Stove. Hot. OUCH!!!

[hamsterjill]

Leslie Allen Jordan recently told this story as a tribute to his addiction sponsor who had passed away. The sponsor used this phrase to remind Leslie that when you continually do the same negative thing, you get the same result.

So, let’s learn.

Never trust a Republican. Let’s say that again, please. NEVER trust a Republican. One more time, please. NEVER TRUST A REPUBLICAN!!!

So, don’t console yourself that Romney or Collins or Graham or Murkowski may stand up and go against party as to the nomination of RBG’s successor. Hopefully, they will grow a conscience and do the right thing.

But you cannot trust them to do it because they are Republicans. If they had a moral compass, they would not be a Republican.

Stove. Hot. Ouch!!!

[Hugin]

1. The only way they'll stand up is if they feel there is a strong enough majority to get what...

they really want to pander to us for our votes.

Because, you see, they think we're stupid. Don't be stupid.

[BComplex]

2. Never trust a republican. If they had a moral compass, they would not be a Republican.

You nailed it.

[SheltieLover]

4. This!👆

Well said!

[hamsterjill]

5. Thank you.

I’ve unfortunately always found that to be true.

[Rebl2]

22. Very true!

[Proud liberal 80]

3. I think Romney is the only genuine one

[hamsterjill]

6. I don't ever count on him.

I think he may have an inkling of a conscience but he’s still a Republican.

[2naSalit]

19. Nope. You cannot trust him to do the right thing in a time like this...

Senator 47% sees us much like -45 does so never give him the benefit of the doubt. His performance in the Senate impeachment trial was a blip, see it as such and go forth knowing better than to ever trust him with important decisions. I have been watching him for a long time and this is factual throughout his history.

[KS Toronado]

31. His impeachment vote was only window dressing for his next presidential run.

[2naSalit]

32. And it was an act, period.

He wouldn't have done it if it really would have changed things.

[Polybius]

37. It only made him more hated by the base

They didn't like him all that much in 2012 either. Some held their nose to vote for him, but many stayed home or voted 3rd Party. He'd get clobbered by Tucker Carlson in 2024, that's how crazy the base is now.

[TexasBushwhacker]

51. Evangelical Christians think Mormonism is a cult

Of course, they don't see their own Trump worshipping behavior as cult like at all.

[dmr]

60. Funny how that is, eh?

A bunch of miserable hypocrites.

[lunatica]

42. Vulture capitalism and animal abuser.

Both show he has about as much empathy as Trump does.

[SMC22307]

25. FFS, the Bain Capital guy who killed Mom & Pop?

Mr. 47 Percent?

[2naSalit]

33. +1

[Texin]

35. Don't kid yourself. He sure didn't sound "genuine" back in 2012.

Every single one of these weasels will fall in line with Moscow Mitch. They've proven over and over and over again that they will only fall in lock step to keep their power.

Oh, and the notion that Dems will add seats on the bench can just as easily be accomplished by rethugs as Dems. When they get that super majority on the SCOTUS, as they will - and soon - they can do the exact same thing. There are NEVER political *consequences* for rethugs.

[kentuck]

7. They will do what is in their best interest.

We know there are no profiles in courage in the Republican Party.

[wryter2000]

10. True but

For some in states where Trump is hugely unpopular, defying Turtleman may be in their best interest. If I were Susan Collins, I’d be all over this to show my independence from Trump.

[2naSalit]

21. She'll string you along to the last minute...

and stab you in the brain when it comes down to the vote, or even speaking out. She is totally owned by the groupthink and will never do anything to cast a shadow on their agenda.

[hamsterjill]

26. Exactly! She does it every freaking time.

Same M.O.

Stove. Hot. OUCH!!!

[wryter2000]

43. She voted to save the ACA

And her constituents greeted her with applause at the airport. This could be her best shot to save her Senate seat. She's in trouble now because of just the behavior you mentioned. She would only have to say we should hold up the appointment until after the election. Murkowski already has said that.

[2naSalit]

45. And it would be as genuine as

Rmoney's impeachment performance.

[wryter2000]

47. I don't care if it's genuine

Why should I?

[Bettie]

8. Thank you for saying this

because some people seem to have a hard time wrapping their minds around this simple fact.

They are not to be trusted, if there are two options, one benign and one that is cruel, they will choose cruelty each and every time. If there is one option that builds and one that destroys, they will choose destruction every time.

Why is that so hard for people to see?

Is it doom and gloom to see clearly what is happening around us?

Remember, these are the same people who, when it looked like Clinton would win declared that she would never get SCOTUS pick.

Remember, these are the people who kept a record number of judicial vacancies throughout Obama's terms so that they could stack the courts with unqualified right wingers the second they had the power to do so. And they have.

[hamsterjill]

41. And thank you for saying that "is it doom and gloom to see clearly what is happening around us".

I'm really sick and tired of all of the cheerleaders here. I deal in reality. And reality sucks right now. That doesn't mean I'm rolling over and giving up. It means I'm ready to fight to the death because of it.

You cannot described a negative situation without being negative. You cannot and should not sugarcoat the truth. We all lived through 2016 and we know that Trump is Putin's puppet and that he's going to cheat any way he can. Hell, I believe every Republican alive is capable of that to get what they want.

I don't trust polls. We made THAT mistake in 2016. Saying that I don't shouldn't be an excuse for anyone to give up and not go vote, yet I've been told that is what happens - been told that on DU. If Biden is ahead, then I'm elated, but I won't trust anything until he's sworn in on January 20th. Anyone else who doesn't understand that doesn't have the same understanding of 2016. I'd rather think that Biden is behind and make sure EVERYONE goes to vote.

[mountain grammy]

9. Learned that at my mother's knee

while Eisenhower was president..she was OK with Ike, but Nixon really grated on her and then came Joe McCarthy. She said, never trust Republicans..

[hamsterjill]

38. Learned it from my dad.

A rancher who had lived through the Great Depression. Until the day he died, I watched him eat his good fast at meals, and that stemmed from the fact that when he was young, if you waited, you might not have anything to eat.

He always said that Democrats were the party of the people and Republicans were the party of the rich. He would go on to say that it always had been that way and always will be.

He died in 2010 at the age of 95. He wasn't wrong then and he's not been wrong since.

No quarter!

[mountain grammy]

48. You were lucky to have him so long

Mom only made it to 77. Lost her in 1988.

Your dad got to see Obama elected.. How my mom would have loved that..

And they were 100% right..

[hamsterjill]

49. Yes ma'am.

I miss him every day as I’m sure you do your mom.

[Illumination]

11. Thanks for reminding us of the fact that they're the rejects that momma cat didn't want...

[backscatter712]

12. This is why we pressure the vulnerable ones.

Cory Gardner, Susan Collins, LadyG, Lisa Murkowski...

They're the ones scared shitless of losing their seats. Lean on them hard.

[2naSalit]

23. Steve Daines too.

He wants to sell off public lands, privatize the national parks and start drilling and chopping down forests so the cows can graze them. Oh and then there the coal mining.

Steve Bullock, his opponent, can use some help to get over the MOE. So don't forget to help Montana or we'll start hearing about how we have too many senators again.

[JTOL]

13. Again

Never trust a Republican.
No more harshly worded letters from Dems.
No more empty threats from Dems
No more broadcasting what we might do
JUST DO IT

[BlancheSplanchnik]

14. That's the damn truth.

Certainly no expectation that Collins will do the right thing.

[2naSalit]

24. How many stab wounds do we already have?

[BlancheSplanchnik]

27. Ow my back. Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow. .....

[BlueJac]

15. Agree

Never trust them

[johnthewoodworker]

16. Republicans are America's nazis. Don't expect nazis to do the right thing.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

28. +1000

[TNNurse]

17. Cannot imagine that anyone would trust Collins on anything.

[KatyMan]

18. Truth

People often make the mistake of thinking republicans are decent, moral people that will do the right thing. They aren't. They are craven, unprincipled cowards who think of nothing but money and power, leading a rabble of ignorant syncophants.

[BigmanPigman]

20. That was the family motto growing up.

[lark]

29. The only time they do right is when they are afraid.

So a few (Collins, specifically) will vote against the repug because if she doesn't she is out of a job and power & money are the only things repugs actually care about but there won't be enough to stop the candidate is my fear. So, we need to work our asses off to get folks to vote for Biden and other D's and hope we can pull off a miracle and win all 3 branches and stop the rw fascist roll. Otherwise, we will lose so much we care about, even our lives through this assholes push for herd immunity.

[live love laugh]

30. ABSOLUTELY correct! NEVER trust a Republican. nt

[hamsterjill]

56. Thank you.

Appreciate your response. Hope you are well and safe.

[CTyankee]

34. Yep, just get 'em all OUT. Let God sort them out.

[NoRoadUntravelled]

36. Spot on!

Republicans cannot be trusted. They've proven that again and again. If anyone is lulled into believing otherwise just because the lies may be coming out of a different face, then it's on the ones being deceived.

[hamsterjill]

57. Totally!

Thank you for your response. We must learn not to forget this when the honey talk is dripping from their mouths.

Be safe!

[martouf]

39. This means Steve Schmidt and the whole Lincoln Project team

Remember that Steve Schmidt, George Conway, and all the others who are against Trump are still Republicans.

As soon as a guy (yes, guy - not woman) they like is back in power they will be back to their usual policies. They will be back to trying to take away health care, Social Security, and Medicare. They will be back to making corporations more powerful and individual workers into serfs. They will be back to depressing wages and benefits in favor of profits.

They may, temporarily, be our allies in the fight against Trump, but they are not our friends nor kindred spirits. They will be our enemies again soon enough.

[hamsterjill]

44. +1000

Use them for what we can get from them because that’s what they do to us. They are only backing Biden because they hate Trump. As long as it benefits our cause, that’s great. But never forget who they are.

[GopherGal]

50. They'll get my cheers

and "attaboys" for denouncing Dirty Donnie.

But they won't get my monetary support for fear that once we defeat His Grotesqueness they'll take their resources and train their guns once again on the disadvantaged, women, minorities, and working people.

[safeinOhio]

40. Stay away from red faces and

red places.

Vote Blue.

[dalton99a]

46. In other words, don't be stupid.

[LakeArenal]

52. All this, don't trust a Republican.

Lots of folks here love Steve Schmidt and Nicole Wallace. That Navarro woman on the View is a Republican.

We better learn to work with some Republicans.

[hamsterjill]

55. Working with them is not the same as trusting them.

We can work with them when they are willing to respect us and make reasonable compromise. But we just can’t turn our backs on them.

[live love laugh]

58. Democrats have worked with Republicans. It's Republicans who haven't worked with us.

Democrats have attempted to negotiate, turned against our own (crucified Bill Clinton) when Republicans don’t--we’ve practically bent over backwards and each concession on our part has been an encroachment on the part of Republicans. They never let up and won’t until they have total dominance.

They’re ruthless and what we better learn is not to be pushovers in the face of ruthlessness.

[LakeArenal]

61. Who the heck said be s pushover.

Hopefully there’s a new US coming.
I actually want people to stop sounding like hateful Republican. Become the US everyone says we are.

Pretty tired of the doom and gloom. We all gonna die stuff. Life sucks right now. Agreed. But all signs point to a great new US.

This giving up hope shit is exactly want the Pukes want to hear. We sound just like them.

[live love laugh]

62. "Giving up hope..."?? "The us everyone says we are"?

[LakeArenal]

63. No. Look closer... the US. United States of America.

[SunSeeker]

53. "If they had a moral compass, they would not be a Republican."

That basically sums it up.

[hamsterjill]

54. Unfortunately, it does.

Thanks for responding. Hope you are safe and well.

[uponit7771]

59. K&R,