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Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:09 PM

Romney says NO...


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Reply Romney says NO... (Original post)
pbmus Sep 18 OP
Claustrum Sep 18 #1
Blue_true Sep 18 #5
JHB Sep 18 #23
Blue_true Sep 18 #26
rpannier Sep 19 #70
grantcart Sep 18 #28
onetexan Sep 18 #55
LisaM Sep 19 #60
grantcart Sep 19 #68
karynnj Sep 19 #63
Statistical Sep 18 #2
Celerity Sep 18 #58
colsohlibgal Sep 18 #3
smirkymonkey Sep 18 #4
Baclava Sep 18 #6
orleans Sep 18 #29
AleksS Sep 18 #37
Volaris Sep 19 #65
Baclava Sep 18 #40
orleans Sep 18 #42
Baclava Sep 18 #49
mahina Sep 19 #64
Salviati Sep 18 #41
orleans Sep 18 #44
Salviati Sep 18 #52
AlexSFCA Sep 18 #7
spooky3 Sep 18 #18
Stuart G Sep 18 #8
Initech Sep 18 #9
scarletwoman Sep 18 #10
Eyeball_Kid Sep 18 #17
LudwigPastorius Sep 18 #33
Hassler Sep 18 #11
Thekaspervote Sep 18 #12
spooky3 Sep 18 #16
mtngirl47 Sep 18 #20
Upthevibe Sep 18 #30
Drunken Irishman Sep 18 #13
bmpbmp Sep 18 #14
Tribalceltic Sep 18 #15
Upthevibe Sep 18 #32
Warpy Sep 18 #19
marble falls Sep 18 #21
crickets Sep 18 #22
JDC Sep 18 #24
DesertRat Sep 18 #25
orleans Sep 18 #35
JHB Sep 18 #38
BlancheSplanchnik Sep 18 #45
DesertRat Sep 18 #56
orleans Sep 19 #61
DesertRat Sep 19 #69
Cha Sep 18 #27
LudwigPastorius Sep 18 #46
JHB Sep 18 #57
Cha Sep 19 #62
Demsrule86 Sep 18 #31
Laura PourMeADrink Sep 18 #48
Cha Sep 18 #51
Salviati Sep 18 #54
DallasNE Sep 18 #34
orleans Sep 18 #36
Hekate Sep 18 #39
BlancheSplanchnik Sep 18 #43
Laura PourMeADrink Sep 18 #47
Laura PourMeADrink Sep 18 #50
czarjak Sep 18 #53
Laura PourMeADrink Sep 19 #66
DirkLerxst Sep 18 #59
hamsterjill Sep 19 #67
Susan Calvin Sep 19 #71

Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:11 PM

1. I knew he would. Now we need 3 more (not the one from months ago)

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Response to Claustrum (Reply #1)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:28 PM

5. Murkowski is a No. She has a few principles, I believe that she will hold. nt

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #5)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:17 PM

23. No until after the inauguration? Or No until after the election...

...leaving wiggle room during the Lame Duck session?

Big difference. Moreso if she holds to it.

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Response to JHB (Reply #23)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:19 PM

26. She wants the next President seated first. nt

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Response to JHB (Reply #23)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:49 PM

70. She said no lame duck vote

Biden wins, she will not support a new justice
Trump wins, he's not a lame duck

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Response to Claustrum (Reply #1)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:20 PM

28. Kelly becomes the Senator elect after November 3rd, if he wins.

The election is to fill a temporary appointment and not the beginning of a new term

Kelly has to run again in 2 years.

AZ Republic has an article on the subject but it is behind a paywall.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #28)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:31 PM

55. OMG thats right. There is a path forward.

Thank u for pointing this out!

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Response to grantcart (Reply #28)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:01 AM

60. Well, that's good news.

I didn't realize that (I mean, I knew that it was a temporary appointment, but I didn't realize it ended on Election Day). That's good news.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #60)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:13 AM

68. I am relaying something written in AZ Republic, it will depend on the precise writing of

AZ law, but I would assume that once AZ Sec of State certifies the election result McSally would no longer be the temporary Senator.

There is also an election in GA to fill a temp appointment.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #28)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 02:46 AM

63. In January 2010, when Scott Brown was elected, the Democrats agreed

That they could not rush through a vote in the Senate on a Senate House conference version of the ACA having the appointed SEnator Kirk as the 60th vote after Brown won, but before he was elected. Instead the House had to pass the already passed Senate bill.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:15 PM

2. I want to hear it from Romney himself but I will take any good new right now. nt

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Response to Statistical (Reply #2)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:43 PM

58. ROMNEY COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR: Reports that Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT) will NOT vote to confirm a

Trump Supreme Court nominee are “GROSSLY FALSE”


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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:16 PM

3. Hope

There are republicans in a pickle as to what to do. We just need a few maybe just maybe we can save this pick for Joe.

If not, if Hypocrite Mitch rams one through all bets are off. We play nice they kneecap us. No more if that happens.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:25 PM

4. +1000

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:31 PM

6. 3 defections and they still get a simple majority ruling, with Pence the tie breaker

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Response to Baclava (Reply #6)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:34 PM

29. romney makes 5

IF you trust them
from cnn:
Here is a list of four Republicans senators who have said they will oppose a vote before the election:

Maine Sen. Susan Collins told the New York Times, “I think that’s too close, I really do."

Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski in September said, "Fair is fair," and she would not vote to replace RBG before the election."

South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham in October 2018 said, "If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump's term, and the primary process has started, we'll wait to the next election. And I've got a pretty good chance of being the Judiciary [Chairman]. Hold the tape."

Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley said in July he would follow the Biden rule, "I'm just following what was established by the Biden Rule in 1986 and then emphasized by him in 1992... They set the pattern. I didn't set the pattern. But it was very legitimate that you can't have one rule for Democratic presidents and another rule for Republican presidents."


https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/ruth-bader-ginsburg-death-live-updates/h_73403b4eaf42724ec9db79154591d223

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Response to orleans (Reply #29)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:46 PM

37. Zero zero zero way Grassley and Graham stick

to their words.

They wear their hypocrisy like a badge.

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Response to AleksS (Reply #37)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:38 AM

65. Collins wont either. She likes to dress otherwise, but

Nevermind. I dont wanna get banned.

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Response to orleans (Reply #29)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:58 PM

40. Romney just came out and said the report him voting NO was a lie

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Response to Baclava (Reply #40)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:00 PM

42. where did you see that? i don't have cable n/t

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Response to orleans (Reply #42)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:10 PM

49. Twitter, where else? lol

https://twitter.com/ReedReports

ROMNEY spokesman says report he won't confirm Supreme Court nominee "Grossly False"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiPcFUSWkAAXzVW?format=jpg&name=small

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Response to orleans (Reply #42)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:27 AM

64. Up thread a few posts from his com director

But nothing yet from Himself

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Response to orleans (Reply #29)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:59 PM

41. None of these are statements from today, correct?

I'd trust any hypothetical musings from months ago about as much as trump in a pageant contest dressing room...

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Response to Salviati (Reply #41)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:00 PM

44. cnn had it up n/t

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Response to orleans (Reply #44)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:16 PM

52. And lindsey's quote is from 2018...

grassley's is from July. The other two are undated. I'm sure as hell not going to trust their musings about some hypothetical situation. I'd be interested to hear what they say now that the situations not hypothetical, but I likely still wouldn't trust them until their vote is in the record.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:32 PM

7. he voted to impeach trump so it only makes sense

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Response to AlexSFCA (Reply #7)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:57 PM

18. He is popular enough in Utah, and Trump unpopular enough, that he doesn't

run much of a risk standing up to Trump.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:42 PM

9. Mitt is public enemy #1 to the Trumpsters right now.

So that's a very wise move, IMO.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:47 PM

10. I'll wait to celebrate until I see an announcement from Romney himself.

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Response to scarletwoman (Reply #10)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:56 PM

17. Celebrating is not a good idea...

until we know for certain that the vote is cancelled until 2021.

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Response to scarletwoman (Reply #10)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:40 PM

33. Exactly.


Romney has said that Roe v. Wade should be overturned since 2007, and I'm sure he'd want to maintain his anti-choice bona fides if he's thinking about winning another election.

On the other hand, he would be 76 years old leading up to the next presidential race, no spring chicken, even for a teetotaling Mormon.

He could actually take this opportunity to stick it to Trump, but despite his impeachment vote, he's not particularly known for his intestinal fortitude.

I think it's a 50/50 proposition, at best, whether he'll stand up to McConnell.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:52 PM

11. All the Repugs up for reelection should be the targets-- Collins

Phony Joni, Gardner, McSally, Daines. Probably not Lindseed since he'll say anything to get reelected, then flip if he wins. Gardner, Collins and maybe McSally seem the obvious choices as they are in states Biden will win.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:52 PM

12. Grassley has said no..possibly Warner from NC?

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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #12)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:55 PM

16. Mark Warner is a Democrat from Virginia. To whom are you referring? nt

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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #12)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:07 PM

20. Tillis is the NC Senator up for reelection and he is a trump toady. n/t

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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #12)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:34 PM

30. TheKaspervote....

Where did you hear that Grassley has said no? If he's a no, and Romney's a no and Murkowski has said no....How many more would we need?

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:54 PM

13. Don't listen to Jim Dabakis. He's a nutty guy.

He can be funny - and I actually voted for him for mayor when he ran last year (but lost in the primary) but he's not credible. He makes shit up.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:54 PM

14. So it comes down to who trump/mcconnell can "sell" to the predisposed "no" votes.

Those current "no"'s will be negotiable.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:55 PM

15. we need to put pressure on as many possible no votes as possible!

Extreme pressure!

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Response to Tribalceltic (Reply #15)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:37 PM

32. Tribalceltic...

I agree but how? How do we put pressure on and to whom? We KNOW McConnell is evil and isn't one to be dealt with....

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 09:59 PM

19. Two more are needed

so that we can avoid having Pope Pence break a tie vote.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:14 PM

21. My money is not on Collins's continued concerns. Her concerns tend to have a short life.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:15 PM

22. Chuck Grassley and Lindsey Graham have said in the past:



In July, Chuck Grassley said he would not process a nomination to the Supreme Court in 2020 if he were still chairman of the Judiciary Committee.


Grassley is no longer chair. Lindsey Graham is.

https://qctimes.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/grassley-ernst-split-on-how-to-proceed-if-supreme-court-vacation-occurs-before-election/article_539416db-0cf9-57bd-8204-110e764a2b49.html

“That’ll be up to his decision because he’s chairman now, but I would have to tell him that I wouldn’t have a hearing,” Grassley said. Even if Graham would hold a hearing on a Trump nominee this year, there’s no guarantee it would come to the floor before the election, Grassley added.




LINDSEY GRAHAM on March 10, 2016:

“I want you to use my words against me. If there’s a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say Lindsey Graham said let’s let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination."




[Oct 2018] Sen. Lindsey Graham justifies his treatment of Merrick Garland: "If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump's term, and the primary process has started, we'll wait to the next election"


For whatever it's worth, there's some past background on how two other Senators have stated they would behave.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:18 PM

24. I'll believe it when I see it. Louise Mensch and Jim Danakis

Are suspect to me

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:19 PM

25. Romney's comm. director says that is "grossly false"

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #25)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:42 PM

35. got a link? n/t

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Response to orleans (Reply #35)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:47 PM

38. Yes, he does. It's the tweet. From Romney's communications Director.

Liz Johnson
@LJ0hnson
Communications Director for @SenatorRomney
. Maine girl, Pats fan, amateur photog. Tweets = my own.

https://twitter.com/LJ0hnson

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Response to JHB (Reply #38)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:03 PM

45. Wait...wut?? I just breathed the best sigh of relief I've had in weeks, if not more...

This isn’t welcome news.

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Response to orleans (Reply #35)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:37 PM

56. The link is the tweet in my post. nt

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #56)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:11 AM

61. sorry -- i didn't make that connection. too preoccupied tonight i guess.

and by preoccupied i mean exhausted from crying over our tremendous loss.

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Response to orleans (Reply #61)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:29 AM

69. I hear you.

Me too.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:20 PM

27. Wow... wth happened to Romney?!

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Response to Cha (Reply #27)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:06 PM

46. He still wants to be the GOP nominee for president in 2024.


...more than he wants to stick it to Trump again.

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Response to Cha (Reply #27)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:43 PM

57. We don't know whether anything has happened to him...

His communications director is tweeting that the reported pledge is false (see upthread). Nothing from Mitt himself yet.

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Response to JHB (Reply #57)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:39 AM

62. I read that after I posted.. & I posted like that

because I remember Romney from his 2012 campaign when Steve Benen categorized volumes of Lies & Gaslighting from Mitt about Pres Obama.

So we shall see.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:35 PM

31. Grassley and Murkowski have said they won't confirm until after inauguration.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #31)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:09 PM

48. +2

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #31)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:11 PM

51. WOW.. I hope turtle head doesn't try to

strong arm them. Threaten them.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #31)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:18 PM

54. are there any quotes from them today?

I don't trust their musings about hypothetical situations from weeks to months ago.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:41 PM

34. What Will Sen. Collins Say? n/t

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #34)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:44 PM

36. see my upthread post 29 n/t

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:58 PM

39. Excellent news

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:00 PM

43. I'm actually for real breathing a sigh of relief!

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:09 PM

47. Need three? More

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #47)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:11 PM

50. Ok have three...that makes it 50-50 right? 15 gop senators

On record from 2016 saying they wouldn't confirm in election year.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:16 PM

53. "Lying for The Lord" is his religion's motto.

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Response to czarjak (Reply #53)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:32 AM

66. +1

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:56 PM

59. I don't trust Mitt on this.

 

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:44 AM

67. NEVER Trust a Republican!

Learn, people! Please.

It’ll be great if Romney, et al grow a conscience, but don’t ever count on it. Hope for it, yes. But do not bank on it.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:59 PM

71. He's an asshole but right now he's our ass hole. nt

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