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LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:31 PM Sep 2020

Refugee Plans Being Made....

Hard to Trust This Nation's Ability To Hold The Line of Keeping Whatever Democracy That Exist. We wish Joe and Kamala much luck and will VOTE for both of them 11/3 --- However, we are realizing the reality that this might be our last vote on U.S. shores.

It just got that serious this evening for our Family. Period.

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Refugee Plans Being Made.... (Original Post) LovingA2andMI Sep 2020 OP
See ya later. ZZenith Sep 2020 #1
Yep... LovingA2andMI Sep 2020 #3
If you won't stay and fight for this country ZZenith Sep 2020 #4
Our Culture.... LovingA2andMI Sep 2020 #6
+1 2naSalit Sep 2020 #9
They'll be gunning for me, too, brother. ZZenith Sep 2020 #12
We Gun It Out... LovingA2andMI Sep 2020 #13
See ya later. ZZenith Sep 2020 #14
Are you trying to make a point with repeating yourself... LovingA2andMI Sep 2020 #20
I hear you and I support you. And I don't think you are going to have to leave. I believe Maraya1969 Sep 2020 #32
thats terrible SlogginThroughIt Sep 2020 #7
I understand completely.. HipChick Sep 2020 #2
Go for it. LakeArenal Sep 2020 #5
Thank You! LovingA2andMI Sep 2020 #8
Fuck....you're in Costa Rica? Adopt me! Nevilledog Sep 2020 #35
Yes. Lake Arenal exactly. LakeArenal Sep 2020 #36
Will I be expected to leave? Nevilledog Sep 2020 #37
Every 90 days we have to drive two hours to Nicaragua to renew our visa LakeArenal Sep 2020 #39
Unless Trump somehow gets us thrown out in the next three months. LakeArenal Sep 2020 #40
Pack light anyway. You don't need much here. LakeArenal Sep 2020 #41
Understand your decision. Budi Sep 2020 #10
Thank You.... LovingA2andMI Sep 2020 #17
We must. Until then, we fight however we can to the last day..like RBG 🍃 Budi Sep 2020 #21
Exactly! LovingA2andMI Sep 2020 #22
Promise if your path takes you out of the US, even for an extended visit, ... Budi Sep 2020 #24
Will do.... LovingA2andMI Sep 2020 #27
You have a couple destinatioons in mind? Budi Sep 2020 #30
If there is a will... LovingA2andMI Sep 2020 #33
But like...why would you announce this. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2020 #11
Like Why Not? LovingA2andMI Sep 2020 #15
We cannot go any where. Yavin4 Sep 2020 #16
If there is a will... LovingA2andMI Sep 2020 #18
Anyone with the means and opportunity Codeine Sep 2020 #19
This ⬆️ Budi Sep 2020 #23
+1000 Heartstrings Sep 2020 #25
I, myself, wish I were Canadian. triron Sep 2020 #29
Where do you plan on going? Dial H For Hero Sep 2020 #26
That We'll Keep Secret.... LovingA2andMI Sep 2020 #28
Fair enough. Budi Sep 2020 #31
Goodnight.... LovingA2andMI Sep 2020 #34
But all of the countries are American LakeArenal Sep 2020 #38
Lol. Ok that will be learned lesson #1 then. Budi Sep 2020 #42

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
3. Yep...
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:37 PM
Sep 2020

We refuse to live in the US with a Trump Supreme Court and Another Presidency -- as Peace of Mind is worth more than if Democracy cannot hold with the end results 11/3.

Take care...

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
6. Our Culture....
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:43 PM
Sep 2020

Have a Targets on our heads/necks/backs/house/walking/running/living/breathing in this NATION already and we NEVER asked to be here nor did our Ancestors. We will be DAMNED if we allow another Election of Donald Trump to take us and our Culture completely out in this nation.

You fight for it. We have been historically beaten and in-slaved for it. It was NEVER OURS to begin with --- as in 3/5th of a Human Being so check that privilege before replying back. #REALTALK

ZZenith

(4,115 posts)
12. They'll be gunning for me, too, brother.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:48 PM
Sep 2020

No way in hell I’m going to bug out. Nowhere in the world is going to be safe if they aren’t stopped here.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
13. We Gun It Out...
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:51 PM
Sep 2020

We have a Family to Protect. This Country that was never our home - outside of forwarding one LAST VOTE to save whatever "Democracy" is alleged to exist here - is the last THING we are willing to do.

Maraya1969

(22,464 posts)
32. I hear you and I support you. And I don't think you are going to have to leave. I believe
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:38 PM
Sep 2020

we will win!

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
7. thats terrible
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:43 PM
Sep 2020

I get it stay and fight. But the reality is why are our children to be subjected to the fight? Honestly... To what? Maybe get the same idilic past we had that is all founded on racism bigotry and breaking the backs of laborers?

Why should our kids be subjected to fighting for things that should be rights? I am tired of raising my kids believing that this is a great place to live when it very fucking clearly is not! They are getting shot in schools, watching black men get killed on tv weekly, president lying while the country dies and so much more.

No fuck that. I have no ill feelings towards someone who is doing something fir the benefit if his family. If I did then I would be like those trumpers wanting to stop people coming here.

LakeArenal

(28,806 posts)
5. Go for it.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:40 PM
Sep 2020

We moved to Costa Rica last year in Sept.
Political reasons were not a factor at the time. However, we are thankful. We feel we got here and settled, our application for residency entered just in the nick of time.

LakeArenal

(28,806 posts)
36. Yes. Lake Arenal exactly.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:06 AM
Sep 2020

A year here Sept 1. We are in paradise. My journal has a couple of threads about it.
In the mountains near a volcano over looking Lake Arenal.
Come see us first chance you get.

LakeArenal

(28,806 posts)
39. Every 90 days we have to drive two hours to Nicaragua to renew our visa
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:11 AM
Sep 2020

Once we get residency we won’t have too.

Since lockdown we have not been required to renew.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
10. Understand your decision.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:47 PM
Sep 2020

The more serious moment will be in gettiing the Senate & House majority on Nov 3rd.

Those seats are less contestable than President. Which Trump will certainly do.

We absolutely need the Senate & House.

Nov 3 determines everything as to leaving or staying.

Tough decision no one should have ever had to make.
Best to you & your loved ones, & I sincerely mean that.
I doubt you're alone in your thinking tonight.
~peace

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
21. We must. Until then, we fight however we can to the last day..like RBG 🍃
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:03 PM
Sep 2020

We do all the good we can & for as long as we can.

Be like RBG ~

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
24. Promise if your path takes you out of the US, even for an extended visit, ...
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:10 PM
Sep 2020

..you will stay in touch with us.

Some of us may need some future advice...🥂

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
30. You have a couple destinatioons in mind?
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:33 PM
Sep 2020

I'd like Canada but it is a damned hard process getting in there.

I almost left after Trump was selected in 2016.
Family talked me out of it.
I kind of regret it today.

Canada was an easier entry at that time. Now, not so much. 🙁

Ugh.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
33. If there is a will...
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:45 PM
Sep 2020

There's a Way. There is a belief many nations' will see the impossible clusterfuck the "United States of America" has become and has been since 2009. Let us be clear - the Election of Barack Obama was AMAZING. Equally, in 2009, we begun to see the backlash of America's RACIST Past and Present in how Barack Obama was treated and judged. Frankly, we don't know why he or his family put up with the shit, in light of how much a RACIST SOB named Donald Trump has been able to get away with.

Either way, back to the point. Americans seeking Refugee status will have to HUMBLE themselves. Come to the realization that America was NEVER GREAT. Accept that this nation does not WALK ON WATER or have any pillar of DEMOCRACY. Never has as it as always been a show -in different stages of the game. Trying to hold on to ideas that was never true from the Original Constitution - "All Men Are Created Equal". That's BS.

So, yes -- there will be some counties that will take SOME Americans. They will have to move quick after this election --- if the worse happens. We are PREPARED to do just that.

Suggestion - if you are not already prepared - research the refugee policy of the Country sought and be ready to go. Like at the end of November tops.

And remember, there is a WILL, there is a WAY.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
15. Like Why Not?
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:55 PM
Sep 2020

Is there a reason not to be honest is a dishonest nation built based on dishonestly, human bondage, slavely and lies?

if this honestly is too much, there are many other posts to read. Many of them.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
19. Anyone with the means and opportunity
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 10:58 PM
Sep 2020

should bounce. This nation is a joke. A sick, violent, racist joke.

triron

(21,984 posts)
29. I, myself, wish I were Canadian.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:23 PM
Sep 2020

Luckily I live in NM which is very blue. Since I am 74 and everything i love and hold dear is here
I will stay put.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
31. Fair enough.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:38 PM
Sep 2020

I love my America but I worry about the future here for my little grandkids.

I would like to have another home for them in a friendlier freer country. In case they chose to join me someday.
Just a thought, I guess.

Night 🍃

LakeArenal

(28,806 posts)
38. But all of the countries are American
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:09 AM
Sep 2020

Costa Rica gets perturbed when we say we are Americans. So are they.

We are from the US.

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