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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump isn't setting up to contest the election. He's setting up an excuse.
He wants to blame fraud for his impending loss. He realizes that contesting the national election is a loser scenario for him, as it will likely end in even a more humiliating defeat than just getting bounced on election night. Sure, he might crow about fraud and how it was stolen from him and he may never officially conceded if he loses - but it's all bluster to placate his vanity.
By screaming fraud right now, he can convince himself he really didn't lose. It's about making him feel better.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Plus voter suppression! Its a trifecta of Drumpf nonsense
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Jarqui
(10,122 posts)He knows the statute of limitations can toll off for a lot of his crimes if he can get reelected.
I think he realizes this is for all the marbles.
He's a desperate man and I wouldn't underestimate that or his vindictiveness.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)gopiscrap
(23,726 posts)there is no prison in it's right mind that would want to deal with him or any other president for that matter my guess is if Trump loses about Jan 1 he will quit "du to medical reasons) in a deal with Pence Pence will pardon him of all federal crimes and he will skip to an autocratic nation where he can't be snatched, build a a huge place for that leader and a nice spot for himself also. Just be careful of a chunk of the national treasury going out the door with him
ooky
(8,908 posts)New York could very well go after him.
Not the republican nonsense but this always stunk of corruption:
" One analysis performed by Auburn University and published in the Journal of Economics and Finance claimed to find that the odds of a return as large as Clinton obtained during the period in question were about one in 31 trillion."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_cattle_futures_controversy
I fully expect to be juried and have the post removed but facts are stubborn things...
denbot
(9,898 posts)He will go full bore to stay in office, and have Ivanka succeed him.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)It's that simple. He realizes he's losing and he's trying to pad the inevitable.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)We can't forget that there have already been killings by people who think Trump gave them a signal to get violent.
Cesar Sayoc comes to mind-- he was trying (fortunately failed) to kill two former presidents and many others with bombs-- in support of Trump. Ditto the Coast Guard officer Hasson, with the arsenal of assault weapons.
People like this are eager to take revenge against anyone against Trump.
woodsprite
(11,905 posts)They'll do anything for him to win even if he doesn't want the job anymore.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)And we wake up to International "Fuck,He's Finally Gone Day" and party like rockstars.
ScratchCat
(1,977 posts)At some point, Trump has to resign and have Pence pardon him for any potential federal crime to avoid potential federal prosecution. This HAS to happen. They will obviously claim Trump didn't do anything wrong, but "those evil Democrats are so hell-bent on getting him" that they would fabricate something. An in my opinion, this entire probe of the Russia Investigation is to set it up to look like any legitimate investigation of Trump once he is gone is merely "political", meant to pay back Trump for investigating Obama.
gopiscrap
(23,726 posts)Bayard
(22,011 posts)So why would he need a pardon?
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)I have no doubt he will try to stay in power by any means he think he can get away with...he will not succeed.
I believe Biden will win but I thought Hilary Clinton would beat Trump, not by a lot, but would win.
So what do I know. Just going to have see how this all shakes out.
The Magistrate
(95,243 posts)He may think or even feel he is doing something else, but personal salve against looming defeat likely is the ground. He can tell himself he's not a loser if they cheated....
Enoki33
(1,587 posts)depth of Reichdrumpfs evilness. We have been warned more than once he is fully capable of burning down the nation in furtherance of his dictatorship, revenge and possible prison avoidance. He has the mentality of a modern day Idi Amin backed by the cunning of the GRU. Every single one of us whos guided by the constitution have to vote as though our lives depend on it. Because it does.
honest.abe
(8,617 posts)Makes sense given who we are dealing with here.
This gives me hope we might not have to deal with the "Trump wont leave the WH" scenario or endless legal challenges.
brooklynite
(94,381 posts)Bayard
(22,011 posts)I don't think NYC is going to give up.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Trump will lawsuit every swing state the Democratic party wins.
kentuck
(111,056 posts)About the only way he can win is to rig it.
He can put lipstick on this pig and it is still going to wallow in the mud.
Crunchy Frog
(26,578 posts)NotASurfer
(2,147 posts)The plot went something like this:
Putin (to Individual 1): we will rig the election for you
Individual 1 (to everyone): remember that this is a rigged election!
Sane responsible people: no, we don't hold rigged elections, Individual 1 will have to abide by the results of his obvious onrushing landslide defeat
Putin: bwahahaha!
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In other words, it's also his attempt to bait sane responsible people into reassuring everyone that, ok maybe there was tampering in 2016, but it can't happen again in 2020. However, in 2020, sane responsible people are aware of and are calling out nonstop efforts by Individual 1 to tamper with the election. So this year it's a far less effective line of attack to proactively legitimize a rigged election.
Same playbook as last time, but we've made a few adjustments at halftime to keep it from getting downfield in the second half