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BGBD

(3,282 posts)
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:18 PM Sep 2020

Hot take.....a supreme court vacancy

is the Republicns worst nightmare right now.

Of courae filling a vacancy is what these assholes live for, but they do not want this on the plate right now.

They would much rather have been able to tell conservatives and even moderates that they needed to be elected because of thebsupreme court, but if they get to fill RBGs spot it takes away the urgency and makes it easier for those voters to stay home or even vote Dem based on dislike of Trump. It was the Supreme court that led to a lot of folks holding their nose and voting Trump in 2016.

Senators are going to be forced to defend pushing a vote through in their races based on what happened in 2016. If the nominee has a fatal flaw they will have to wear that as well.

Biden shouldnt release a name to give them a target to go after, just release general information on the type of person he would nominate. A generality will beat a real person in perception every time.

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Hot take.....a supreme court vacancy (Original Post) BGBD Sep 2020 OP
Good analysis MaryMagdaline Sep 2020 #1
I agree, Biden shouldn't take the bait soothsayer Sep 2020 #2
CNN, Jim Acosta "Trump salivating at the prospect of filling a vacancy on the SC", yeah, they gonna Baclava Sep 2020 #3
Interesting take. There are potential drawbacks to the timing. nt crickets Sep 2020 #4
These guys don't care about winning their races Jspur Sep 2020 #5
Great jobs and high pay BGBD Sep 2020 #7
Paul Ryan proved to me great jobs Jspur Sep 2020 #9
Paul Ryan BGBD Sep 2020 #12
I think there's something to this...they're not going to pull in any more voters through this greenjar_01 Sep 2020 #6
GOP nightmare? I don't agree misanthrope Sep 2020 #8
Agreed this is anything Jspur Sep 2020 #10
Yep, they will use this just like misanthrope Sep 2020 #11
Wouldn't work BGBD Sep 2020 #13
 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
3. CNN, Jim Acosta "Trump salivating at the prospect of filling a vacancy on the SC", yeah, they gonna
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 11:32 PM
Sep 2020

Jspur

(603 posts)
5. These guys don't care about winning their races
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:45 AM
Sep 2020

. I'm sure they are going to get bribed by a bunch of corporate lobbyists to push a judge through. They will also be rewarded with great jobs in case they lose their election.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
7. Great jobs and high pay
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:16 AM
Sep 2020

don't mean shit to these guys.

They are all already rich. There's NOTHING like power.

Jspur

(603 posts)
9. Paul Ryan proved to me great jobs
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:28 AM
Sep 2020

and high pay do matter. Paul passed through unpopular legislation that he knew would not get him re-elected simply because he was guaranteed a lot of money and a great corporate job. Paul didn't even bother to run for reelection knowing he was going to lose.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
12. Paul Ryan
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 02:51 AM
Sep 2020

knew that even if he won reelection he was going to lose the majority and his speakership. With that he was going to lose his monority leadership and potential future speakership to McCarthy.

Ryan didn't choose to lose power, it was gone and so he left too.

big bucks when they leave is a perk, it's not the goal.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
6. I think there's something to this...they're not going to pull in any more voters through this
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:46 AM
Sep 2020

But the flood of voters in opposition - either to stop a Trump pick or in complete outrage at Republican power moves - is a virtual oceans worth.

misanthrope

(8,081 posts)
8. GOP nightmare? I don't agree
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:22 AM
Sep 2020

Here's how they use it to their advantage:

They need the vacancy to drive their turnout. So what they could do is make a big noise about a specific nominee, but find a handful of safe GOP senators to gum up the works just enough so it keeps the urgency on their side. They would have the nominee as a carrot to hold out in front of their voters and herd them to the polls.

misanthrope

(8,081 posts)
11. Yep, they will use this just like
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:38 AM
Sep 2020

they have used the abortion issue for a half-century now. They are really good at the duplicity and maneuvering that pays off in American modern electoral politics. What they actually aren't so good at is governing but they can manipulate voters like no one's business.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
13. Wouldn't work
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 02:59 AM
Sep 2020

Waiting until after the election would cause a revolt in the base.

This forces them to walk a tight rope. The moderates in the US are going to come down on the side of this should wait until after the election and the next President decide. The conservatives are going to want a justice tomorrow.

If they wait, the conservatives are going to call the RINOs and Trump is going to start attacking them on Twitter. If they push it, democrats are going to use it as a cudgel and it will work with the moderates and independents. There will be a rallying cry among the left to pack the court and it may never have more public support than if Republicans push the nomination two weeks before an election.

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