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NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:35 AM Sep 2020

****Breaking ABC/WP poll: Biden leads by 16 in MN and 6 in WI (LV)***

https://www.langerresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/1216a12020StateBattlegrounds-WIMN.pdf

Trump won Wisconsin in 2016 by fewer than 23,000 votes out of 3 million cast. Today Biden has 52 percent support among likely voters there, with 46 percent for Trump – not a statistically significant difference given the survey’s margin of sampling error. In Minnesota, by contrast, Biden holds a clear advantage, 57-41 percent, in what’s been a hoped-for Trump pickup after his narrow 45,000-vote loss four years ago.


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****Breaking ABC/WP poll: Biden leads by 16 in MN and 6 in WI (LV)*** (Original Post) NewsCenter28 Sep 2020 OP
These Minnesota polls are all over the place greenjar_01 Sep 2020 #1
I like 16 better than 4 soothsayer Sep 2020 #7
These poll numbers are all over the place calguy Sep 2020 #2
Yep having the lead is always good! NewsCenter28 Sep 2020 #4
Political acceleration...Beautiful. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2020 #3
Lol Loki Liesmith Sep 2020 #5
WI poll has MOE of 4.5%, so Biden's lead not statistically significant Fiendish Thingy Sep 2020 #6
Not in and of itself... regnaD kciN Sep 2020 #12
Yes, the trend/avg. is more important than a single poll nt Fiendish Thingy Sep 2020 #19
Steady On Joe Biden & Kamala Harris! Cha Sep 2020 #8
Trump ain't gonna win back support, he's going BootinUp Sep 2020 #9
My God! only 2% undecided katusha Sep 2020 #10
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #11
You would think that, but... regnaD kciN Sep 2020 #13
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2020 #18
Just tell Minnesotans that under Trump winters will get warmer ending ice fishing forever Submariner Sep 2020 #14
K&r Demovictory9 Sep 2020 #15
I just hope that 57% is close to correct Norbert Sep 2020 #16
Joe is taking down names and kicking ass. nt oasis Sep 2020 #17
PA, WI, MN and MI are the whole ball game Skraxx Sep 2020 #20
Great news and two other polls have him up around 10 points in Wisconsin. Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #21
 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
1. These Minnesota polls are all over the place
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:37 AM
Sep 2020

Two polls taken at more or less the same time, one has Biden +4, the other +16?

That's pretty close to useless.

calguy

(5,306 posts)
2. These poll numbers are all over the place
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 12:37 AM
Sep 2020

The only thing consistent is Joe is always leading. And that's very, very good!

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
12. Not in and of itself...
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 02:02 AM
Sep 2020

...but every poll of WI in recent months has shown Biden with a lead in the mid (or higher)-single-digits. The more you get with similar results, the less likely they will all just happen to be off in the exact same direction. So, if you have a single poll with a 6% margin and an MOE of 4.5%, it's possible it might be off enough to make the eventual winner appear to be trailing, but, if you get ten polls from different organizations, each showing a 6% margin, it's pretty likely that the real margin is quite close to that.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
13. You would think that, but...
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 02:03 AM
Sep 2020

...it's not unheard of for people who have "made up their mind" six or more weeks before the election to "flip" to the other candidate. Still, it means that 45 has to manage to flip such voters, as opposed to just grabbing most of a large pool of undecideds.

Submariner

(12,504 posts)
14. Just tell Minnesotans that under Trump winters will get warmer ending ice fishing forever
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 02:47 AM
Sep 2020

but Biden will implement climate change measures to preserve ice fishing for that crazy Lake Wobegon state, and Joe will sweep the election.

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