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wryter2000

(46,035 posts)
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 12:51 PM Sep 2020

Has anyone pointed out to Barr that his rant contains an obvious contradiction?

On the one hand, he claims mail-in ballots can't be secret because they come attached to your name on the outside of the envelope. On the other hand, he claims people will round up ballots and fill them out fraudulently. How can you do the latter without the required signatures? My understanding is the signatures are checked.

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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
1. Drumpf untroubled that the virus is no biggie, yet a vaccine must be rushed
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 12:53 PM
Sep 2020

That kind of thing doesn’t bother them

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
4. Worse than that
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 12:57 PM
Sep 2020

Vaccine is imminent, but we are practicing herd immunity. That is contradictory. That means everyone who gets it before the vaccine is available that would have avoided it with risk mitigation (social distancing, masks, limiting gatherings), is a needless victim. That for ta tiny bit of economic activity.

wryter2000

(46,035 posts)
11. That one slays me
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 01:04 PM
Sep 2020

Just the idea they'd consider herd immunity boggles the mind. We'd be talking about well over 2 million deaths.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
13. Trump never said anything about herd immunity.
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 02:05 PM
Sep 2020

He said he wants herd mentality, which is clearly a true statement if you look at any MAGAT rally.

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
2. When Everything That Comes Out of a Persons Mouth...
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 12:55 PM
Sep 2020

is a lie; it's nearly impossible to make corrections.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
6. The ballots are removed from the outside envelope and it is verified. The ballot is still in the
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 12:59 PM
Sep 2020

secrecy envelope and is no longer connected to the mailing envelope. So what he is claiming is that the election workers don't seperate the secret ballot from the mailing envelope? That's a lie.

wryter2000

(46,035 posts)
8. We don't have a separate envelope for the inside in CA
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 01:01 PM
Sep 2020

Still, your point is correct. I can't imagine any poll worker cares to see how wryter2000 voted. Or if they did, they'd get pretty sick of looking after a few ballots.

Leith

(7,808 posts)
7. One can't reason a person out of position
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 01:00 PM
Sep 2020

that reason did not put the person into.

Barr has made a practice of believing 5 impossible things before breakfast every day for decades. He's way beyond such an amateur level as this.

wryter2000

(46,035 posts)
9. I can't believe this guy was AG in the past
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 01:02 PM
Sep 2020

I know he did crooked things back then, but he's morphed into a nonsense-spewing alien.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
12. Fraud is not the issue; disenfranchisement is
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 01:55 PM
Sep 2020

Signatures are checked against the signature on file when you registered to vote. For some people it was this year or last, for others it was 60 years ago. Signatures change. Names change (you should already have made those name changes with your Board of Elections).

Others might be disqualified because the signature name doesn’t match the file name exactly (that stinks, but it’s up to the individual or group checking). So if you registered to vote as Rufus Theodore Firefly and sign your envelope as Rufus T. Firefly or Rufe Firefly, there’s an outside chance your ballot could be rejected. Check your voter ID card or your state or local election website to see how your name is registered. And sign it that way! And remember to sign your signature, not print or something fancy. The way you may have done it then or normally do it. *

As for dogs voting fraudulently, that would be a pretty good trick. The dog would have had to submit ID and several other identification documents (gas bill, rent receipt with name on it, etc) to register in the first place.

* This is not as much of an issue when you are voting in person, because even though you have to sign the registered voter book, it’s just a single election volunteer checking (unless there’s a problem), and you can show ID if necessary.

wryter2000

(46,035 posts)
14. Thanks
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 02:07 PM
Sep 2020

I've always signed my name the same way, but it's worth checking. I have checked to see that my registration is valid.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
15. I can't sign my name the same way twice; just don't have that skill.
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 02:13 PM
Sep 2020

I'm a bit anxious about this.

I need to practice and get a little better at it.

I know the template here is my driver's license signature.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
16. Me too
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 02:25 PM
Sep 2020

I sign a bit differently depending on the space available. Sometimes put the cap on the capital J, sometimes not. It’s never a problem when I’ve voted in person, but who knows with a mail-in ballot?

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