Seriously-Calm the fuck down!!-There is zero time to do this before election!!

[NewsCenter28]

There will be no senate hearings even on this before the election. There is simply no time. Average confirmation time is around 60 days at best! These senators also want to be campaigning in an election year not stuck in DC on Halloween! Also, do you seriously think Toad will nominate someone next week and McConnell get him approved the week after? Not. Gonna. Happen. Do you seriously think Ernst, Romney, Tillis and Collins will allow a power grab?? Smarten up!

Now, more importantly, RIP to RBG, one of the best SCOTUS appointees ever and a marvellous human being!

[dalton99a]

1. McConnell can have ANY Senate rule changed by simple majority.

[sfstaxprep]

2. January 20

They have until December 31 to confirm someone, that can be in before Biden even takes office on January 20, 2021.

[BlueTsunami2018]

3. Just watch.

They’ll ram someone through tomorrow.

[NewsCenter28]

11. No they won't

This is blatant fear-mongering. 6 weeks before Graham even holds a Judiciary hearing minimum! I've seen this play out for decades!

[BlueTsunami2018]

24. I'm sorry but all the "norms" are gone.

We’re in uncharted waters.

And it doesn’t matter, there will be a full on right wing nut on the court before the end of the year.

[dustyscamp]

60. 1+ people who still think the cons will play by the rules are hilariously dumb

[Codeine]

30. Excuse me? Since when are the old norms in play?

Senate rules are set by the Senate majority. They can get this done in virtually no time.

[TwilightZone]

32. But you apparently haven't been paying attention for the past four years.

Precedent went out the window when Trump was elected. That should be blatantly obvious by now.

McConnell is on the record stating that he would push a nominee through in this very situation.

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

53. Nothing is normal about any of this.

They've broken every unwritten rule in government that they could, and they've done it with a wink and a smile.

They'll seat someone before October is done.

[Renew Deal]

56. Hearings don't really matter

They can vote to end them almost whenever they want. The senate works off of a combination of decency and power. Power is more powerful than decency.

This could be wrapped by the end of September if they want.

[demtenjeep]

59. bullshit

it starts tomorrow



if turtle is not already making calls

[a kennedy]

98. The turtle was on the phone the minute RBG took her last breath.....

[USALiberal]

84. Bookmarked! nt

[Codeine]

100. Didn't even need to save the bookmark for long! nt

[Codeine]

99. Six weeks minimum?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142590304

You blasted a lot of people and made a lot of confident, dismissive declarations that aren’t aging well. Hopefully you’ll learn from this.

[USALiberal]

105. LOL, ok! nt

[dalton99a]

13. Exactly. They can have a new justice sworn in by next week.

[NewsCenter28]

22. This is flat out alarmism and fear-mongering.

N/T

[dalton99a]

33. Why are you assuming Senate Republicans are honorable people when they are NOT?

[uponit7771]

41. ... or the giving or the benefit of the doubt without it being earned ?! omfg, come on people !!!

200,000 Americans are dead and there's still people talking about what these evil scumbags wont do !!!

[uponit7771]

28. +1, I'm gob smacked at what people think these enablers of murdering 200,000 Americans wont do

[dubyadiprecession]

35. That might turn into outrage in Kentucky.

Turtle man could lose his seat then.

[BlueTsunami2018]

52. I hate to be super doom and gloom but there's no way he's losing his seat.

He’s ahead by a significant margin.

[Codeine]

66. Nope. Best thing that could happen for him.

Energize a flagging base. Get all the Christofascists tumescent.

[RockRaven]

4. McTurtle only cares about power. His grip on power is threatened by waiting.

They will ram this through in the next 30 to 40 days.

[mcar]

5. Plenty of time to do it before Jan 20, 2021

[demtenjeep]

6. yes

yes

[TwilightZone]

7. There's plenty of time.

They have until January. If you think McConnell won't drop everything to ram through a judge, you're about the only one who believes so.

Trump announced a list last week. He knew this was probably coming. I pretty much guarantee they're set and ready to go, sadly.

[drray23]

8. they dont need time.

what makes you think McConnel wont break all conventions and just call for a vote ? The constitution does not specify the process, just that the senate confirms.

[Codeine]

19. Exactly. nt

[Girard442]

67. Exactly. We could have a new right-wing justice by midnight.

Plenty of time to have someone in place to rubber-stamp Trump's emergency suspension of the election.

[mindfulNJ]

9. But can't they do it in the lame duck session?

Even if Biden wins he doesn't take office until January. I don't see how we get around having another Nazi on the SCOTUS. FUUUUCKKKK!!!!

[liberal N proud]

10. But they can ram it through befor the end of the year

[Codeine]

12. They've got plenty of time.

They can fast track it. Don’t be naive.

[Proud liberal 80]

14. I agree but

I am afraid about after the election even with a Biden win

[bmpbmp]

15. Disagree

This is what the gop has dreamed about for the last 50 years, a clear majority. Getting to 6-3 is more important to them than keeping the senate, or trump staying in power. This is the end all for them. They will make it happen, hell or high water.

[SlogginThroughIt]

16. Seriously you believe that?

Of course they can and will get it done.

[Kali]

17. theoretically they have until Jan 20, don't they?

they are scumbags and I have no doubt they are fully set to go on this, they have been waiting like the carrion-feeding vultures they are.

[leftieNanner]

39. January 3

Is when the new DEMOCRATIC Senate will be sworn in.

[Kali]

45. god damn I hope so

thanks

[Thekaspervote]

43. No, they have until Jan 3 if we take the senate. The new congress takes up on Jan 3

[Kali]

48. got it, thanks

[In It to Win It]

18. They may not do it before the election... but they will do it. Either way, it's gonna happen

[uponit7771]

20. NO !! Everyone needs to get bucket naked, put on a blue speedo and run around their houses

... with a football helmet and cowboy boots.

This is serious, another justice before the election means the election goes to Trump ... WHEN ... it goes to the courts.

[TwilightZone]

21. Ernst is already giddy about voting for a new justice.

I think you're giving the Rs too much credit. Outside of Romney, I think every one of them is a guaranteed up vote.

[NewsCenter28]

34. With time yes but not in a kangaroo process

No way. They lose everything if they do this.

[TwilightZone]

47. They don't care.

Packing the courts was the long game. There is zero chance they will pass on that opportunity even if it means losing the Senate. At this point, they probably think it's already lost anyway so they have nothing to lose.

[jcgoldie]

74. Murkowski said she wont

Collins and Tillis probably be signing their death warrant if it happened before election.

[TwilightZone]

78. Thanks, I meant to exclude Murkowski.

She was a no on Kavanaugh and I figured she might take a stand here, as well. I'm glad to see she has.

Collins is probably toast anyway and will likely follow the party line. If she couldn't even vote no on Frat Boy, she won't likely have a problem with a less problematic nominee.

[In It to Win It]

23. They could nominate someone but not hold any hearing until after the election

[NewsCenter28]

38. That is possible-I'm talking about before the election

N/T

[leftieNanner]

25. I sure as hell hope you are right!

I would not put it past Mitch to cram one in during the lame duck session. Even, or especially if the Republicans lose.

[dem4decades]

26. They will do it.

[Stinky The Clown]

27. I disagree. McConnell can ABSOLUTELY get it done.

[LizBeth]

29. Corrupt, criminal, crooked.

[Happy Hoosier]

31. No way McTurtle doesn't do this.

He creamed his pants when he heard the news.

[demtenjeep]

63. yes he did

probably pouring champagne right now

[Hoyt]

36. The best way to minimize the damage is to vote. Mourn RBG, but kick their

rears at the polls, and by supporting Democrats.

[lapfog_1]

37. The electoral college doesn't vote until December

and that vote elects the President.

[Ms. Toad]

40. He doesn't have to.

He has until January 20.

[Thekaspervote]

62. No, the new Congress convenes on Jan 3. So, if we have the senate they have until then

Doesn’t mean they won’t appoint another justice, they will. They still have 80 days

We have to increase the number of justices

[dalton99a]

69. Democrats MUST kill the filibuster and expand the court to reverse the damage

[Ms. Toad]

70. So you're just shortening it to Jan 3?

That's still sufficient time for them to ram a replacement through. And Trump is still there until January 20, so the date is still January 20 (although the danger will decrease after January 3, depending on who is elected to the senate).

[hamsterjill]

42. I wish people on this board would stop telling the rest of us to calm down.

No, I will not calm down. My rights as a woman, my daughter’s rights and the rights of generations of woman to come just died with that beloved woman.

I will NOT calm down. Do you not realize WHAT is at stake here?

[NewsCenter28]

49. You're giving up though

And saying all hope is lost.

[hamsterjill]

57. What would you have me do?

What would you have me do?

[Codeine]

71. And you're being ridiculous

with your silly assertions about “six weeks before a judiciary hearing is even called.” Stop with your nonsense.

[hamsterjill]

87. Thank you!

Seriously. Thank you. I needed that support right now.

[Codeine]

88. I have a gay 16yr old daughter.

I despair for her future right now. At this moment people can take their “Stiff upper lip” happy-talk bullshit and stick it right up their white asses. Shit just got real. Real bad.

[hamsterjill]

90. Agreed completely.

I really grow weary of the “don’t be negative”, “calm down”, “quit whining”, “the polls say Biden is ahead”.

Did these people not live through 2016? Do they not get that Republicans cheat and are going to try anything to appeal to their stupid base? Do they not understand that Trump is desperate? He’s fighting for his life. He’s either going to jail if he loses or Putin will have him killed to keep him from saying something he shouldn’t if he loses.

[mvd]

54. I agree

I feel like just causing all out disruption in the Senate if they do anything. So sad and scared right now that maybe I should take a little break from DU.

[Bettie]

44. He probably nominated someone

already.

And Moscow Mitch will simply get them all back and demand that they vote with no hearings.

He can just stop debate at any time...which means he can choose no debate.

When did rules or norms ever matter to these guys?

[napi21]

46. I heard on CNN that DT already anticipated this happening & he has a lot of the prep work like

background investigations etc. has been done. I'm POSITIVE McTurtle will try!

[TwilightZone]

51. He knew. That's why the list was released.

[rockfordfile]

65. She was 87.

[TwilightZone]

68. My point is that he knew this was the end.

The timing of the release of the list is not a coincidence.

[Autumn]

55. Do you really think Bitch McConnell and Trump will play by the rules? If you think Ernst, Romney,

Tillis and Collins will not jump to confirm any fucking Republican to her seat I have a nice bridge for sale. Really you are depending on them to do the right thing? Not going to happen.

[smirkymonkey]

61. +1000

I am sick to my stomach. I really think I am going to throw up.

[Autumn]

64. I already threw up. It didn't help.

[bdamomma]

81. I have

a headache now. We all need to vote and stick together.

[smirkymonkey]

85. Yes, that too.

I have rubbed Ben Gay all over my neck, temples, forehead. My head is throbbing.

I will definitely vote and we must all definitely stick together, bdamomma.

[bdamomma]

86. We all need

to breathe deep and move forward. Geez, we lost John Lewis and now Justice Ginsburg. So sad.

[russiamommy]

58. They have plenty of time

Even if the Dems take the White House and Senate the current senate is in place until January 3.

[PTWB]

72. They may not do it before the election but they absolutely will appoint a justice before 2021.

Why would they not? Politically they may decide it is better to wait until immediately after the election - to fire up their base and depress ours - but there is ZERO chance that Trump will not fill RBG’s seat.

Row v. Wade is gone.

[helpisontheway]

73. Yeah right..they will push this through PLUS they will use it to motivate

their base. The republicans that planned to vote for Biden might tilt back to Trump .

[Rice4VP]

75. They can do it after the election

The only thing that will stop it is 4 Republican Senators voting with the Dems

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

76. It'll be done after the election

But before the new Congress is sworn in.

[RedSpartan]

77. Have courage.

This puts ENORMOUS pressure on Romney, Collins, Murkowski, and any republican senators in a close race, like NC, MT, CO, even GA. Never underestimate the evil of Mitch McConnell, but pushing through a new appointment will not be so easy.

[Bettie]

79. Do you really think that Moscow Mitch or any other Republican in the Senate

has enough ethics to fill a thimble?

DO you really believe there is anything they won't do?

Because my guess is by Wednesday we'll have someone truly awful sitting in RBG's seat, salivating over all the damage they can do to our nation in the name of religion and money.

[The Genealogist]

80. I'll just echo what others have said. This is bad. Very bad

They've waited decades to make that court into a true rubber stamp for their heinous agenda. If they had someone in there by 10/1, I'd not be a bit surprised. If Dotard gets slammed in this election, they're going to want a court that will make sure he stays in.

[Buckeyeblue]

82. I agree. It's too late in the fall to get it through before the election.

Now what happens in November after the election is something different altogether.

[roamer65]

83. If McTurtle tries to shove it through, we will pack the court.

[Crunchy Frog]

89. They absolutely will. They've been salivating over this for four years.

You'd better believe that they've already got the wheels in motion.

[hamsterjill]

91. So have you read McConnell's statement now?

And do you still want to tell us to calm down?

SMH...

[Retrograde]

92. Plenty of time between Nov. 4 and Jan. 3

and I do not trust any GOP senator to have a backbone

[napi21]

95. One small hope. If we take back the Senate the new Senators take office 1/3/21.

[BumRushDaShow]

93. It was written and it will be done

Link to tweet

TEXT

Leader McConnell
@senatemajldr
The Senate and the nation mourn the passing of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and the conclusion of her extraordinary American life.

My full statement:
Image
8:55 PM · Sep 18, 2020

That's how they roll.

[Codeine]

94. Then they'll do it after the election.

What’s the fucking difference?

[DSandra]

96. Cementing the destruction of secularism would take priority for them

[Polybius]

97. Perhaps, but...

There is plenty of time before January to do it. It's no better if they confirm someone on December 16th over October 31th.

[USALiberal]

101. Smarten up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Self delete! nt

[USALiberal]

102. We will see! nt

[Codeine]

103. Smarten up!

Stop lecturing.

[USALiberal]

104. +1000! nt

[Codeine]

106. How'd this one work out for ya, Sparky?

Being wrong is fine.

Being aggressively wrong? Not so much.

[USALiberal]

107. So true! Nt