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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow do Republicans put themselves back together after Trump?
Trump is not going to release his supporters to the Republican Party. They are his army. They are his militia. He will continue to use them to further his own interests.
Old-line Republicans will have to start over or they will all have to become part of the Trump Party.
Surely, this is something they have thought about?
How do they become a legitimate political Party once Trump is no longer in power? He will not surrender control of his cult to anyone. They will dance with him or they will dance with no one.
It couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch of cowards.
onecaliberal
(32,826 posts)Sorry but theyve shown their collective ass to America. 200,000 people are dead. So, no!
Claustrum
(4,845 posts)So even if Trump loses in November, he will be shouting and inserting his voice in the republican circles. He isn't going to let the golden egg go because he can continue to make money off them.
My prediction would be that Trump/republicans has to lose a few elections before the republican base will desert him.
Zoonart
(11,849 posts)They are already building it.
Then the Lincoln party will begin digging up the remains of old discredited policy and bringing fresh body parts to the lab to construct an all new monster. Put money on it. It is the safest bet in the world.
Polybius
(15,385 posts)The base and even average Republican hates them. They think they are a just a moderate version of the Democratic Party.
Cosmocat
(14,563 posts)This shit did not start with him.
It took 30 years of AM hate radio and the political mutation of modern american christianity to allow the party to have a complete sociopath take it over.
THEY, the Nwet Gingriches and the endless array of conservative profiteers like Rush, Hannity, etc. who live a high life making big coin feeding the poison to the zombie base have created the Frankensteins monster that is the GOP.
You are right he won't let it go, his one master skill is manipulating weak people.
Functionally, this is now a full on white supremacist, deranged conspiracy party now.
No one is going to magically ride in on a horse of reason and decency to take it back.
crickets
(25,962 posts)Republicans might have to do something about the media monsters they've allowed to run rampant on Fox and RW hate radio, or at least tolerate the possibility without pushing back so hard. It finally might occur to them that lack of responsibility in 'news' media is a problem so out of hand that it cuts both ways now.
I know. Pigs might fly.
Tribalceltic
(1,000 posts)will they be allowed to interact with each other or kept apart like other dangerous gangs?
Voltaire2
(13,009 posts)They are not going anywhere. "Old-line Republicans" are a vast minority in the party, they are not going to have any role at all regardless of the outcome in november.
Rice4VP
(1,235 posts)treated with disdain for emboldening a racist that hid the truth from Americans that couldve saved 200,000 lives. They need to lose power for a generation..but Ill settle for Biden and Harris 12 years.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)the destruction of the GOP is thorough under trump and stephen Miller. They will hold some state and local power, but overall a minority party as they have no policies that can attract a wider voter base. You can't be a party based on racism, ignorance and hate and be successful after trump.
Polybius
(15,385 posts)I have no doubt that we'll see another Republican President by 2028.
Cyrano
(15,035 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)would have easily defeated Carter
Polybius
(15,385 posts)Trust me, people said that. It also was heavily said right here about Bush in 2008.
Midnight Writer
(21,745 posts)If I had a dollar for every time I heard the Republican Party is finished and another dollar for every time I heard Trump is screwed, I would have so much money I would have to vote Republican to protect my tax cuts.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Think of the Exodus story of Moses and the Children of Israel wandering the desert for 40 years. Some theologians interpret that story to mean that the entire generation of slaves had to die off before the new generation could enter the promised land, with no direct memory of being slaves.
This entire generation of Republicans needs to die off before the party can be taken seriously on the political scene.
RainCaster
(10,866 posts)He will own the GOP until he loses social media privileges in prison. No phone, no internet. Once that happens, we can start to reeducate the hate out of all those lost souls.
dawg
(10,624 posts)Remember when being conservative meant favoring existing norms, values, and traditions, and being opposed to sudden and dramatic changes to those norms? Remember when it meant respect for the rule of law, and for holding leaders to high standards of personal morality and ethics?
Yeah, I don't remember those days either. But they should try to get back to them anyway.
As much as I support our side, and know that there's a real need for change in this country, I don't doubt the possiblity that we might be tempted to push too far, too fast without an effective counterbalance to slow us down. I think a healthy Republican party would be good for the country in the long-term, but I don't see a path for them to get there with the deluded voter-base they have cultivated over the last fifty years.
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)ooky
(8,922 posts)Trump's supporters are a bunch of hardcore Fox News watchers who watch nothing else and willingly accept anything they are told as absolute truth. They are lied to 24-7 and live in a different reality. However Fox News decides to handle the aftermath, the Trump sheep herd will follow right along, because Fox News is their reality.
kentuck
(111,079 posts)Trump doesn't blame FOX for his loss?
ooky
(8,922 posts)Doesn't matter. These people will turn on their TVs the morning after to connect to their world again. When they do, they will be turning on Fox News to be told how to process it all.
Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)Aristus
(66,316 posts)They never, ever learn from the abysmal fuckups of the shatteringly incompetent shitheads they maneuver into the Oval Office. Once the country has sobered up and regained its senses, and we have eight years of Democratic re-building under our belts, the pukes go prospecting for an even more lousy, squalid, underachieving, hate-filled, hapless, dunderhead to nominate.
Nothing about the GOP right now can convince me they're going to do anything other than double-down on their own fecklessness. Their one challenge is finding someone even more incomprehensibly worthless than Trump.
WhoWoodaKnew
(847 posts)Tea Party. MAGA. QAnon.
They just always re-brand themselves. Same shit. Different decade.
Le Roi de Pot
(744 posts)But it flew away !
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Javaman
(62,517 posts)I see the repukes splitting into two parties. Those that supported Biden aka traitors to the hardcore nuts and the maga hardcore racist nuts.
they will be a purity test among the rank and file repukes, those who fail will be banished to the center and those who pass will get a nazi armband.
then you will also have a small but vocal contingent of the nuts the qanon brownshirts. they will be the ones cracking the whip to make sure they stay crazy and in the political woods for the foreseeable future.
ooky
(8,922 posts)There will be different factions within the party of course, but Fox News (which is the Republican Party) will immediately begin reunification efforts behind a new leader. Trump will fade away (white evangelicals will have no more use for him when it becomes evident he really wasn't the "chosen one" after all) and a new leader who supports abortion and Israel and appeals to the rich will emerge.
rusty fender
(3,428 posts)Party picked itself up after GWBush? Tea Party. Like a zombie, it will continue to drag us down with ever more ugliness and obstruction of progress
pwb
(11,261 posts)I want them to stay down.
aidbo
(2,328 posts)Or use the old Trump was never a real republican excuse.
The media will play along and will write fawning essays about the new & different compassionate republicans who just want to take your social security away and to moderately discriminate against black and brown people. And quietly derail any efforts to mitigate climate change.
Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)Not by cheating, but actually getting the support of the majority of voters.
pecosbob
(7,537 posts)They turned down this road in 1980 with Reagan's people trading arms for hostages to push the election in his favor and have never looked back.
Leith
(7,809 posts)They may try, but not all conservatives are the far reichwing radicals the pledged their lives to a tin-plated messiah. Just most of them.
I still hold to the belief that anyone who became or remained a rethug throughout the 1990s is damaged goods. Sorry to Nicole Wallace and Steve Schmidt, but you wholeheartedly followed the political party of Newt Gingrich, Bill Barr, Ken Starr, Henry Hyde, Rick Santorum, on and on ad nauseam, but you have to acknowledge that stain before you can wash it clean.