One of Joe's strengths - actually in contrast to Obama!

[cilla4progress]

is he talks like most blue collar / high school grad voters.

Obama elevates. Like a scholar, like an intellectual, like Zen monk. A little exaggerated, but you get my drift.

[nolabear]

1. I like both, but I get your drift. Joes definitely got the common touch.

That said both comfort me.

[cilla4progress]

3. Yes.

almost crying to hear him speak as if he actually cares about us!

[OAITW r.2.0]

2. A perceived smart black dude vs. a perceived blue collar white guy.

I am sadly in agreement. Our country seems to have a problem with electing intelligent people on their own merits. They need to cling onto archetypes for their vote calculus. But actually, Obama straddled both the intelligent and the relatable spheres quite well.

[cilla4progress]

4. I agree.

But i never heard him trip over his words, misspeak, or use iffy grammar.

Both equally smart, honest, compassionate, leaders.

So genuine.

[OAITW r.2.0]

6. Exactly....2 smart and intelligent people who can harness government and people

to do common good. This is what continually making America great is about. And Fuck Trump and his pithy 4 word phrase. Probably came to the orange anus after doing 8 lines of Adderall.

[LakeArenal]

5. I think both learned from each other.

Nothing quite as folksy as Obama kissing a baby or rolling up his sleeves to shoot a few hoops.

But Biden can be as dignified and on point as Barack with a crisis.

[OAITW r.2.0]

7. Absolutely right. They both benefited from the 8 years they worked together.

Joe's worldview is well influenced by his time with Obama.

[cilla4progress]

9. And remember, Joe was out ahead of Barack

on marriage equality.

[OAITW r.2.0]

10. As were most White Democrats vs. Black Democrats.

I think it is fair to say that the power of the Black movement on Equality came out of the Black religious community. Gay rights, for most establishment religious movements, were anti-Gay.... cuz Bible? So Obama was probably behind on that issue because the Gay Rights movement was predominately a white movement that Democrats, like Biden, were more involved with this social justice..

[Cracklin Charlie]

8. The contrast is there.

But it’s genuine....on both their parts.

Both men are uplifting in their own way.

[bigtree]

11. single mother Obama?

...that's a stretch.