So I read Ohio will be the battleground

[samplegirl]

state again. That does not make me confident.
Sign wise in N.E. Ohio it’s Herd mentaility all the way!

[Skittles]

1. seems like Ohio is determined to become Kentucky

yup

[True Blue American]

4. I live in Ohio

Am deep in politics. Never heard that.

I did read that Biden is up four points in Ohio.

I might also remind everyone that Ohio gave Obama the electoral vote to be President. That was a happy time for me. If you remember Karl Rove.

[Chili]

6. I was on the phone with a friend when Ohio was called

We both started crying.

It was the most satisfying happy election night I can remember.

[True Blue American]

9. Same for me!

I jumped right out of my lazy boy, then laughed at Karl Rove. They had to take him back to the election room. He was complaining the votes for northern Ohio were not in. They told him there were not enough to matter. Silly, Northern Ohio is more Democratic than my Southwestern Ohio.

Funny though, Counties all the way down the Ohio river had not voted Democratic for 100 years voted for Obama!

[Chili]

11. Yes!

Cuyahoga intentionally held back the count to be the last chunk of votes counted for the state that night. Thrilling! Take THAT Rove, you rat.

And hopefully they'll vote for Biden this time!

[True Blue American]

15. That is what made Rove's objection so funny!

[Skittles]

21. did they go for Hillary or Trump?

just wondering

[samplegirl]

37. Trump

[irisblue]

24. It seems to be slipping that way

The urban /rural divide is strong here.

The cities likely will go blue, but the suburbs of Cincinnati, Cleveland and Columbus are the determiners and why trumpers are pushing the Law & Order and save the suburbs so damn hard

[doc03]

35. I visited Buckeye lake a few weeks ago every damn house and boat has a Trump flag. nt

[airmid]

28. A popular saying here in my part of Ohio is "Ohio is the annex of Kentucky" All of

my family originated from Eastern KY in the last century. They came here to escape the coal mines for better paying jobs in steel mills and car manufacturing. The mentality had not changed much until the last 20 years or so. My Dad, born in Knott Co. KY came here for a job at General Motors where he retired from. He was a Union steward and worker's rights advocate but still held a lot of racist and backwoods views. He voted for Trump last election but has now begged me to vote Biden. I guess even 88-year-olds can change with enough impetus.

[Chili]

2. I'm in Cuyahoga

Where are you seeing a lot of those signs? I don't get out of the house much these days - extremely high risk to COVID - but I have yet to see one. I'm working from home now, but on the way to work (25 min drive), I'd know exactly which three houses might have them - they had them for McCain, then Romney. But none of them had trump signs in '16.

[True Blue American]

12. I was in Lebanon last week.

Saw 3 Trump signs on tiny, rural houses.

[Chili]

16. Ah

Once we leave the cities...

[regnaD kciN]

3. Frankly, I don't know anyone who's saying that...

PA, MI, WI, AZ, FL, NC, and even GA and TX seem to be mentioned a lot more than OH, which most people see as having become just another red state.

[True Blue American]

5. Here

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/16/912004173/2020-electoral-map-ratings-landscape-tightens-some-but-biden-is-still-ahead

[samplegirl]

14. At it shoes Toss up

Loads of Trumpers here and I mean loads.

[Chili]

7. not just another "red state"

Sherrod Brown is my senator, and he's not a centrist.

[True Blue American]

10. Sherrod Brown

Is the one who said,Ohio is up 4 points.

He is one Senator that never fails to answer emails personally. He follows in the footsteps of John Glenn.

[Chili]

13. yes he does

Love him dearly, and Connie too.

(I remember Glenn and Metzenbaum - those were good times)

[True Blue American]

17. Both great Senators.

Strickland was blamed for the Bush recession. From Duck Run, just like Roy Rogers.

I grew up in Southern Ohio, close to the river.

I get a kick out of people bragging they left Ohio for California. I am quite happy in my green state with seasons.

[Chili]

20. me too

I love my state, I get a little protective about it. Even if I hit the lottery, I would still live here.

[Okay, I'd have a little beach hut on Maui for a few weeks a year, but I'd still live here. ]

But those rural counties are where we look so red - it's an ugly map out there.

[ElementaryPenguin]

33. Sherrod and Connie were neighbors of ours (lived a few houses down) until a few years ago.

WONDERFUL people, both!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sherrod is the quintessential public servant. Connie is hysterically funny.

[Chili]

41. oh how cool!

Sherrod is so into the people - he listens, he cares... couldn't ask for more, 'cept be nice if he had a partner in the Senate. Voinivich, though a repub, was a good man. He was actually liked as mayor of Cleveland. Had to quit when the ugliness got too much for him. But somehow we haven't unseated Portman yet... gotta happen.

And I remember reading Connie when she used to do movie reviews for the PD. Always liked her.

But lucky you to have such great neighbors!!!

[DFW]

8. No state can be ignored

OK, sure, it's pretty obvious which way Massachusetts and Oklahoma will go, but states like Ohio, PA, NC, IA, WI, Florida, even Georgia and Texas shouldn't be written off (or counted as sure for us). All these years later, Howard was still right. We need a 50 state strategy.

[Chili]

18. 50 state strategy

YES. Obama had that nailed. Winning caucuses in states rarely visited. He had an intense campaign strategy - which I believe Biden would have, too, now, but COVID knocked out that possibility cold.

[True Blue American]

19. Agree

And you can bet with all the Democrats involved who know how to run elections we are seeing a change.

[irisblue]

22. From the State Democratic Party Chair

Link to tweet

[RhodeIslandOne]

51. Meh, Trump goes where he feels comfortable

While I would not be shocked if they are losing Ohio, Trump would rather be wildly cheered on TV by a handful of Buckeye Bullshit artists than go anywhere he might be heckled.

[DIVINEprividence]

23. I think Ohio is winnable. Go all in

We have to TAKE the presidency away from Trump and the GOP. We can win Ohio. We have to fight for it tooth and nail. Biden has the war chest. They should blitz Ohio after Florida and really turn the heat up on Trump. Hey Bloomberg. How about dropping $100m on Ohio too.

[True Blue American]

25. Trump's insistence

On boycotting Goodyear, his lies about Lordstown did not help him.

[Demsrule86]

49. I agree.

[spinbaby]

26. It's harder to get Biden signs

Believe me, I know. But magats can easily get Trump signs at Trump stands, which I think were former fireworks stands.

We have a number of HUGE Trump banners locally here in western PA. I notice they’re still using the “Make America Great Again” slogan, which is pretty damn funny after almost four years of Trump.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

27. It's not THE battleground.

"The" is reserved for Ohio State University! Lol, kidding!

Ohio is among several other close states, though, and shouldn't be taken for granted either way.

This NPR map, from a link above in this thread, shows how this election could be infuriatingly close if Biden fares just a bit worse than polling currently indicates in states like FL, AZ, WI, NC, OH and GA (which is polling the worst for Biden among those states).

[NNadir]

29. The question is not whether it is A battleground or THE battleground.

Herds that insist on being heard are not necessarily the largest herds.

Lemmings herd as well.

[maxrandb]

30. That's strange, because I'm seeing just the opposite

4 years ago, I rarely saw Clinton/Kaine signs, but this year, I'm seeing tons of Biden/Harris signs.

Hell, even in my traditionally "red" area of Canton I'm seeing lots of Biden signs.

Could be folks are shamed and embarrassed, but will still vote for the Dipshit, but I'm sure not seeing the enthusiasm or momentum for the asspickle as I did 4 years ago.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

31. Same here!

The Clintons were especially not liked in Ohio after factory closings and such in the 90's. It wasn't fair, but I've known about it for years and it's why I was so pleased that Obama ran for President in 2008 and he won the nomination.

I supported Hillary Clinton four years ago, of course, but I knew she'd have a big struggle in Ohio.

There's absolutely not the crazy number of Trump signs in my area like in 2016, and I'm taking that as a positive.

[Demsrule86]

47. I don't see them either. I do see Biden signs although I have dogs and in rural Ohio

there was some poisoning of dogs by right wingers in 12 so I don't put signs out.

[Demsrule86]

48. I live near Cleveland but have traveled the state as hubs is out of work as well as me...

I have seen far less signs this year too...and polls show the state tied or with Biden ahead by two or three points.

[philf99]

32. Lake County

In 2004 Kerry got 59K votes. In 2008 Obama got 60K votes and won the county. In 2012 Obama got 58K votes. In 2016 Clinton got 46K votes.

Compared to 2012, turn dropped about 4K and 3rd party voting increases by 4K. Trump’s numbers were not significantly better than any of other Republicans.

Too many Democrats stayed home or voted third party. We can’t see a repeat. Biden needs to get over 60K in Lake County to have a chance in Ohio

[doc03]

34. If that is the case from my observation we are in trouble. The Trump people are far more

motivated, every last one of them will vote and will get counted. We have to depend on young people even voting again and people
in urban areas even being able to vote.

[Demsrule86]

46. Democrats are more motivated. I hate Trump more than a 10000000 burning suns and would

crawl across broken glass to vote that SOB out...everyone I know feels the same way. You all act like Trump people are all powerful. They are not. Trump barely won in three states last time...and we had the Russian Princess Green POS then...that is not the case now. We have an out of control pandemic and economic chaos...Ohio is hit particularly hard by this...Trump has a minority of support. He never broke 50 ....not ever.

[colsohlibgal]

36. Sad

Those of us in those pockets of liberal leaning big metro areas along I-71 and NE Ohio need to show up and vote. We can win Ohio for Joe/Kamala.

[greenjar_01]

38. Trump heading to NW Ohio outside Toledo on Monday

I mean, I get that it catches southern Michigan / Detroit suburbs as well, but that stretch of NW Ohio should be a gimme for Trump. Weird to have to visit there now.

[Demsrule86]

45. Ohio is either a statistical tie or Biden is ahead...Trump is panicked.

[Drunken Irishman]

39. The election does not hinge on Ohio but it is a battle ground.

Biden is playing better there than Hillary was four years ago it seems.

I'm also not terribly concerned about signs. People get too worked up about that. I remember the same thing being floated in 2012 as to why Obama will lose.

[Demsrule86]

44. If Biden wins Ohio and he could, the 'large' lady sings and Trump is done...and completely

humiliated. If we win Florida, Arizona (now lean Democratic) or Ohio, it is over for Trump.

[grantcart]

40. 2020 will be a Goodyear.

[BlueWavePsych]

42. Ohio: Biden 49%, Trump 45%

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2020/ohio_biden_49_trump_45

Even GOP-biased Rasmussen shows a Biden lead. Hopefully GOP spends more money here ... hah!

[Demsrule86]

43. I live in Northern Ohio. I don't put a sign out because I don't want to deal with right wing

idiots, and there are some. However, I have seen Biden signs. But I can tell you the state is in a statistical tie. And since Trump won Ohio by more than in Georgia last year, that is both surprising and significant...so tired of the doom and gloom.

I don't know if we win, but Biden is running many commercials. And I personally have seen the early Trump signs taken down in my area. Try being positive. We are in a much better place than 16 and Trump is going down. Doom and gloom depresses people and the vote. I am voting in person by the way...early voting I want to win on election night.

[ooky]

50. I don't consider Ohio a battleground state. If we win it, fabulous, but I'm

not putting any of my hopes on what I see as a likely red state with all the other important winnable battleground states and EC scenarios that could put us over the top - without Ohio.