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Romney says NO... (Original Post) pbmus Sep 2020 OP
I knew he would. Now we need 3 more (not the one from months ago) Claustrum Sep 2020 #1
Murkowski is a No. She has a few principles, I believe that she will hold. nt Blue_true Sep 2020 #5
No until after the inauguration? Or No until after the election... JHB Sep 2020 #23
She wants the next President seated first. nt Blue_true Sep 2020 #26
She said no lame duck vote rpannier Sep 2020 #70
Kelly becomes the Senator elect after November 3rd, if he wins. grantcart Sep 2020 #28
OMG thats right. There is a path forward. onetexan Sep 2020 #55
Well, that's good news. LisaM Sep 2020 #60
I am relaying something written in AZ Republic, it will depend on the precise writing of grantcart Sep 2020 #68
In January 2010, when Scott Brown was elected, the Democrats agreed karynnj Sep 2020 #63
I want to hear it from Romney himself but I will take any good new right now. nt Statistical Sep 2020 #2
ROMNEY COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR: Reports that Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT) will NOT vote to confirm a Celerity Sep 2020 #58
Hope colsohlibgal Sep 2020 #3
+1000 smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #4
3 defections and they still get a simple majority ruling, with Pence the tie breaker Baclava Sep 2020 #6
romney makes 5 orleans Sep 2020 #29
Zero zero zero way Grassley and Graham stick AleksS Sep 2020 #37
Collins wont either. She likes to dress otherwise, but Volaris Sep 2020 #65
Romney just came out and said the report him voting NO was a lie Baclava Sep 2020 #40
where did you see that? i don't have cable n/t orleans Sep 2020 #42
Twitter, where else? lol Baclava Sep 2020 #49
Up thread a few posts from his com director mahina Sep 2020 #64
None of these are statements from today, correct? Salviati Sep 2020 #41
cnn had it up n/t orleans Sep 2020 #44
And lindsey's quote is from 2018... Salviati Sep 2020 #52
he voted to impeach trump so it only makes sense AlexSFCA Sep 2020 #7
He is popular enough in Utah, and Trump unpopular enough, that he doesn't spooky3 Sep 2020 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Stuart G Sep 2020 #8
Mitt is public enemy #1 to the Trumpsters right now. Initech Sep 2020 #9
I'll wait to celebrate until I see an announcement from Romney himself. scarletwoman Sep 2020 #10
Celebrating is not a good idea... Eyeball_Kid Sep 2020 #17
Exactly. LudwigPastorius Sep 2020 #33
All the Repugs up for reelection should be the targets-- Collins Hassler Sep 2020 #11
Grassley has said no..possibly Warner from NC? Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #12
Mark Warner is a Democrat from Virginia. To whom are you referring? nt spooky3 Sep 2020 #16
Tillis is the NC Senator up for reelection and he is a trump toady. n/t mtngirl47 Sep 2020 #20
TheKaspervote.... Upthevibe Sep 2020 #30
Don't listen to Jim Dabakis. He's a nutty guy. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #13
So it comes down to who trump/mcconnell can "sell" to the predisposed "no" votes. bmpbmp Sep 2020 #14
we need to put pressure on as many possible no votes as possible! Tribalceltic Sep 2020 #15
Tribalceltic... Upthevibe Sep 2020 #32
Two more are needed Warpy Sep 2020 #19
My money is not on Collins's continued concerns. Her concerns tend to have a short life. marble falls Sep 2020 #21
Chuck Grassley and Lindsey Graham have said in the past: crickets Sep 2020 #22
I'll believe it when I see it. Louise Mensch and Jim Danakis JDC Sep 2020 #24
Romney's comm. director says that is "grossly false" DesertRat Sep 2020 #25
got a link? n/t orleans Sep 2020 #35
Yes, he does. It's the tweet. From Romney's communications Director. JHB Sep 2020 #38
Wait...wut?? I just breathed the best sigh of relief I've had in weeks, if not more... BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2020 #45
The link is the tweet in my post. nt DesertRat Sep 2020 #56
sorry -- i didn't make that connection. too preoccupied tonight i guess. orleans Sep 2020 #61
I hear you. DesertRat Sep 2020 #69
Wow... wth happened to Romney?! Cha Sep 2020 #27
He still wants to be the GOP nominee for president in 2024. LudwigPastorius Sep 2020 #46
We don't know whether anything has happened to him... JHB Sep 2020 #57
I read that after I posted.. & I posted like that Cha Sep 2020 #62
Grassley and Murkowski have said they won't confirm until after inauguration. Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #31
+2 Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2020 #48
WOW.. I hope turtle head doesn't try to Cha Sep 2020 #51
are there any quotes from them today? Salviati Sep 2020 #54
What Will Sen. Collins Say? n/t DallasNE Sep 2020 #34
see my upthread post 29 n/t orleans Sep 2020 #36
Excellent news Hekate Sep 2020 #39
I'm actually for real breathing a sigh of relief! BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2020 #43
Need three? More Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2020 #47
Ok have three...that makes it 50-50 right? 15 gop senators Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2020 #50
"Lying for The Lord" is his religion's motto. czarjak Sep 2020 #53
+1 Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2020 #66
I don't trust Mitt on this. DirkLerxst Sep 2020 #59
NEVER Trust a Republican! hamsterjill Sep 2020 #67
He's an asshole but right now he's our ass hole. nt Susan Calvin Sep 2020 #71

JHB

(37,152 posts)
23. No until after the inauguration? Or No until after the election...
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:17 PM
Sep 2020

...leaving wiggle room during the Lame Duck session?

Big difference. Moreso if she holds to it.

rpannier

(24,328 posts)
70. She said no lame duck vote
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:49 PM
Sep 2020

Biden wins, she will not support a new justice
Trump wins, he's not a lame duck

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
28. Kelly becomes the Senator elect after November 3rd, if he wins.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:20 PM
Sep 2020

The election is to fill a temporary appointment and not the beginning of a new term

Kelly has to run again in 2 years.

AZ Republic has an article on the subject but it is behind a paywall.

LisaM

(27,792 posts)
60. Well, that's good news.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:01 AM
Sep 2020

I didn't realize that (I mean, I knew that it was a temporary appointment, but I didn't realize it ended on Election Day). That's good news.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
68. I am relaying something written in AZ Republic, it will depend on the precise writing of
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:13 AM
Sep 2020

AZ law, but I would assume that once AZ Sec of State certifies the election result McSally would no longer be the temporary Senator.

There is also an election in GA to fill a temp appointment.

karynnj

(59,495 posts)
63. In January 2010, when Scott Brown was elected, the Democrats agreed
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 02:46 AM
Sep 2020

That they could not rush through a vote in the Senate on a Senate House conference version of the ACA having the appointed SEnator Kirk as the 60th vote after Brown won, but before he was elected. Instead the House had to pass the already passed Senate bill.

Celerity

(43,070 posts)
58. ROMNEY COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR: Reports that Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT) will NOT vote to confirm a
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:43 PM
Sep 2020
Trump Supreme Court nominee are “GROSSLY FALSE”


colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
3. Hope
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:16 PM
Sep 2020

There are republicans in a pickle as to what to do. We just need a few maybe just maybe we can save this pick for Joe.

If not, if Hypocrite Mitch rams one through all bets are off. We play nice they kneecap us. No more if that happens.

orleans

(34,040 posts)
29. romney makes 5
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:34 PM
Sep 2020

IF you trust them
from cnn:
Here is a list of four Republicans senators who have said they will oppose a vote before the election:

Maine Sen. Susan Collins told the New York Times, “I think that’s too close, I really do."

Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski in September said, "Fair is fair," and she would not vote to replace RBG before the election."

South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham in October 2018 said, "If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump's term, and the primary process has started, we'll wait to the next election. And I've got a pretty good chance of being the Judiciary [Chairman]. Hold the tape."

Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley said in July he would follow the Biden rule, "I'm just following what was established by the Biden Rule in 1986 and then emphasized by him in 1992... They set the pattern. I didn't set the pattern. But it was very legitimate that you can't have one rule for Democratic presidents and another rule for Republican presidents."


https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/ruth-bader-ginsburg-death-live-updates/h_73403b4eaf42724ec9db79154591d223

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
37. Zero zero zero way Grassley and Graham stick
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:46 PM
Sep 2020

to their words.

They wear their hypocrisy like a badge.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
41. None of these are statements from today, correct?
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:59 PM
Sep 2020

I'd trust any hypothetical musings from months ago about as much as trump in a pageant contest dressing room...

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
52. And lindsey's quote is from 2018...
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:16 PM
Sep 2020

grassley's is from July. The other two are undated. I'm sure as hell not going to trust their musings about some hypothetical situation. I'd be interested to hear what they say now that the situations not hypothetical, but I likely still wouldn't trust them until their vote is in the record.

spooky3

(34,401 posts)
18. He is popular enough in Utah, and Trump unpopular enough, that he doesn't
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:57 PM
Sep 2020

run much of a risk standing up to Trump.

Response to pbmus (Original post)

LudwigPastorius

(9,095 posts)
33. Exactly.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:40 PM
Sep 2020

Romney has said that Roe v. Wade should be overturned since 2007, and I'm sure he'd want to maintain his anti-choice bona fides if he's thinking about winning another election.

On the other hand, he would be 76 years old leading up to the next presidential race, no spring chicken, even for a teetotaling Mormon.

He could actually take this opportunity to stick it to Trump, but despite his impeachment vote, he's not particularly known for his intestinal fortitude.

I think it's a 50/50 proposition, at best, whether he'll stand up to McConnell.

Hassler

(3,369 posts)
11. All the Repugs up for reelection should be the targets-- Collins
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:52 PM
Sep 2020

Phony Joni, Gardner, McSally, Daines. Probably not Lindseed since he'll say anything to get reelected, then flip if he wins. Gardner, Collins and maybe McSally seem the obvious choices as they are in states Biden will win.

Upthevibe

(8,009 posts)
30. TheKaspervote....
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:34 PM
Sep 2020

Where did you hear that Grassley has said no? If he's a no, and Romney's a no and Murkowski has said no....How many more would we need?

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
13. Don't listen to Jim Dabakis. He's a nutty guy.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:54 PM
Sep 2020

He can be funny - and I actually voted for him for mayor when he ran last year (but lost in the primary) but he's not credible. He makes shit up.

bmpbmp

(310 posts)
14. So it comes down to who trump/mcconnell can "sell" to the predisposed "no" votes.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:54 PM
Sep 2020

Those current "no"'s will be negotiable.

Upthevibe

(8,009 posts)
32. Tribalceltic...
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:37 PM
Sep 2020

I agree but how? How do we put pressure on and to whom? We KNOW McConnell is evil and isn't one to be dealt with....

crickets

(25,951 posts)
22. Chuck Grassley and Lindsey Graham have said in the past:
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:15 PM
Sep 2020


In July, Chuck Grassley said he would not process a nomination to the Supreme Court in 2020 if he were still chairman of the Judiciary Committee.


Grassley is no longer chair. Lindsey Graham is.

https://qctimes.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/grassley-ernst-split-on-how-to-proceed-if-supreme-court-vacation-occurs-before-election/article_539416db-0cf9-57bd-8204-110e764a2b49.html

“That’ll be up to his decision because he’s chairman now, but I would have to tell him that I wouldn’t have a hearing,” Grassley said. Even if Graham would hold a hearing on a Trump nominee this year, there’s no guarantee it would come to the floor before the election, Grassley added.




LINDSEY GRAHAM on March 10, 2016:

“I want you to use my words against me. If there’s a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say Lindsey Graham said let’s let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination."




[Oct 2018] Sen. Lindsey Graham justifies his treatment of Merrick Garland: "If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump's term, and the primary process has started, we'll wait to the next election"


For whatever it's worth, there's some past background on how two other Senators have stated they would behave.

JHB

(37,152 posts)
38. Yes, he does. It's the tweet. From Romney's communications Director.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:47 PM
Sep 2020

Liz Johnson
@LJ0hnson
Communications Director for @SenatorRomney
. Maine girl, Pats fan, amateur photog. Tweets = my own.

https://twitter.com/LJ0hnson

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
45. Wait...wut?? I just breathed the best sigh of relief I've had in weeks, if not more...
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:03 PM
Sep 2020

This isn’t welcome news.

orleans

(34,040 posts)
61. sorry -- i didn't make that connection. too preoccupied tonight i guess.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:11 AM
Sep 2020

and by preoccupied i mean exhausted from crying over our tremendous loss.

LudwigPastorius

(9,095 posts)
46. He still wants to be the GOP nominee for president in 2024.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:06 PM
Sep 2020

...more than he wants to stick it to Trump again.

JHB

(37,152 posts)
57. We don't know whether anything has happened to him...
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:43 PM
Sep 2020

His communications director is tweeting that the reported pledge is false (see upthread). Nothing from Mitt himself yet.

Cha

(296,778 posts)
62. I read that after I posted.. & I posted like that
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:39 AM
Sep 2020

because I remember Romney from his 2012 campaign when Steve Benen categorized volumes of Lies & Gaslighting from Mitt about Pres Obama.

So we shall see.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
54. are there any quotes from them today?
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:18 PM
Sep 2020

I don't trust their musings about hypothetical situations from weeks to months ago.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
50. Ok have three...that makes it 50-50 right? 15 gop senators
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:11 PM
Sep 2020

On record from 2016 saying they wouldn't confirm in election year.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
67. NEVER Trust a Republican!
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:44 AM
Sep 2020

Learn, people! Please.

It’ll be great if Romney, et al grow a conscience, but don’t ever count on it. Hope for it, yes. But do not bank on it.

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