs” “I hope he die”

This is not make believe. This is despicable.

If you are with these people you are no friend of mine.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

57. Nobody In Their Right Mind Supports Murder Or Attempted Murder Of Anybody

Presumably, everybody here is in their right mind so they don't need the admonition.

[Sunsky]

64. I'm trying to figure who the message is for

Because I've seen nobody here. Zero, supporting those people. The issue seems to be, who are these people? I don't believe these are "protesters". I believe these are provocateurs who camouflage as protesters to paint the righteous movement in a bad light. How many examples of this do we need before we stop jumping to believe everyone who claims to be a protester?

[npk]

48. It's sad to see so many posters on DU being fooled

Breitbart has got shit. They and the pathetic LACS are pushing this about protesters trying to break into the ER and BLM are chanting "I hope they die..." The only evidence they have is one person, a GOP provocateur, yelling at a staged scene. Wow they are really getting desperate.

[bluestarone]

51. I 100% DO NOT believe these are our people.

Another RW. attack! That's exactly what it is!!

[nsd]

55. I agree that they're not "our" people.

But the universe of people who are not "ours" includes more than just right-wingers. There are people on the far left -- or who really just enjoy violence and discord without political context -- that we also have nothing to do with.

[Blue_true]

72. There is no case of an antifa type person ambushing police officers.

There are several cases of boogaloo bois ambushing police officers.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

59. It is grossly disrespectful to us to suggest ...

It is grossly disrespectful to us to suggest we would countenance murder or attempted murder of anybody. Some of the responses in this thread, not yours of course, depress me.

[Blue_true]

74. What is wrong with the sentiment "not ours"?

The poster seemed to be making the simple point that the protest at the hospital is out of character for BLM protest people.

I am even suspicious of the shooting itself. Not that it didn’t happen. It is just the circumstances don’t seem right from the perspective of the shooter.

[tblue37]

60. That's just idiotic. nt

[roamer65]

71. I don't believe it.

Sounds like Russian agitprop.

[MustLoveBeagles]

76. Something is very off about this

Of course there's the possibility that a left winger did this but my bullshit detector is pinging. Is there any video or photographic evidence that this hospital protest actually happened as described in the article?

[tenderfoot]

78. Not sure but there's plenty of evidence that journalists have been arrested for documenting police..

activity.

Link to tweet

[MustLoveBeagles]

82. There's no excuse for that

trump has given permission for this awful behavior.

[treestar]

89. We're engaging in confirmation bias willfully here

The right does that, but when it comes to police, it seems plenty of us on the left can do it, too.

[Maru Kitteh]

79. Oh look - IT'S YOU AGAIN.

I hope you get the attention you deserve.

[Dial H For Hero]

81. It's ME AGAIN!

[yardwork]

83. LA Sheriffs Department gang initiations?! Killing teens?

What's going on at the LASD?

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2020/08/31/whistleblower--deputy-killed-teen-to-join-department-s--gang--