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struggle4progress

(118,275 posts)
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 10:51 AM Sep 2020

Disputes CDC head's vaccine timeline and mask claims

Sep 17, 2020 7:18 AM
Posted By: CNN

President Donald Trump again contradicted his own health officials' coronavirus statements -- this time on the importance of mask wearing and the timing for a vaccine.

And he demeaned Dr. Robert Redfield, the director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, saying the doctor was "confused" in his congressional testimony.

Redfield said Wednesday that masks may be a more effective protection against coronavirus than any potential vaccine that the President can't stop hyping. And he laid out a timeline for when the general US public could expect to start seeing results from widespread coronavirus vaccination the second or third quarter of 2021. Those statements both seemed to contradict what Trump has been saying.

"I might even go so far as to say that this face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against Covid than when I take a Covid vaccine, because the immunogenicity may be 70%. And if I don't get an immune response, the vaccine is not going to protect me. This face mask will," Redfield told lawmakers during public testimony ...

https://www.kdrv.com/content/news/572440632.html

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Disputes CDC head's vaccine timeline and mask claims (Original Post) struggle4progress Sep 2020 OP
Meadows Dismisses CDC's COVID Vaccine Timeline struggle4progress Sep 2020 #1
States plan to independently vet COVID-19 vaccine data struggle4progress Sep 2020 #2
One question no one has asked is, PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #3

struggle4progress

(118,275 posts)
1. Meadows Dismisses CDC's COVID Vaccine Timeline
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 11:01 AM
Sep 2020

BY KATHERINE FUNG ON 9/17/20 AT 10:24 AM EDT

White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows joined President Donald Trump in dismissing the vaccine timeline provided by Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Dr. Robert Redfield ...

Redfield, who has been a key health expert leading the nation's coronavirus response, told a Senate panel on Wednesday that while a vaccine may be available as early as November, it was unlikely to to be distributed to the general public until the second or third quarter of 2021.

Meadows disputed the doctor's proposed timeline, saying the Trump administration would have 100 million vials to cover a large portion of the public by October ...

https://www.newsweek.com/mark-meadows-dismisses-cdcs-covid-vaccine-timeline-says-those-closest-process-know-more-1532592

struggle4progress

(118,275 posts)
2. States plan to independently vet COVID-19 vaccine data
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 11:04 AM
Sep 2020

By Emily Kopp
Posted September 17, 2020 at 8:51am

State officials are expressing skepticism about federal reviews of potential COVID-19 vaccines, with some going so far as to plan to independently analyze clinical trial data before distributing a vaccine in a sign of how sharply trust in federal health agencies has fallen this year.

The wariness, which public health experts call highly unusual if not unprecedented, could undercut the goal of a cohesive national immunization strategy and create a patchwork of efforts that may sabotage hopes of containing the coronavirus ...

Seven jurisdictions indicated they would analyze the data independently: California, Colorado, the District of Columbia, Michigan, New York, Oregon and West Virginia. Another two — Montana and Wyoming — said they'd only administer a vaccine that completed clinical trials and an outside committee's review. Three states — Arizona, Georgia and Oklahoma — indicated they would accept federal recommendations as usual ...

“The president says he's going to have a vaccine. CDC is talking about a vaccine in early November. How convenient. It's going to be an Election Day miracle drug,” New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo ...

https://www.rollcall.com/2020/09/17/exclusive-states-plan-to-independently-vet-covid-19-vaccine-data/

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,841 posts)
3. One question no one has asked is,
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 12:02 PM
Sep 2020

once we have a vaccine that works, how long will it take to manufacture it? What's the timeline? According to what I see on the interwebs, the actual manufacturing, depending on the specific vaccine, anywhere from 6 to 36 months.

So if there are going to be a hundred million doses available by Election Day, then they are already in the pipeline, being manufactured before research on a vaccine really began. However, I sincerely doubt there are any vaccines in the pipeline, and Trump and those around him are saying that simply because they think saying it makes it real.

Even having a safe, effective vaccine ready to go a year from now is optimistic. Not wildly so, but still optimistic.

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