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kentuck

(111,052 posts)
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:53 AM Sep 2020

Why Donald Trump will choose to NOT push thru his SC nominee at this time?

Make no mistake, Donald Trump calls the shots for the Republican Party.

Whatever decision he makes must be in the interest of Donald J Trump.

Uppermost in Donald's mind at this time is, what can help me win the election on November 3rd?

If he pushes thru his nominee now, there may be less incentive for some Republicans to vote for him in November? The only reason they voted for him the last time was solely for Supreme Court picks. He might actually lose votes if he chooses a Justice at this time.

Also, Trump understands that he is behind and he needs all the help he can get. Do Republicans want Joe Biden to pick the next Supreme Court Justice or do they want Donald Trump to make that choice?

When the political options are all weighed, Donald Trump will decide that it is in his best interest to leverage the Supreme Court pick to get more Republicans to the polls.

He can see it no other way, in my opinion.

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Why Donald Trump will choose to NOT push thru his SC nominee at this time? (Original Post) kentuck Sep 2020 OP
I disagree. AZ8theist Sep 2020 #1
I also disagree. no_hypocrisy Sep 2020 #2
He'll want a justice jammed through for when he buries the judicial system in lawsuits The Genealogist Sep 2020 #3
He will leverage the decision until after election randr Sep 2020 #4
That's what I think too. Not so much him but his handlers. Alacritous Crier Sep 2020 #15
But he would still need the Senate to vote. kentuck Sep 2020 #23
It could be his stay out of jail card. C_U_L8R Sep 2020 #5
That is probably one option being evaluated Klaralven Sep 2020 #6
Nah TwilightZone Sep 2020 #7
They will push it through. You are making the mistake of thinking they have any Squinch Sep 2020 #8
my thoughts exactly....once the repugs have their SCOTUS..trump will not be needed any more.. samnsara Sep 2020 #9
That would give them an excuse not to vote for him... kentuck Sep 2020 #10
He will push a nominee through because doing so is what he is... Hugin Sep 2020 #11
That goes both ways though Zak112234 Sep 2020 #12
Yeah, I have a feeling that this is going to become a big GOP clusterfuck. GoCubsGo Sep 2020 #13
I think you may be right. kentuck Sep 2020 #14
That's an interesting theory DeminPennswoods Sep 2020 #16
CNN, Jim Acosta, WH sources "Trump was salivating at the prospect of filling RGB's S.C. vacancy" Baclava Sep 2020 #17
It will probably be the fastest confirmation in recent history Chainfire Sep 2020 #18
You are very astute K. We can't forget the driving force, aways..his narcissism Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2020 #19
No way! nt USALiberal Sep 2020 #20
He needs to win the election to stay out of jail and he needs the SC to "win" the election. So, he artemisia1 Sep 2020 #21
If he were smart, he'd pick Merrick Garland. Eid Ma Clack Shaw Sep 2020 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Sep 2020 #24
What would be their qualifications? kentuck Sep 2020 #25
He'll want a judge to side with him in case the 2020 election winds up in the hands of the courts... cynatnite Sep 2020 #26

AZ8theist

(5,410 posts)
1. I disagree.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 06:15 AM
Sep 2020

Donald Trump is a fucking IMBECILE. He will do what he's told by the last person he talks to.

The last person he talks to will be Moscow Mitch.

no_hypocrisy

(46,028 posts)
2. I also disagree.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 06:46 AM
Sep 2020

My take on Republicans/MAGAts/etc. is they won't be satisfied until they have all nine Justices on the USSC.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
3. He'll want a justice jammed through for when he buries the judicial system in lawsuits
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:00 AM
Sep 2020

after the election. He thinks he is entitled to ALL the electoral votes, and will want a Supreme Court to be as compliant to his whims as the DOJ is now.

randr

(12,409 posts)
4. He will leverage the decision until after election
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:08 AM
Sep 2020

If he loses he will make a lame duck choice before new Senators are seated

kentuck

(111,052 posts)
23. But he would still need the Senate to vote.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:58 AM
Sep 2020

What if there is a lame-duck Senate? It could be argued that the newly-appointed Justice would not be legitimate if appointed by Senators that were no longer in the Senate.

I could see problems there.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
6. That is probably one option being evaluated
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:21 AM
Sep 2020

1. Push through confirmation before Nov 3 - Time is short, senators are campaigning, May be negative enough in particular Senate races that 51 senators won't go along with this option.

2. Push through confirmation in lame duck session between Nov 3 and Jan 1. Roughly 5 weeks after break weeks.

2.a. Trump has won and Republicans hold Senate. Probably hold off until next Congress.

2.b. Trump has won and Republicans lost control of Senate. Most likely case to push through nomination, because this is the last chance to change the Court.

2.c. Biden won, Republicans hold Senate. Less likely case to push through nomination. First two years of Biden administration would be remarkably contentious.

2.d. Biden has won and Republicans lost control of Senate. Probably hold off until next congress since the Senate minority will have to work with the new president and Senate majority.

TwilightZone

(25,428 posts)
7. Nah
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:22 AM
Sep 2020

Mitch calls the shots. Trump will nominate someone soon, probably by Monday.

"The only reason they voted for him the last time was solely for Supreme Court picks."

I see little evidence of this. Besides, 6 is better than 5, if that's the only motivation.

Squinch

(50,916 posts)
8. They will push it through. You are making the mistake of thinking they have any
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:36 AM
Sep 2020

rationality. They are like amoebas. They have no thought process. They only look for food. Republican politicians are the same, only without a thought process they are looking for power.

kentuck

(111,052 posts)
10. That would give them an excuse not to vote for him...
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 07:55 AM
Sep 2020

...if they get their Supreme Court Justice.

Trump will do what he thinks is best for him.

Hugin

(33,058 posts)
11. He will push a nominee through because doing so is what he is...
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:00 AM
Sep 2020

He can't resist.

Holding off on a SC pick would show he is capable of strategic long term thinking. A trait which any evidence of his having has never once appeared in anything he's ever done... Ever.

 

Zak112234

(12 posts)
12. That goes both ways though
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:03 AM
Sep 2020

The logic you're applying to Trump supporters, is also applicable to Biden supporters. The chance at a SCOTUS seat will get more liberals to the polls, than the defeatist mentally that was all over this board as soon as RGB passed

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
13. Yeah, I have a feeling that this is going to become a big GOP clusterfuck.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:05 AM
Sep 2020

Trump always makes things worse for Trump, and this has the makings of making it worse for the GOP, as well. Don't be surprised if they wind up fighting each other over this whole thing before anything gets done. There is no honor among thieves, and it could all very well backfire on them. Add to that the fact that Democrats are even more motivated to get out and vote now. They're going to be acting out of panic, and that never ends well.

kentuck

(111,052 posts)
14. I think you may be right.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:09 AM
Sep 2020

There will be Republican toenails and eyeballs everywhere. It could get nasty.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
16. That's an interesting theory
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:16 AM
Sep 2020

I don't think anything will happen before the election, but if Rs lose the WH and Senate, it's more than likely McConnell will push through a vote.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
17. CNN, Jim Acosta, WH sources "Trump was salivating at the prospect of filling RGB's S.C. vacancy"
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:16 AM
Sep 2020

Chainfire

(17,471 posts)
18. It will probably be the fastest confirmation in recent history
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:19 AM
Sep 2020

Trump now has a chance choose the SC Justice that ends up deciding a contested election. The vote needed to stop the recounting of all of those "crooked" mailed in votes. The passing of RBG is a huge gift to Trump, he will waste the opportunity. McConnel will fast Trump's selection, and the Senate Republicans will vote for whatever swamp creature that will support all Right Wing issues.


When in the final days of WWII, Hitler, upon hearing of Roosevelt's death, was sure it was the miracle that would end up splitting the US and the Soviet Union and would keep Germany alive. I suspect that Trump is celebrating today for the same kinds of reasons. We can only hope it turns out the same.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
19. You are very astute K. We can't forget the driving force, aways..his narcissism
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:21 AM
Sep 2020

Whenever, if ever, it happens that IQ45 picks someone, we must be careful not to be fooled. ( Like a handful were with Barr).

We already have 3 Republicans who say they won't consider a nominee now. 50-50. One more and he can't get anyone thru.



artemisia1

(756 posts)
21. He needs to win the election to stay out of jail and he needs the SC to "win" the election. So, he
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:31 AM
Sep 2020

will push through a nomination as if his life depended upon it. Sorry.

Eid Ma Clack Shaw

(490 posts)
22. If he were smart, he'd pick Merrick Garland.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:50 AM
Sep 2020

Think about it - it’s a RW majority no matter what and a moderate pick makes him look reasonable and pragmatic a few weeks from the election. He would look above it all, the media would be fawning for a month over his bipartisanship and his cult believe whatever he tells them, so there would be no dissent there.

People have ridiculously short memories, so I guarantee such a move would help him claw back some of those on the soft-right who’ve been appalled by his behaviour and once again give life to the lie that “maybe Trump isn’t so bad....”.

Response to kentuck (Original post)

kentuck

(111,052 posts)
25. What would be their qualifications?
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:14 AM
Sep 2020

And can we assume that they will vote the far-right agenda, no matter what?

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
26. He'll want a judge to side with him in case the 2020 election winds up in the hands of the courts...
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:17 AM
Sep 2020

Given how much tRump has sewed confusion in voting and cried he was cheated if he loses, that's what he's aiming for. He's not a long term thinking guy. This election is all he's thinking about.

If the Dems can get in the WH and at least tie up the senate, their best chance is to expand the court, IMO. Nothing in the constitution to prevent it.

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