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"The Economist went to a construction site in Ohio, a key swing state - and this is what they found" (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2020 OP
Ohio rso Sep 2020 #1
Uneducated white males is his base. LisaL Sep 2020 #3
yowza..I don't want what they're drinking.. stillcool Sep 2020 #2
From the sound of it DFW Sep 2020 #7
JFC CON A CRUTCH!!!!!!!!!!! COLGATE4 Sep 2020 #4
Those fuckers actually believe 6 inches equals a foot. Solly Mack Sep 2020 #5
Yeah, it's not like it's a Subway sandwich or something. 😂 TheBlackAdder Sep 2020 #40
Oh, now. Solly Mack Sep 2020 #41
well that's interesting In It to Win It Sep 2020 #6
Reducing national debt??? are you kidding me? Claustrum Sep 2020 #8
😜. Sure. Right. He fixed health care. National debt down? Firestorm49 Sep 2020 #9
Those people in that piece sound like idiots. rockfordfile Sep 2020 #10
It's not just a sound. How they're able to measure and cut and nail without killing themselves is bullimiami Sep 2020 #31
And their vote counts the same as yours superpatriotman Sep 2020 #11
Republicans have never been in favor of public education. CrispyQ Sep 2020 #12
They talk a lot about "liberal colleges or universities" Claustrum Sep 2020 #36
The are the impressionable suckers he loves to inculcate with repeated lies. BSdetect Sep 2020 #13
Glad I left there a long time ago. I guess if all you do is watch Fox captain queeg Sep 2020 #14
And some people never leave the USA to live elsewhere... Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2020 #30
Imagine still doing bubba safaris 4 years in BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #15
I once heard that... 2naSalit Sep 2020 #16
Every single one of those things is the exact opposite of what they said CanonRay Sep 2020 #17
+1000 Celerity Sep 2020 #22
Truth -- "trump is a racist/bigot and ignorant white wingers appreciate his efforts." Hoyt Sep 2020 #18
Catering to the utterly brain dead imbeciles apparently works well for The Cretin. Guilded Lilly Sep 2020 #19
It's a red state...it isn't a swing state!! let's ask in the swing states Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #20
It is interesting to see... Newest Reality Sep 2020 #21
Tariffs are paid by American consumers!! Roland99 Sep 2020 #23
I know those types of "boys" Botany Sep 2020 #24
Kick dalton99a Sep 2020 #25
This is silly. What else would we expect from a construction site... brush Sep 2020 #26
The media is now selling that it is still a horse race now Botany Sep 2020 #32
Not surprising. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2020 #27
We are doomed. SoonerPride Sep 2020 #28
We're not doomed in the least because most people aren't as mis-informed Claustrum Sep 2020 #38
That has to be an excerpt from The Onion, or the Borowitz Report Martin Eden Sep 2020 #29
unfortunately, they are. I'm surrounded by them. OhioBlue Sep 2020 #33
Let me guess: Martin Eden Sep 2020 #34
yep, and facebook memes OhioBlue Sep 2020 #35
He got healthcare done?! JFC. There are no words. yardwork Sep 2020 #37
Just plain stupid. lindysalsagal Sep 2020 #39

DFW

(54,369 posts)
7. From the sound of it
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:13 PM
Sep 2020

I'd say undiluted LSD.

They must frequent bars that have signs out front saying, "Reality not permitted in this establishment."

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
4. JFC CON A CRUTCH!!!!!!!!!!!
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:11 PM
Sep 2020

Proof positive that you can't fix stupid, you can't reason with stupid, you can't argue with stupid and you can't trust stupid.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
41. Oh, now.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 09:40 PM
Sep 2020

Can't trust a construction worker that doesn't know the difference between 6 inches and a foot.

But, yeah.

bullimiami

(13,086 posts)
31. It's not just a sound. How they're able to measure and cut and nail without killing themselves is
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 03:48 PM
Sep 2020

one of the deep mysteries.

CrispyQ

(36,461 posts)
12. Republicans have never been in favor of public education.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:22 PM
Sep 2020
"As people do better, they start voting like Republicans - unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing." ~Karl Rove

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
36. They talk a lot about "liberal colleges or universities"
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 05:57 PM
Sep 2020

but they can never pinpoint which part of the education is "liberal". I learned reading comprehension, critical thinking, problem solving, math, physics, etc. but I have never taken a class that directly taught me "liberal ideology".

captain queeg

(10,186 posts)
14. Glad I left there a long time ago. I guess if all you do is watch Fox
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:25 PM
Sep 2020

Proud of their own stupidity. I wonder if there is a correlation with trumpers and those who have never lived anywhere else. Society is much more mobile but there are still many people who stay where they grew up, maybe an occasional vacation to some other state or even country.

BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
15. Imagine still doing bubba safaris 4 years in
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:27 PM
Sep 2020

And notice how they never go out and find Dem friendly demo groups? It’s always white men and their grievances that are sought out.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
21. It is interesting to see...
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:38 PM
Sep 2020

It is interesting to see construction workers who don't know about or understanding the manufacture of their consent.

They are buying into a product designed just for them, but it does not need to correspond at all with reality at all and their cult provides immunity to it.

That product is a reflection and extension of their own ignorance and malleability because Trump provides a caricature character that they can easily identify with. When you look at that Trump, you are seeing who and what these people are at their core and somebody is selling them back to themselves and the funny part is they may have no actual idea about what is going on in that exchange.

Trump's Chumps!

Botany

(70,501 posts)
24. I know those types of "boys"
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:40 PM
Sep 2020

White, racist, high school grad (maybe), listen to Rush & Fox, 85% of them are concealed carry
or want to be, and they like the fact that Trump is an asshole because he is not politically correct.

Although they do not reflect all of the state .... but at a construction site "those types" tend to be
concentrated.

And many of them really believe that antifa exists and that the blacks want to take over.
Corvid 19 will take many of them out because they don't believe in masks.

dalton99a

(81,472 posts)
25. Kick
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:42 PM
Sep 2020
The construction workers’ erroneous takes on Mr Trump’s record (his administration in fact turbocharged the debt even before covid-19 struck, has reduced health-care coverage and has a lot of wall left to build) offered a clue to how he has exerted such control over his party. Notwithstanding the strength of the pre-covid economy, the loyalty of Mr Trump’s voters is not — or not mostly — a response to his policies or record. Political scientists — on the left and right — long ago discovered that most voters are flexible on such matters. They choose leaders who seem to reflect their values, rearrange their policy priorities accordingly and, in a hyperpolarised environment, also to an extent their critical judgments.

Thus the alacrity with which Republicans ditched free trade and fiscal conservatism. Thus, too, the transformation in how they viewed the economy within days of the 2016 election. Mr Trump’s subsequent success in binding in his supporters ever tighter owes to the relentlessness with which he has highlighted, again and again, the values they have entrusted him with and the threats to those values, real and imagined, he claims his critics present.

Unlike any predecessor, he has never stopped campaigning. He held a hundred rallies as president — not including presidential set pieces, such as state-of-the-union addresses, that he treats as purely political events — before his re-election campaign began. He has decried even conservative critics as enemies of what he and his voters stand for. The effect of this constant grandstanding is to keep challenging his supporters to recommit themselves to him, publicly or privately, and in the process harden their loyalty.

brush

(53,776 posts)
26. This is silly. What else would we expect from a construction site...
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:47 PM
Sep 2020

full of non-college white males? Why don't they go to suburbs full of white women and get their responses?

Botany

(70,501 posts)
32. The media is now selling that it is still a horse race now
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 04:26 PM
Sep 2020

and yes go to a construction site full of uneducated white men in OH ... or anywhere else
and you will get Trump supporters. Ohio has become Alabama north but given a clean vote
here Trump will get crushed.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
27. Not surprising.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:55 PM
Sep 2020

The biggest Republican / Trump supporters are often found among semi-skilled white workers who had to make the 'monumental sacrifice' of a few weeks or months for training.

Like the lengthy training to become a cop.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
28. We are doomed.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 03:06 PM
Sep 2020

These statements are 100% wrong in entirety

And pointing out how they are wrong the person would t believe facts

Brainwashed morons.

We

Are

Doomed.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
38. We're not doomed in the least because most people aren't as mis-informed
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 06:02 PM
Sep 2020

The problem is that the media decided to continue to make uneducated white men or college educated white men their focus while ignoring the other majority of people. They love their "silent Trump voter" narrative.

Martin Eden

(12,864 posts)
29. That has to be an excerpt from The Onion, or the Borowitz Report
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 03:14 PM
Sep 2020

Surely no one is stupid enough to believe every single one of those falsehoods.

OhioBlue

(5,126 posts)
35. yep, and facebook memes
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 05:40 PM
Sep 2020

The other day, I saw a meme with a clip of a post from Breitbart about a tweet from an abortion doctor. It was shared many times as actual news.

lindysalsagal

(20,680 posts)
39. Just plain stupid.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 07:11 PM
Sep 2020

The founders knew we needed a smart electorate to operate democracy. This is not sustainable.

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