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kpete

(71,991 posts)
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 09:46 AM Sep 2020

Townhall: "He didn't answer anything," Tubiana told me afterward. "He was lying through his teeth."

Paul Tubiana of Bethlehem, PA was the first questioner. He asked: "Mr. President, I voted for you in 2016. I'm a conservative, pro-life and diabetic. I've had to dodge people who don't care about social distancing and wearing face masks. I thought you were doing a good job with the pandemic response until about May 1. Then you took your foot off the gas pedal. Why did you throw vulnerable people like me under the bus?"



I held my breath. Trump has never been challenged about his mishandling of the pandemic quite like that before. Trump's initial response: "Well, we really didn’t, Paul." And then he blamed China and promised that "we're within weeks of getting" a vaccine.



"He didn't answer anything," Tubiana told me afterward. "He was lying through his teeth."



Tubiana is like so many people: As the pandemic raged, "I was feeling scared, alone and powerless," he said. He said "there were failures of government on both sides of the aisle" last winter and spring, but he felt like Trump stopped providing leadership as the crisis continued from spring to summer. He said he thought Trump stuck to "canned responses" at the town hall.



LOTS MORE:
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Townhall: "He didn't answer anything," Tubiana told me afterward. "He was lying through his teeth." (Original Post) kpete Sep 2020 OP
Lies, Lies and more Lies. spanone Sep 2020 #1
he'll probably llashram Sep 2020 #2
Yup, He's A Self-Admitted "both-sider". jayfish Sep 2020 #19
I dunno. Once you decide somebody is "lying through their teeth," it's tough to pull that lever greenjar_01 Sep 2020 #22
Weeelllll.... jayfish Sep 2020 #23
I mean ordinary people, not this kind of dipshit greenjar_01 Sep 2020 #31
I just hope you are right llashram Sep 2020 #32
"He took his foot off the gas pedal"??? What color is the sky in cry baby Sep 2020 #3
It's the same color that tells his brain that 'there were failures on both sides of the isle'. Volaris Sep 2020 #16
Both sides of the aisle?... lame54 Sep 2020 #17
Clearly "her emails" spread teh kovid durablend Sep 2020 #33
Joe Biden is going to stick it to Trump during the debates... ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2020 #4
The moderator will have to make Trump shut up so Biden is able to answer without rurallib Sep 2020 #6
Biden should use the tRUMP line nykym Sep 2020 #12
One of the debate rules need to be a dead microphone when it's not your turn. SeattleVet Sep 2020 #24
Great idea rurallib Sep 2020 #28
I stopped at "both sides of the aisle" PSPS Sep 2020 #5
I too am sick of that bullshit tenderfoot Sep 2020 #9
Exactly edhopper Sep 2020 #10
You just know he's a magat cultist and is barely aware of what a pandemic is. BSdetect Sep 2020 #11
+1 LizBeth Sep 2020 #14
He lost me at that one. llmart Sep 2020 #20
Are you fucking kidding me? He thought the Con was handling the pandemic well until May? CrispyQ Sep 2020 #7
Yeah more like it started to personally effect that voter in May and suddenly it got very real. Statistical Sep 2020 #8
End of April, early May Trump had enough anti maskers out there causing problems for the Dem Govs LizBeth Sep 2020 #15
He was probably injecting bleach at the time.. AZ8theist Sep 2020 #13
If someone is puzzled, confused, and frightened, I want to feel sympathy for them. Aristus Sep 2020 #18
He'll vote for him anyway n/m RhodeIslandOne Sep 2020 #21
in other words mnmoderatedem Sep 2020 #25
I'm really seta1950 Sep 2020 #26
So we have a date when the questioner pulled his BootinUp Sep 2020 #27
Sorry, But Bullshit, Turbano, on "trump having Cha Sep 2020 #29
Oh yeah.. and Fuck that "both sides Bullshit".. you're Cha Sep 2020 #30

llashram

(6,265 posts)
2. he'll probably
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 09:49 AM
Sep 2020

vote for the orange menace anyway. Hope not but there is the herd mentality of his cult.

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
19. Yup, He's A Self-Admitted "both-sider".
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 01:11 PM
Sep 2020

"there were failures of government on both sides of the aisle"

I'm sure that went unchallenged too.

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
23. Weeelllll....
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 03:01 PM
Sep 2020

Hi


Donald Trump is a crazy, lying bigot, said ... his closest allies?

Then Sen. Ted Cruz says, “Whatever he does he accused everyone else of doing. The man cannot tell the truth but he combines it with being a narcissist. A narcissist at a level I don’t think this country’s ever seen.”

Cut to Sen. Rand Paul, saying, “My concern is that he would grab up that power and really treat the country as sort of his little bully fiefdom.”

Haley, Conway and Beck were critics
Then former South Carolina governor and ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, who’ll speak at the Republican convention this week says, “Donald Trump is everything I taught my children not to do in kindergarten.”

Sen. Marco Rubio says, “Donald Trump has been exploiting working Americans for forty years.”

Lindsey Graham again, “He’s a race-bating xenophobic religious bigot.”

Long-time senior White House advisor Kellyanne Conway says of Trump, “He says he’s for the little guy but he’s actually built a lot of his businesses on the backs of the little guy.”

Before he became Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo said, “Donald Trump said the other day that if he ‘told a soldier to commit a war crime he would go do it.’ ”

Conservative radio and TV host Glenn Beck says, “I don’t think Donald Trump has even read the constitution, knows what’s in the constitution.”


having posted that; I swear I self-deleted that post as several others made my observation much earlier.

cry baby

(6,682 posts)
3. "He took his foot off the gas pedal"??? What color is the sky in
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 09:50 AM
Sep 2020

his world?

Glad he saw the gasbag as he is last night. What took so fucking long?

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
16. It's the same color that tells his brain that 'there were failures on both sides of the isle'.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:44 AM
Sep 2020

No there fucking well were not. I'm sorry for his troubles, but WE WARNED THEM. He voted for trump anyway, because the cruelty WAS the point.

Now that cruelty has impacted him personally, and were supposed to feel all bad for him I suppose.
Hes welcome to be mad and hes welcome to vote for biden or stay home.

But that's about the extent of my empathy at this point.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,785 posts)
4. Joe Biden is going to stick it to Trump during the debates...
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 09:54 AM
Sep 2020

With that SEG of his and the TRUTH.

I will be watching Trump's body language. That will indicate to me that Trump is on the defensive , unprepared to challenge. The LIES will be flowing like a river that had its dam burst wide open. Then Joe will go in for the kill. He will be prepared.

rurallib

(62,415 posts)
6. The moderator will have to make Trump shut up so Biden is able to answer without
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 10:03 AM
Sep 2020

being shouted over and Gish galloped. I am not holding out a lot of hope hat will happen.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
24. One of the debate rules need to be a dead microphone when it's not your turn.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 03:18 PM
Sep 2020

The candidates have visible timers showing the time remaining. They need to know that as soon as the red light goes on, their microphone goes off. Don't allow him the mechanism that lets him talk over anyone.

edhopper

(33,579 posts)
10. Exactly
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 10:28 AM
Sep 2020

where did the Democrats fail. The $3 Trillion Heroes Act. Or Cuomo making NY safer than the rest of the country.

llmart

(15,539 posts)
20. He lost me at that one.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 01:18 PM
Sep 2020

What in the ever loving f*** were Democrats supposed to be doing? Did this idiot forget that we tried to remove him by impeachment but it was his party that was just okey doke with someone in charge who had zero experience?

The stupidity boggles my mind.

CrispyQ

(36,464 posts)
7. Are you fucking kidding me? He thought the Con was handling the pandemic well until May?
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 10:14 AM
Sep 2020

JFC, we're so fucked.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
8. Yeah more like it started to personally effect that voter in May and suddenly it got very real.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 10:24 AM
Sep 2020

Yeah Trump has been a dumpster fire from day one not just on COVID but on everything. Until May that "everything" wasn't hurting this Trump voter though.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
15. End of April, early May Trump had enough anti maskers out there causing problems for the Dem Govs
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:41 AM
Sep 2020

that were handling covid giving this man the security that he was feeling at the time. Trump had nothing to do with it, the Dem Govs were ignoring Trump doing what needed to be done.

Aristus

(66,352 posts)
18. If someone is puzzled, confused, and frightened, I want to feel sympathy for them.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:51 AM
Sep 2020

But if they say they voted for Trump in 2016, all I want to say to them is "What the hell did you think was going to happen when you voted for an abysmally incompetent, ignorant, hate-filled idiot!?!?"

seta1950

(932 posts)
26. I'm really
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 03:36 PM
Sep 2020

Tired of hearing , the failures of both sides , we should be talking about the gop’s failure to defend this country “against all enemies, foreign and domestic”.

BootinUp

(47,144 posts)
27. So we have a date when the questioner pulled his
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 03:42 PM
Sep 2020

Head out of his arse. Better late than never but damn late.

Cha

(297,220 posts)
29. Sorry, But Bullshit, Turbano, on "trump having
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 03:52 PM
Sep 2020

a good response until May 1st". he 's NEVER had any decent response.

he called it a "democrat hoax for 70 days" while playing golf and staging hate fest ralles. WASTING Precious Time!

Appreciate that you're noticing the Puppet is Lying through his teeth NOW though.

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