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still_one

(92,061 posts)
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 10:40 PM Sep 2020

I only saw part of it, but Cuomo was interviewing an undecided African American pastor who

voted for Jill Stein in 2016, and asked trump the question about systemic racism at last nights town hall

He was disappointed in trump and said he wouldn’t vote for trump, but wasn’t sure who he would vote for or if he would sit this one out, because “no candidate told me why I should vote for them”
Saying neither party has done anything for African Americans in 40 years

Cuomo sat there pretty much agreeing with him. When Don Lemon came on he had an exchange with Cuomo about that interview, and Don Lemon made some very important points.

Lemon first pointed out that it was very difficult for him to believe that very many people could be undecided, since from his perspective the choices could not be more clear between the two candidates. However, the key point Lemon made for that pastor who said that neither party has done anything for for the African American community, even if that was true, the Supreme Court is at stake, and other issues, and because of that, any progress that has been made with Civil Rights, and other issues could be completely undone.



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I only saw part of it, but Cuomo was interviewing an undecided African American pastor who (Original Post) still_one Sep 2020 OP
DAMN! elleng Sep 2020 #1
Looking for whoever offers the most "walking around" money no doubt. brush Sep 2020 #25
How can people not understand that if they don't vote for Biden, Dem2theMax Sep 2020 #2
Anybody that doesn't vote for Biden KatyMan Sep 2020 #5
Exactly. onecaliberal Sep 2020 #29
Exactly. Chump would pack the Supreme Court, and Totally Tunsie Sep 2020 #7
That is what Lemon pointed out still_one Sep 2020 #9
Thanks - I catch him in the rerun from 2-4:00. Totally Tunsie Sep 2020 #11
It was at the beginning when Cuomo turns the show to Lemon, and they have a discussion between still_one Sep 2020 #15
Good to know. Totally Tunsie Sep 2020 #21
Caught it. That was an interesting exchange. Totally Tunsie Sep 2020 #35
I thought so too Tunsie still_one Sep 2020 #36
You can't cure stupid. sheshe2 Sep 2020 #3
He is NOT thinking. BigmanPigman Sep 2020 #6
My optimist self tells me that he will end up voting for Biden/Harris when push comes to shove still_one Sep 2020 #12
Pastor or Man driving him? sheshe2 Sep 2020 #16
Evidently not. Don Lemon knows what's going on Cha Sep 2020 #14
Praying sure won't help. sheshe2 Sep 2020 #18
Exactly, she.. first he votes for Jill Stein's LIES.. Cha Sep 2020 #22
So many people are disappointing me. sheshe2 Sep 2020 #24
I know.. And, I should say.. the Dems were Fighting Cha Sep 2020 #26
If we want to live, it is what we must do. sheshe2 Sep 2020 #28
Some voters are too selfish to see further than LuvNewcastle Sep 2020 #4
Sorry, but People like that Pastor make me sick.. it's Cha Sep 2020 #8
that should be the deciding factor in anything demtenjeep Sep 2020 #10
Any jerk who enables Trump twice is an "irredeemable deplorable". oasis Sep 2020 #13
Technically he still is undecided, and only ruled out voting for trump, not Biden/Harris still_one Sep 2020 #17
"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem". nt oasis Sep 2020 #20
So no difference from 1960 til now? qazplm135 Sep 2020 #19
+++ still_one Sep 2020 #27
These "undecided voters" are mainly attention whores. If you have the time to go on political shows JI7 Sep 2020 #23
The democrats gave a lot of people healthcare. onecaliberal Sep 2020 #30
He sounds like another brainwashed victim of anti-Democratic propaganda. betsuni Sep 2020 #31
He asked Trump a question about when Rice4VP Sep 2020 #32
That was it, thank-you still_one Sep 2020 #33
not to speaknow Sep 2020 #34
I saw that guy on several shows. cwydro Sep 2020 #37
That guy seemed like an attention seeking troll. JI7 Sep 2020 #40
don't start me Chili Sep 2020 #38
💯 live love laugh Sep 2020 #39

brush

(53,741 posts)
25. Looking for whoever offers the most "walking around" money no doubt.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:39 PM
Sep 2020

It's disgraceful. Put you hand back in your pocket.

Nobody with any sense or knowledge of history could possibly be undecided between Biden and fucking donald trump.

Dem2theMax

(9,637 posts)
2. How can people not understand that if they don't vote for Biden,
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 10:56 PM
Sep 2020

Trump gets four more years, and America is history?

KatyMan

(4,177 posts)
5. Anybody that doesn't vote for Biden
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:00 PM
Sep 2020

Is voting for Trump as far as I'm concerned. And will be scorned and shunned accordingly.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
7. Exactly. Chump would pack the Supreme Court, and
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:02 PM
Sep 2020

there will be consequences to pay for decades. We might not be around to feel the effects, but our children and grandchildren will.

still_one

(92,061 posts)
15. It was at the beginning when Cuomo turns the show to Lemon, and they have a discussion between
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:10 PM
Sep 2020

themselves


sheshe2

(83,654 posts)
3. You can't cure stupid.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 10:56 PM
Sep 2020

To add to Dons's statement, we are also in the middle of a pandemic. A pandemic that is disproportionately killing African Americans. What is he thinking!

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
6. He is NOT thinking.
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:02 PM
Sep 2020

I think realistically he knows what the truth is, it is his emotional self that is in denial. Is his being a pastor, or a man what is driving his emotional lack of decision?

still_one

(92,061 posts)
12. My optimist self tells me that he will end up voting for Biden/Harris when push comes to shove
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:07 PM
Sep 2020

Biden will be giving a CNN town hall in Pennsylvania tomorrow, and perhaps he will tune in

Cha

(296,848 posts)
14. Evidently not. Don Lemon knows what's going on
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:10 PM
Sep 2020

The Pandemic that's Killing More African Americans that spread by trump's LIES.

The choice is Clear.. Life Or Death.. OR sit home on your GD hands & Pout.. not give one fuck about the SC, the People, the Country or the Planet.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
22. Exactly, she.. first he votes for Jill Stein's LIES..
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:27 PM
Sep 2020

So he doesn't have a good record of knowing what's real & good for our country & planet.

Now after 4 years of trump he's still sold on whining about the Dems.. who have bee Fighting on the Front LINES for us since 2018!

He doesn't see that if Hillary got elected we wouldn't be going through HELL right now.

I don't know him but I have a feeling he's just using that as an excuse about the Dems doing nothing for African Americans.. who Voted Overwhelmingly for Joe Biden.

As I said in another post.. they didn't do that because they didn't think Joe was on their side.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
26. I know.. And, I should say.. the Dems were Fighting
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:46 PM
Sep 2020

on the Front Lines for Democracy Before 2018.. it's just they were able to do more when they Won the Democratic House Victory. BLUE WAVE, Baby!

Like IMPEACH trump for being a traitor to his country.

LuvNewcastle

(16,834 posts)
4. Some voters are too selfish to see further than
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 10:58 PM
Sep 2020

their own single issue to get out and vote. No matter who make up your group, there are members of various other groups who also support yours. So it's horrible to sit out an election when your participation could benefit some of your allies. Besides, if you want your group to benefit from a party's support, refusing to help others in the party is not the way to do it.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
8. Sorry, but People like that Pastor make me sick.. it's
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:02 PM
Sep 2020

all about them. African Americans Voted Overwhelmingly for Joe Biden. They didn't do that because they didn't think he was on their side.

The pastor voted for Jill Stein's LIES.. so tell me.. WTF does he know about anything?!

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
10. that should be the deciding factor in anything
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:04 PM
Sep 2020

4 more years of trump will give him 2 possibly 4 seats

that should terrify ANYONE



I love RGB but wish she had retired under Obama


oasis

(49,326 posts)
13. Any jerk who enables Trump twice is an "irredeemable deplorable".
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:08 PM
Sep 2020

Those kind of assholes deserve every hardship which befalls them when he gets another 4 years.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
19. So no difference from 1960 til now?
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:16 PM
Sep 2020

No difference from 1980?

I'm African American and I certainly know the democratic party has not lived up to what it should be, but that's a FAR cry from pretending that both parties are the same, and there's no difference.

That's either blindness or stubborn ignorance.

JI7

(89,240 posts)
23. These "undecided voters" are mainly attention whores. If you have the time to go on political shows
Wed Sep 16, 2020, 11:33 PM
Sep 2020

and talk about politics than you should be able to read or even just a quick glance at history would show you that you are full of shit if you think there is no difference or democrats have done nothing.

Fuck That . And Fuck THem .

The true undecided voters are the "which way the wind blows" types who will go with what they think is popular at the moment but they don't follow politics that closely.

And the media enables stupidity by giving these people as much attention as they do .

onecaliberal

(32,777 posts)
30. The democrats gave a lot of people healthcare.
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 12:03 AM
Sep 2020

The ACA is why my son and husband are alive. I’m sick of hearing both party bullshit.

betsuni

(25,378 posts)
31. He sounds like another brainwashed victim of anti-Democratic propaganda.
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 12:21 AM
Sep 2020

Both Clinton and Obama had two years of majority control. Until Democrats have years and years of the presidency and filibuster-proof control of Congress and the result is that they pass the same policies as Republicans, then and only then should we have to hear nonsense about Democrats not doing anything for people.

Rice4VP

(1,235 posts)
32. He asked Trump a question about when
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 12:24 AM
Sep 2020

was America great for Black people at the ABC townhall last night and he’s been on a media tour all day. He’s frustrating to listen to..especially in a swing state

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
37. I saw that guy on several shows.
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 04:29 AM
Sep 2020

So much for the belief that Biden picking a black running mate will get minority voters to the polls.

If that guy can’t see how awful the buffoon is to the country,mi can’t imagine what will get him to vote. Does he not care about the environment. About climate change? About letting corporations run rampant? About health insurance? Has he heard of the Voting Rights Act?

JI7

(89,240 posts)
40. That guy seemed like an attention seeking troll.
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 03:59 PM
Sep 2020

When he started talking about lesser of two evils I knew he was full of shit.

Chili

(1,725 posts)
38. don't start me
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 04:52 AM
Sep 2020

(I have to go to bed )

But I really hate that what-have-they-done-for-me-lately argument that makes someone not vote. ESPECIALLY NOW.

Good grief.

I heard Lemon's comments, and I nodded and pointed at the TV when he said it. I'm one of those black women who say GET OUT THERE AND F*CKING VOTE DAMMIT! No excuses, no oh-my-conscience. "maybe I'll vote 3rd party!" when this racist fascist and his psychopathic lunatic QAnon Klan quackheads want you DEAD.

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