I am not an anti-vaxer by any means.. but I will NOT be taking the COVID-19

[Peacetrain]

vaccination if it came from Russia, or their distribution satellite's.. I am more than a little suspicious of this vaccine and how fast it supposedly is going to be here.. the only entity that I know that has a vaccine ready to go is Russia..

[lark]

1. Be wary of Astra Zenecas version, drumpf invested heavily in it.

If that's the one that comes out first, I may wait for a different version. They are also the ones that had the major infection during trials, but started the trials back up quickly. Maybe nothing nefarious was involved, but it does raise questions and given the investors, I just hope and pray it's a different company - one with zero Russian or drumpf ties.

[Thekaspervote]

2. I won't take a vaccine that comes available while this administration is in place

Not really concerned about it, because it isn’t going to happen!

[lame54]

3. Ah, C'mon - It's the Trump Steaks of Vaccines

[BlueIdaho]

4. I will let science lead the way.

When the non-government, peer reviewed research says the vaccine is ready, I’ll start paying attention. But I still won’t be the first in line.

[RKP5637]

6. I say let the MAGA dopes try it first!!! n/t

[RKP5637]

5. I have some good face masks, they will keep me away from the vaccine for sometime until really

proven safe and effective. I am not an anti-vaxer by any means either.

[fierywoman]

7. Let Barron and FLOTITS try it first.

[empedocles]

10. Haven't seen that one yet

[empedocles]

11. Haven't seen that one yet

[fierywoman]

16. It's from Bette Midler.

[dawg day]

8. I'm getting a little less excited about a vaccine anyway, as it sounds like--

50-70% effectiveness.
That's about what the flu vaccine is, I guess, and I get that every year.

And I will get a Covid vaccine when I'm sure it's relatively safe (like at the current flu vaccine safety level). I remember that swine flu shot in the 70s which had some serious (though rare) side effects and needed two shots and had to be withdrawn before I got the second shot. So I had all the risk and none of the protection.

I don't trust one word out of Trump's mouth, and he's so completely corrupted the CDC that I don't believe them either.

The head of Moderna, btw, said they're proceeding well with the vaccine trials, but, "We already have a vaccine. It's called wearing a mask."

So I'm going to concentrate on that until more info comes out about the vaccine trials. I'm abs with you on nothing from Russia. Putin will probably taint it with Novichok poison.

[Disaffected]

12. "50-70% effectiveness"

Source? A little too soon for such claims??

[dawg day]

13. Fauci "might be only 50-60% effective"- It was on NPR- link below

This says it will still be effective (and far safer than Trump's "herd immunity&quot because it will slow the spread, and the disease might be milder even if you aren't immune.
I'm not clear on whether we'd know if it worked for us? I mean, if I knew that I was now immune, I'd figure I could do without the mask and go to a restaurant and all...
but if there's no way to know, I wouldn't feel confident. (Probably best-- should wear a mask anyway).


https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/09/12/911987987/a-covid-19-vaccine-may-be-only-50-effective-is-that-good-enough

[Disaffected]

20. "might be"

is the key phrase. Could be a lot greater than 50-60 or, a lot less. We won't know until phase 3 trials completed (and even then, maybe not for certain till a lot later).

Agreed about mask wearing - has additional benefits regards colds and flu susceptibility. Myself, I'm getting used to wearing one (after a while you forget it's there) and am glad it's illegal here to appear in a public indoor space w/o a mask. I think east Asians may have one up on us here.

[dawg day]

24. I actually had a nightmare about going on a trip and forgetting the mask

Of course, I have 5 in my car and 3 in my purse, so it's unlikely to happen. But it's funny what shows up in dreams!

[Disaffected]

26. Heh,

I have four in my car now - two N95s and a couple of the blue "surgical" masks I picked up at medical service locations that made you use their masks no matter what you brought with you (which bummed me a little as the N95s are better).

[crimycarny]

14. CDC Director is the source

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/16/cdc-director-says-face-masks-may-provide-more-protection-than-coronavirus-vaccine-.html

[Ms. Toad]

22. I don't get the flu vaccine - partly because it has has exceeded 50% effectiveness only once

since 2011-12, and only 4 times since 2004-05. The average effectiveness is around 40%.

My threshold for getting the COVID 19 vaccine is a predicted 50% effectiveness (plus solid research supporting safety and effectiveness).

COVID 19 is different from influenze (1) more likly to produce long-term consequences (2) more deadly (3) more contagious and (4) less likely to vary enough from year to year so that it is subject to the predictive failures that are responsible for the poor effectiveness of the influenza vaccine.

I'd like it to be closer to the 90+% effectiveness of measles, polio, tetanus (to name a few). But because of (1) - (4) above I put it in the category with measles, polio, tetanus, etc., for which my efectiveness threshold for gettting the vaccine is far lower.

[LisaL]

27. I don't get the flu vaccine either.

But covid is more deadly than the flu. I will get covid vaccine if vaccine is fully tested as it is supposed to be.
I don't see that happening any time soon.

[beaglelover]

9. I'll wait until many have received it and it proves effective.

Essential workers should get it first if they want it. I can definitely wait.

[crimycarny]

15. My hopes still pinned on effective antiviral

1) Many in the pipeline for COVID that are already in use for other viruses (so safety is known)
2) Can be used post-exposure to prevent infection, like many HIV antivirals
3) Not as sensitive to virus mutations. Tamiflu released 20 years ago and still works against all mutations of influenza A and B strains.
4) Important for those whose immune systems may not evoke a big enough response to vaccine to protect them.

There is a cat vaccine for coronavirus that looks very promising against COVID in humans. Favipiravir is another hopeful candidate.

[Silent3]

17. Of course I'd be suspicious! My generally pro-vaccination position is based on...

...a history of careful development and solid scientific testing, done under the auspices of a reasonably non-compromised FDA and CDC.

None of that is assured right now.

As a benefit/risk trade-off, I'd even be willing to take a COVID vaccine that's developed a bit faster than usual, and even with some corner-cutting, because COVID is panning out to have about a 5% mortality rate, and some nasty long-lasting effects for many survivors too, so that has to be balanced against hunting down every possible one-in-million negative reaction to a vaccine.

But a vaccine released as soon as November, under the Trump administration!? No way!

Early to mid 2021, under Biden, however, and I'll definitely consider it.

[Demsrule86]

18. I won't either...anything Trump comes out with is suspect too IMHO.

[lunatica]

19. I'll be staying home, safe distancing and wearing a mask in public

I’m very fortunate to be able to stay home. I’m retired and somewhat of a hermit.

Nothing coming from Trump is passing my smell test.

[Klaralven]

21. Maybe the Chinese one that's been given to the People's Liberation Army

That should be a big enough sample size and enough time in Phase 3 trial.

[JCMach1]

23. From where I sit in Day 3 of quarantine, I would take it in a heart beat

...

My wife tested positive.

When it hits your family, or you see the horror that's coming this Fall, let's talk.

[steve2470]

25. whatever vaccine Dr. Fauci vouches for, I will take, asap nt