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Trump praises Robert E. Lee. Here's "A quick history lesson for the patriots of Minnesota" (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2020 OP
40%+ of voters still thinks that this guy should be president. TwilightZone Sep 2020 #1
The idiot is praising a traitor Ferrets are Cool Sep 2020 #2
And his idiot supporters in Minnesota lamenting that the side they were on won and the South lost. Solly Mack Sep 2020 #3
Hmmm... moondust Sep 2020 #4
The First Minnesota Volunteers is one of the most storied regiments of the War . . . Journeyman Sep 2020 #5
Robert E. Lee would have found Donnie disgusting Vogon_Glory Sep 2020 #6
cant anybody do something BootinUp Sep 2020 #7

TwilightZone

(25,428 posts)
1. 40%+ of voters still thinks that this guy should be president.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:18 PM
Sep 2020

That still occasionally boggles the mind. Massive numbers of gullible and ignorant people.

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
3. And his idiot supporters in Minnesota lamenting that the side they were on won and the South lost.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:35 PM
Sep 2020

Seriously. How fucking brainwashed do you have to be to do that? How fucking stupid do you have to be?

Once, a woman from Michigan, whose entire family came from Michigan - both sides, all from Michigan. From the time they entered America to the present. Settled in and lived in Michigan.

This woman told me how her flying the confederate battle flag was "heritage" not hate.

Even if one was to allow for the obvious lie, how could someone from Michigan claim southern heritage? I asked her this.

She said it was a mental/emotional thing. An affinity.

I told her that affinity she felt was hate. Nothing but hate. That it was all hate. A "heritage" of hate.

Trump, his supporters, the GOP - all hate, all the time.







moondust

(19,958 posts)
4. Hmmm...
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:38 PM
Sep 2020

That might work with his racist, neo-confederate base farther south but I'm not sure there are many neo-confederates in Minnesota. Is he setting up a face-saving narrative about how he, like Lee, was winning bigly until something happened and he lost but nevertheless he still deserves to have statues of himself erected and preserved because he's a "winner" despite losing?

Journeyman

(15,024 posts)
5. The First Minnesota Volunteers is one of the most storied regiments of the War . . .
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:56 PM
Sep 2020

They were the first volunteers. The Governor of Minnesota was in Washington the day Mr Lincoln put out the first call for volunteers and he quickly stepped forward with a promise to raise a regiment. He had some idea it would be a useful addition; he had no idea how well they would distinguish themselves.

Very few of the original 3,000 men returned home just a scant two years later. They fought in nearly every major engagement of the first two years of war: Bull Run, the Penninsula, Antietam, Fredericksburg, Chancellorsville. At Gettysburg, they found themselves almost alone on Cemetery Ridge, the only Union force available to confront a mass of Confederate troops who were storming through the broken ranks of Gen. Sickles' ill-placed defenses and threatening to get behind the Federal lines. Gen. Hancock, commanding the Union center, knew he needed to delay the Confederates for five minutes so he could move in reinforcements. All he found for the task was a handful of the 1st Minnesota. He pointed to the advancing enemy lines and told Col. Colville to hold them at all cost. Charging forward, the Minnesotans fixed bayonets as they ran. They knew it was suicide. They numbered only 262. And there were more than 1600 Alabamans coming towards them.

It was the highest casualty rate in a single engagement of any regiment in the war. Only 47 men returned. They suffered a staggering loss of 82%. But they bought Gen. Hancock not five minutes, but ten, inflicted tremendous casualties on the Rebel regiment, and helped hold the line.

There are over 1600 monuments at Gettysburg. The very first was dedicated to the 1st Minnesota. It was placed in the National Cemetery exactly four years to the hour after Col. Colville lead that fateful charge. It's one of the simplest, a stone vase in which fresh flowers are planted every Spring. On Cemetery Ridge there's a larger monument, atop which a running soldier is posed, bayonet at the ready, faced eternally towards the rock-strewn swale into which so many gave that last full measure.

Vogon_Glory

(9,109 posts)
6. Robert E. Lee would have found Donnie disgusting
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 02:04 PM
Sep 2020

I’m not excusing his actions during the Civil War, but after it. was over he retired to civilian life, stayed out of politics and became an educator.

Admittedly he was probably a racist and a sexist by today’s standards, but he moved closer towards racial equality in his private life than most southern white males did for the next seventy plus years.

Donnie could learn from Lee: good manners, avoiding the Post-Civil War politics of rancor and division, and practicing genuine faith—qualities we have seen sorely lacking in Individual One in the years before and after Inauguration Day 2017.

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