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phylny

(8,377 posts)
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:17 PM Sep 2020

Goodness gracious, DU! Can we stop with doom and gloom?

Latinos in Florida. Construction workers in Ohio. Have I mentioned Latinos in Florida yet? Again?

Vote securely, support Democrats, give money and time when you can.

We will not change the minds of the Trumpublicans. Focus on Independents and new voters. I know many people who have changed their minds and will vote for Biden and I’ll bet you do, too.



Focus!

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Goodness gracious, DU! Can we stop with doom and gloom? (Original Post) phylny Sep 2020 OP
Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #1
YOU TOO!!! qwlauren35 Sep 2020 #21
K&R Let's take our cue from Biden MaryMagdaline Sep 2020 #2
Valid cilla4progress Sep 2020 #4
I've never attacked anyone's post here, nor would I MaryMagdaline Sep 2020 #7
My bad, I'm sorry ... cilla4progress Sep 2020 #15
Thanks MaryMagdaline Sep 2020 #20
No problem. cilla4progress Sep 2020 #22
Me too! You all keep me sane! MaryMagdaline Sep 2020 #23
... cilla4progress Sep 2020 #27
Trump has to have someone... Biden has women, educated, POC, vets heading his way, and who else? LizBeth Sep 2020 #3
DU has a trash thread feature. I use it often, as well as the ignore feature. demmiblue Sep 2020 #5
Not a bad idea. phylny Sep 2020 #6
While it is nice to encourage, it is also ok for people to post news items... demmiblue Sep 2020 #9
yup. they are here. ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #12
Nice... calling your fellow DUers useful idiots. demmiblue Sep 2020 #13
well, i calls em like i sees em. ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #14
Aww... lol! demmiblue Sep 2020 #16
Agree! Instead of fretting..get busy, do phone banking, write letters, volunteer at your hdqrts Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #8
Being sad- even desperate and panicky - cilla4progress Sep 2020 #18
Your post is exactly the right message. Do not dwell on trumpers... brush Sep 2020 #10
That we might learn from our past. OneBro Sep 2020 #11
yeahbut. ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #17
Yes, and Biden too might get 3M more votes. OneBro Sep 2020 #24
well.mr darwin called. ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #26
yeahbut. ihas2stinkyfeet Sep 2020 #19
But the same "election concern trolls" were here for Obama too crimycarny Sep 2020 #28
I'm with ya! OneBro Sep 2020 #29
So far I don't know anyone who is complacent electric_blue68 Sep 2020 #37
Me either crimycarny Sep 2020 #40
I guess I fo from ... electric_blue68 Sep 2020 #42
Concern Trolls want Democrats to Lose. It might be different if they actually JI7 Sep 2020 #36
I believe it's absolutely intentional. writes3000 Sep 2020 #25
This is the RUSSIAN DISTRACTION MACHINE. Get a plan and VOTE! NightWatcher Sep 2020 #30
Amen!!!!! McKim Sep 2020 #31
We're going to win, but we need to keep up the pressure, doom and gloom detracts from the effort. marble falls Sep 2020 #32
I agree... The concern trolls are out in force.(nt) ehrnst Sep 2020 #33
Some people need to fret or have drama. EllieBC Sep 2020 #34
You get to recognize those OPs and posters you just know are.... Spazito Sep 2020 #35
Keep Working Aepps22 Sep 2020 #38
LOL! Willto Sep 2020 #39
Get rid of Florida but there's no problem with the Hispanic vote in Florida Awsi Dooger Sep 2020 #41
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
1. Thank YOU!
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:20 PM
Sep 2020

This has been one of the most depressing days on DU ever! I'm taking a break to watch some funny movies. I can't deal with this negativity.

qwlauren35

(6,145 posts)
21. YOU TOO!!!
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:51 PM
Sep 2020

I watched Princess and the Frog.

And felt SO MUCH BETTER!

I didn't realize it was because DU was depressing the shit out of me.

I just knew that I needed to shut it down.

MaryMagdaline

(6,853 posts)
2. K&R Let's take our cue from Biden
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:21 PM
Sep 2020

We’re ahead right now and we’re pouring it on. When speaking to anyone, let’s use “pouring it on”and “running up the score.” Everyone hates losers, right wingers even more so. Let them know NOW their guy is a loser and they need to bow out now before they are embarrassed.

cilla4progress

(24,724 posts)
4. Valid
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:25 PM
Sep 2020

observation.

But, might I also gently suggest, that we support, and yes, "allow" those who need to come here to vent their fears and grief to do so.

If you don't want to read their posts, you can scroll by.

MaryMagdaline

(6,853 posts)
7. I've never attacked anyone's post here, nor would I
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:31 PM
Sep 2020

I am supporting THIS post because it expresses my point of view.

Why did you skip over response Number One and go to me?????

cilla4progress

(24,724 posts)
15. My bad, I'm sorry ...
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:47 PM
Sep 2020

I combined my responses.

I just thought you had a very valid observation about Rs not wanting to stick with a loser.

phylny

(8,377 posts)
6. Not a bad idea.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:29 PM
Sep 2020

Last edited Sun Sep 13, 2020, 06:25 PM - Edit history (1)

I’m just trying to 1) encourage 2) steer away from our Russian “guests.”

demmiblue

(36,835 posts)
9. While it is nice to encourage, it is also ok for people to post news items...
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:33 PM
Sep 2020

and express their feelings. I'm sure that that vast majority of people posting about these issues are not Russian or republican trolls.

cilla4progress

(24,724 posts)
18. Being sad- even desperate and panicky -
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:49 PM
Sep 2020

is not necessarily fretting, and is not mutually exclusive of doing stuff.

brush

(53,759 posts)
10. Your post is exactly the right message. Do not dwell on trumpers...
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:36 PM
Sep 2020

they are not our target audience. Don't waste time trying to convert them. Indies and those who haven't voted before are who we should go after.

 

ihas2stinkyfeet

(1,400 posts)
17. yeahbut.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:49 PM
Sep 2020

she got 3M more votes.
the polls were right. the vote counters cheated.

i'm still worried about the vote counters, but i see the election protection that is being stood up all over the country.
so, y

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
24. Yes, and Biden too might get 3M more votes.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 03:11 PM
Sep 2020

In this bizarro world where Trump is President of the United States and STILL commands 80+ percent of the white, evangelical, dependable voters; where right-wingers control the Senate and most of our appellate courts (which have systematically gutted the Voting Rights Act), it is understandable that some of our members are voicing their fears, concerns, and nightmares about the future of our country.

I have no idea whether doom and gloom helps to suppress the vote because voters feel no hope and thus stay home, or that it somehow inspires people to get off their asses and vote because they know their one vote can make a difference. I suspect, though, that calling people "concern trolls" or "worry warts" ultimately does little to help the Democratic cause.

 

ihas2stinkyfeet

(1,400 posts)
26. well.mr darwin called.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 03:33 PM
Sep 2020

those voters are dropping like flies.

but if i run into a single voter that didnt show up cuz of this sort of crap, i.will.be.pissed.

 

ihas2stinkyfeet

(1,400 posts)
19. yeahbut.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 02:49 PM
Sep 2020

she got 3M more votes.
the polls were right. the vote counters cheated.

i'm still worried about the vote counters, but i see the election protection that is being stood up all over the country.
so, yeah. not a debbie downer.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
28. But the same "election concern trolls" were here for Obama too
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 03:49 PM
Sep 2020

Same hand wringing and worrying posts were here during Obama election 2008 and 2012, yet the outcome was different. It’s like living in CA and predicting an earthquake every single day—eventually you will be right.

I’m stating all this from the standpoint of a professional hand wringer. I’m TERRIFIED of another Trump Presidency so when I read too many doom and gloom threads I can get myself in a state of almost sheer panic. That is why I so appreciate those who write the “we can do this” threads! It doesn’t make me complacent—which I think is the fear of some—it just makes me less insane.

Not saying people aren’t allowed to post negative or doom and gloom threads, it’s a discussion forum after all, but I feel I need to give a major shout out to the positive posters. Those posts energize me, too much negativity drains me. I need all the energy I have to fight for a Biden win.


OneBro

(1,159 posts)
29. I'm with ya!
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 04:10 PM
Sep 2020

Maybe the true enemy is complacency. Whether due to elation when our candidate is ahead, or doom and gloom when our candidate is behind, let us never sit on our laurels til the race is done.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
40. Me either
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 03:34 AM
Sep 2020

But it seems like every positive post will inevitably have some commenting about “we can’t be complacent!” Or “too early to celebrate!”... Having hope doesn’t equate to complacency, but so many seem to feel the need to damp down any enthusiasm out of the mistaken view that it means people will assume Biden has it “in the bag”. After 2016 no one is assuming anything!

electric_blue68

(14,852 posts)
42. I guess I fo from ...
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 04:22 AM
Sep 2020

doomy bc of Russia, convid, and potential vile drumphists trying to scare off voters in key areas who show up instead of mailing in their vote ( I checked and know I'm registered. An apt building aquaintence and I both got knocked off in the NYS primary decades ago at the same time). I have to get my absentee ballot.

And then I'm nuetral, and sometimes positive when I hear good news. So that's where I'm at currently.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
36. Concern Trolls want Democrats to Lose. It might be different if they actually
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 06:05 PM
Sep 2020

offered ideas on how to help get out votes .

When they bring up 2016 they fail to bring up things like Comey and the Russian attacks on the election.

writes3000

(4,734 posts)
25. I believe it's absolutely intentional.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 03:19 PM
Sep 2020

I can consistently predict who posts the doom and gloom stuff.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
30. This is the RUSSIAN DISTRACTION MACHINE. Get a plan and VOTE!
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 04:13 PM
Sep 2020

Turn off your social media and respond to all "concern" posts with a simple "get a plan and Vote".

McKim

(2,412 posts)
31. Amen!!!!!
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 04:39 PM
Sep 2020

Amen!!!!! Just stop it. Stop reacting to their garbage headline grabbing structure messages!
They are loud because they are a losing minority and trying to look bigger than they are.
Do something to get out the vote or help realize BLM goals and stop feeding them!

EllieBC

(3,010 posts)
34. Some people need to fret or have drama.
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 05:13 PM
Sep 2020

They can’t ever see the good or positive in anything. Their entire lives are devoted to doom and gloom.

Ignore them.

Spazito

(50,253 posts)
35. You get to recognize those OPs and posters you just know are....
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 06:00 PM
Sep 2020

full of doom and gloom, all is lost, etc. etc. etc. I scroll past those OPs without opening them and, as a result, my reading has become a lot more on the realistically positive side.

Aepps22

(166 posts)
38. Keep Working
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 11:14 PM
Sep 2020

I understand that some people are still in shock over 2016 but this is a new year and a new election. I am all for being real about our prospects, but things look very good for us right now. I encourage everyone that is nervous to donate to our candidates and volunteer. We are way more motivated than we were in 2016 and the Deplorables know it which is why they want to stop us from voting. Don't get discouraged.

Willto

(292 posts)
39. LOL!
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 12:25 AM
Sep 2020

I got to agree with the OP. It does seem that even if 4 polls came out that all had Biden up 70 to 30 on Trump someone would dig into the specifics of one of the polls and post a thread titled "Biden Under Performing with Lithuanian Barbers Who Have Less Than 3 Kids"

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
41. Get rid of Florida but there's no problem with the Hispanic vote in Florida
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 04:01 AM
Sep 2020

That seems to be the acceptable combination

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