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I Heard There Was Stuff In The Bible (Original Post) DanieRains Sep 2020 OP
Actually, abortion isn't mentioned once in the bible MiniMe Sep 2020 #1
Causing a miscarriage is mentioned three times, I think haele Sep 2020 #6
Nothing about masks either. Doreen Sep 2020 #2
Moses wore a veil, Exodus 34. tanyev Sep 2020 #5
Absolutely correct! raging moderate Sep 2020 #7
I stand corrected. Doreen Sep 2020 #8
Seems to me like he did it out of consideration for the Israelites, tanyev Sep 2020 #9
Consideration......go figure. Doreen Sep 2020 #11
There is the ordeal of bitter water: tanyev Sep 2020 #3
Yes, you are right. raging moderate Sep 2020 #4
Numbers talks about it specifically JDC Sep 2020 #10

haele

(12,647 posts)
6. Causing a miscarriage is mentioned three times, I think
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 02:05 PM
Sep 2020

Twice for determining appropriate payment to the would-be father for the loss of an heir, and one as a judicial method to determine if a woman who appeared pregnant was fooling around on her husband.
And of course, there are a couple stories related with relish about enemy citied being destroyed and all the inhabitants save virgin girls being massacred - to the point where pregnant women had their feotus removed before being killed themselves.
There is a passage in Psalms where I think it's suggested that God knows a soul from the time it quickened that Anti-abortion bgroups like to use, however, there are far more passages that suggest a soul enters a body once the first breath is taken. But these two concepts are presented in a more poetic/spiritual section than the actual "rules and history" sections, so interpretation is a bit fuzzy.
There's also the bit about the Witch of Endor, who it is suggested was a pharmacist type that caused visions and provided poisons (including abortifacients) which gets muddied about with not allowing a witch to thrive.
However, there isn't anything about a potential life being so sacred that it had to be protected at all costs.

The Evilangelicals don't actually know the bible the purport to read, they just tell themselves that their actions are Gawd,'s will and He approves of any evil action or inaction they profit from in his name.

Haele

tanyev

(42,552 posts)
5. Moses wore a veil, Exodus 34.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:55 PM
Sep 2020
The Radiant Face of Moses

29When Moses came down from Mount Sinai with the two tablets of the covenant law in his hands, he was not aware that his face was radiant because he had spoken with the Lord. 30When Aaron and all the Israelites saw Moses, his face was radiant, and they were afraid to come near him. 31But Moses called to them; so Aaron and all the leaders of the community came back to him, and he spoke to them. 32Afterward all the Israelites came near him, and he gave them all the commands the Lord had given him on Mount Sinai.

33When Moses finished speaking to them, he put a veil over his face. 34But whenever he entered the Lord’s presence to speak with him, he removed the veil until he came out. And when he came out and told the Israelites what he had been commanded, 35they saw that his face was radiant. Then Moses would put the veil back over his face until he went in to speak with the Lord.

https://biblehub.com/niv/exodus/34.htm

raging moderate

(4,297 posts)
7. Absolutely correct!
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 02:11 PM
Sep 2020

Also, there are numerous injunctions to wash many things with an oil/ashes mixture (the original recipe for soap), to fight illnesses.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
8. I stand corrected.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 02:32 PM
Sep 2020

It does not look like the veil was a negative thing though. Unless I misunderstood.

tanyev

(42,552 posts)
9. Seems to me like he did it out of consideration for the Israelites,
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 02:48 PM
Sep 2020

who were afraid to come near him otherwise.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
11. Consideration......go figure.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:37 PM
Sep 2020

That is a word that the donald boy lovers took out of "their" Bible.

tanyev

(42,552 posts)
3. There is the ordeal of bitter water:
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:53 PM
Sep 2020

Vague enough that no fundie would accept that’s what it means, though.

Num. 5:24: He shall make the woman drink the water of bitterness that brings the curse, and the water that brings the curse shall enter her and cause bitter pain.

Again, if a husband makes an accusation against his wife, the very trial to determine whether the accusation is even true should involve the magical, ancient equivalent of a morning after pill.

Num. 5:25: The priest shall take the grain offering of jealousy out of the woman’s hand, and shall elevate the grain offering before the LORD and bring it to the altar;
Num. 5:26: and the priest shall take a handful of the grain offering, as its memorial portion, and turn it into smoke on the altar, and afterward shall make the woman drink the water.
Num. 5:27: When he has made her drink the water, then, if she has defiled herself and has been unfaithful to her husband, the water that brings the curse shall enter into her and cause bitter pain, and her womb shall discharge, her uterus drop, and the woman shall become an execration among her people.
Num. 5:28: But if the woman has not defiled herself and is clean, then she shall be immune and be able to conceive children.

Let’s address some technical things here. This is ABSOLUTELY describing an abortion or chemically induced (remember, she is drinking a potion after all) spontaneous miscarriage. I don’t care what “gotquestions.org” tells you, while the term ירך (yrk) in Num. 5:21 and 27 is the Hebrew word for the “upper thigh”, it is also the common Hebrew euphemism for things dealing with the genitals, like in Gen. 46:26, where the offspring of Jacob are referred to as the “ones going out of his thigh” (cf. Exod. 1:5). The same expression is used of Gideon in Judg. 8:30.

https://robertcargill.com/2015/08/19/on-god-ordained-abortion-inducing-magic-potions-and-jealous-husbands-shaming-their-wives-in-the-bible/
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