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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe will never socialize again.
Until 100% take wearing masks and social distancing reality....for 6 months.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)NY beat back Covid like wild in just 100 days. Wouldnt fix everything but it sure would help.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,339 posts)We have the right to gather in big fraternity and sorority parties on campus, big flotillas of recreational boats, block parties, stadiums, especially those of us who are young - we will be ok, and, "bye, boomer".
Phoenix61
(17,003 posts)would just do those two things.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)What really sets me off is that theres another coronavirus waiting in the wings .........
Trump did away with ALL the safeguards that Obama left in place, and including the team of professionals in Wuhan who were working with Chinese scientists to prevent future outbreaks ..... we now wont get a headsup if there is another coronavirus outbreak, no one to warn us.
Obama even went further and left the next administration BINDERS full of guidelines and information on how to handle coronavirus outbreaks. The Trump crew never even looked through them, they were found thrown in wastebaskets.
Trump has fucked us up royally.
Merlot
(9,696 posts)Some cultures have adopted them.
Even if it only saved me from the flu, I would wear one.
Merlot
(9,696 posts)Prior to the pandemic I never would have thought of getting a mask for the smoke. People in the hardest hit areas are wearing them inside their homes as well.
We are thinking (and donating) to our fellow California citizens in this horrible disaster. Masks in the home? Who would have ever thought it?
OAITW r.2.0
(24,467 posts)Hang in there. If not, fight like hell.
BootinUp
(47,143 posts)Going to cost.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,853 posts)It's just that it's going to be a whole lot longer than people think. Years. Many years.
Just keep in mind that nothing lasts forever.
Initech
(100,068 posts)It might take several years for travel and international travel to reach pre-COVID levels but we will get back to doing things we love sooner than "years".
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,853 posts)Pretend it's 1939, and you and I are planning a trip to Europe next year. We've both taken on second jobs to save the money for this trip and it's going to be wonderful! We'll go to Paris, London, Rome, Venice, maybe the French Riviera. We can hardly wait. Then September rolls around and WWII starts. Oh, fudge! Clearly we're not going to Europe next year, but maybe the war won't last very long and we can go in 1941. Heck, that will give us an extra year to save more money for the trip.
But the war lasts. And lasts. It doesn't finally end in Europe until May, 1945. The soonest we're going to take that long-postponed trip will be 1946. Maybe a year or two later. And when we finally get there, it will be a completely different Europe from the one we would have seen had we gone in 1939.
In a similar way, this pandemic is transforming a lot of things. If Biden is elected in November, and especially if Democrats gain seats in the House and have a majority in the Senate, that will begin the transformation of a lot of things in this country. It won't happen overnight, but we will eventually get some sort of universal health care. Maybe even a universal basic income. A lot of jobs will never come back. Other aspects of work will change. Schools may never be the same. And so on.
Depending on what you are thinking of when you say we will get back to doing things we love sooner than "years", I will respectfully disagree. Of course, even now a lot of people are going ahead and doing the things they love, such as going to bars and parties and not wearing masks.
One thing I used to do sometimes several times a week, was Geeks Who Drink. Loved it. Had a group of regulars I played with or competed against. There is an on-line version happening, which I participated in with a friend last week. It was enjoyable, but couldn't hold a candle to the real thing. Which isn't going to return for a long time because we won't be huddled in groups in a bar, whispering answers to each other before writing them down on the official quiz sheet.
Perhaps, if this country had shut down as thoroughly as China did back in the beginning, we could be mostly back to "normal". But we didn't do that, and even countries that did shut down better than we did, are having a resurgence of the virus. Even if you can only get this once, and if you survive you are immune forever, until there is truly a safe and effective vaccine, which will take longer than the optimists think, and it can be given to a very large number of people, there's no going back to things like Geeks Who Drink.
Keep in mind, that in the 1918 flu pandemic, there were already a lot of people out there who had at least some degree of immunity to that strain of flu. Especially older people, who'd been through a similar outbreak about 50 years earlier, which is why so few old people got it or died. This is a novel virus. To me what's so striking is the huge range of responses to it, ranging from being completely asymptomatic to dying. In between are varying degrees of being sick, some of which look like will result in life-long complications. Heck, one of the changes that may happen will be some sort of health care infrastructure dedicated to caring for those people.
Withywindle
(9,988 posts)Eventually.
I'll tell you, this time I've spent in semi-isolation has made me resolve to never take my friends for granted again. To fully appreciate the live music clubs I loved so much. The people-watching on public transit. My co-workers, even the annoying ones.
We will again, and I for one mean to live every minute of it to the fullest.
crickets
(25,969 posts)DarthDem
(5,255 posts)Bravo.
Initech
(100,068 posts)I definitely intend to go out again when it is safe to do so, and I will take full advantage - the festivals, the breweries, the bars, the concerts and sports, the nightlife that I've been missing all these months. It will come back and be better than ever, just like it did in the 1920s.
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)I say, as my sweet furry girl lies with her precious face in my lap.
ScratchCat
(1,988 posts)Because the pandemic is about to get worse. Biden will win. We are going to have to continue to close things again. This will piss off tens of millions even worse than last time. And then there will be a revolt caused by the Twittler. That is where we are headed. They'll tie "rigging the election" with the "covid hoax conspiracy" and life as we know it is done. And this is all because the GOP Senate would not remove a man for a clear violation of his oath to office and because the Democrat House wouldn't impeach on actual felonies.
Initech
(100,068 posts)That's a Trump and Fox News insult against us, please don't use it here.
brooklynite
(94,520 posts)You'll never get that absolute participation, so we'll never see you again?
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I feel for those who do socialize.. This would've killed my mother.
Doesn't seem to be affecting a few families on my block. Party across the street last weekend, and lots of company last night.