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Help. I need a simple way of explaing that BLM is not (Original Post) leftyladyfrommo Sep 2020 OP
I would look for examples of BLM distancing or denouncing vandalism and looting Amishman Sep 2020 #1
That's what is happening here. nt leftyladyfrommo Sep 2020 #3
My niece, married to my police officer nephew hauckeye Sep 2020 #2
from what I read a couple of the founders did believe leftyladyfrommo Sep 2020 #5
lots of good stuff here NRaleighLiberal Sep 2020 #4
So you're saying... GeorgeGist Sep 2020 #6
This politifact may help JonLP24 Sep 2020 #7
I think Marxism and Marxist economic theory aren't leftyladyfrommo Sep 2020 #8

Amishman

(5,555 posts)
1. I would look for examples of BLM distancing or denouncing vandalism and looting
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:04 AM
Sep 2020

Opportunists using BLM protests as cover for committing crimes is a huge huge image problem.

Here is an example i found in a quick google search: https://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/ct-life-cb-black-lives-matter-chicago-20200903-xh75kbw5nfdk5joudlsgb2viwq-story.html

Shaking the Marxist accusations is a little trickier. With prominent individuals in the movement like Patrisse Cullors making connections to marxism (the unfortunate trained marxist comment that made so many rounds in traditional and social media) its hard to slam that door. The best way to challenge this is to point out how BLM has grown in size and support, and is a grass roots movement and not a hierarchical organization. It has grown beyond its founders and any possible marxist roots they may have.

hauckeye

(634 posts)
2. My niece, married to my police officer nephew
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:10 AM
Sep 2020

Says BLM founders are Marxist, so it’s anti-Christian, so she’ll be voting all red in Texas this election. Nothing I say would matter 😡

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
5. from what I read a couple of the founders did believe
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:16 AM
Sep 2020

in Marxist economic theory. But the group has grown and ballooned way beyond the original members.

I think it has grown now to include millions who want to see the end of systemic racism.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
7. This politifact may help
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:26 AM
Sep 2020
https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/jul/21/black-lives-matter-marxist-movement/

I looked up Marxism to see why the Republicans hate it and I honestly don't disagree with much of the theories as far as diagnosing the problem but a lot of it is outdated

There are socialists that support BLM but most support it because of the anti-racism message. It means it is a mass movement as the politifact explains.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
8. I think Marxism and Marxist economic theory aren't
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:45 AM
Sep 2020

necessarily the same thing.

Marxist economic theory was simply a reaction to the awful living conditions and horrific working conditions of the working class in the middle 1800's.

It was a powerful idea for the times . It seems to me to be pretty outdated for today. But that kind of economic theory resulted in a lot of the protections that workers now enjoy.

I wonder if Unions weren't a direct result of the social movements that were the result of basic Marxist theory. I need to look that up.

Unions began mid 1800's. Marxist theory held that there is a continous wae being waged between the upper ruling class and the working class.

It's interesting that unions didn't have a huge impact until the strikes of the Depression.

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