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Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 09:58 AM Sep 2020

Memo to Barr RE: Mandatory "Shelter in Place" orders violating Civil Liberties

What do you call mandatory curfews then, which you support when mass protests are underway? What about mandatory evacuation orders which are issued when major wildfires and Hurricanes approach inhabited regions? Shouldn't the public be free to make their own decisions on how to navigate these potentially dangerous situations without Government imposing restrictions on their freedom to come and go as they see fit?

Or what about the freedom to light our own homes and neighborhoods, or to navigate our roads at night, as we ourselves choose? Millions of Americans lost that freedom during World War II. Was that a massive violation of our civil liberties also?

"During World War II, blackouts were issued by the US government along the East Coast and were enforced by the Civil Defense wardens. Lights from homes and businesses on land would create silhouettes of the Allies’ supply ships, making them easy targets for German U-boats (Local) and it is very apparent from the air at night that the lights from cities and villages are an excellent guide to navigate an aircraft and for air raid targets (World War II Blackout). To discourage attacks, streetlights were covered to allow only a small light cast straight downward and car headlights were dimmed and covered with tape, which was also used in homes to hold curtains closed (Local) and the US Government required that all communities have a blackout plan in place (World War II Blackout).
https://lifeonthehomefrontduringworldwar.weebly.com/blackouts.html

Americans can't smoke wherever we want to. We can't drive around in cars without seat belts fastened, or ride motorcycles without wearing a helmet. Even land that we legally own can be confiscated by the government if there is an important public interest in it being used for a purpose deemed necessary by the government. Just ask landowners on the Texas/Mexico border, Mr. Barr, who are having their property seized so that Trump can build his wall.

And while we are at it, what right does the government have to tell me which side of the road I have to drive on. Doesn't that also take away my freedom to decide best for myself how and when to avoid potential vehicular danger?

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Memo to Barr RE: Mandatory "Shelter in Place" orders violating Civil Liberties (Original Post) Tom Rinaldo Sep 2020 OP
K&R chowder66 Sep 2020 #1
+100,000 Have you been eavesdropping on my rants?!? ;-D n/t myccrider Sep 2020 #2
So THAT'S what I've been picking up through a sub space distortion Tom Rinaldo Sep 2020 #3
Just great minds having the same great thoughts. myccrider Sep 2020 #4

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
3. So THAT'S what I've been picking up through a sub space distortion
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:12 AM
Sep 2020

and all along I thought it was my own feverish imagination

Of course Barr's obscene invocation of slavery, by way of comparison, rightfully has gotten most of the attention and angry blowback, but this is an AG who would invoke whatever "emergency" powers he deemed necessary to shut down, imprison, or worse to advance his ideological agenda if he thought he could get away with it. And if he is in office next February, no doubt he would. Freedom is just a convenient political buzz word to him.

myccrider

(484 posts)
4. Just great minds having the same great thoughts.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:22 PM
Sep 2020


I can’t decide if Barr is so openly spouting/doing this crap because

a) he’s gone completely around the bend (crazy rw xtian nationalism/authoritarianism...like several close relatives of mine )

b) he thinks the majority of citizens agree with him.

c) he thinks the fix is in and there won’t be any repercussion for what he’s saying or doing.

d) all of the above.

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