Representative David Howard Suggests Civil War if Obama is Re-Elected

[OmahaBlueDog]

http://intelligentdiscontent.com/2012/09/24/representative-david-howard-suggests-civil-war-if-obama-is-re-elected/

If we lose this election the Secular Socialist Democrats will place two more secular anti-American Justices on the Supreme Court and kill America from within.

This is reality and this will happen if we lose this election!

This could force American Patriots into a Civil war to regain our freedoms. Where we won’t be able to worry about being offended by what some people in a political party do or don’t do!

We’re not talking about some random constitutionalist living in the woods here, but someone the Republican Party in Montana has entrusted with a committee chairmanship in the Legislature. We’re talking about an elected official who is so far removed from reality that he honestly believed a civil war might be necessary if his side loses a political election.

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[jpbollma]

2. Is it sad

that so many on the right have said this that I just kind of yawned and didn't even want to comment on this? They are all nuts.

[flygal]

37. I sadly have to agree

My families are there and my poor mother tells me all the time she has to listen to "Obama the communist" crap from family and friends. They have no idea anyone else could possibly not agree with them.

It's not so much the tea baggers I see as the growing problem there as the "rural businessman" who thinks they are doing it all on their own - save for all the government contracts they get. I mean even the airport needs subsidizing for their business to stay alive. They all think if they don't pay taxes they'll be rich. Never mind their communities are all sucking now because they have no sidewalks or decent roads.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

74. Has it?

If Brian Schweitzer ran again he's likely be reelected, and Jon Tester has a good chance to hold his seat.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

101. I would suggest it's more like there are pockets of hate, not a statewide thing

You can go to any state and find clusters of towns and congressional districts that are just overloaded with wingnuts, even in blue states. MT still doesn't seem as bad as Wyoming or Idaho. But it can be an uphill struggle.

[BlueMTexpat]

103. As a Montanan by birth, with lots of family and friends there and

who just spent three weeks there this summer, I heartily agree that it can be an uphill struggle in pockets, but it is not a statewide thing. Just as Texans, Southerners and others take justifiable umbrage at being painted with a very broad brush by outsiders, I take umbrage with inaccurate characterizations of my home state from people who have never lived there and who seemingly don't have a clue except from travel posters and articles like this one.

Yes, MT has some true nitwits, just as MN has Michele Bachmann, WI has Scott Walker, MO, has Todd Akin, KS has Sam Brownbeck, TX has Rick Perry, etc., etc., etc. Even my adoptive state of MD, blue as it is, has idiots like Roscoe Bartlett!

Some of Montana's wingnuts stand out a bit more simply because they can't get lost in the crowd. Remember that there fewer than one million people in the entire state, which is the fourth largest US state in territory.

But remember also Brian Schweitzer and Denise Juneau at the DNC: they have LOTS of mainstream fans in MT. Jon Tester, while he has had to be much less liberal than I personally would like, is trending upwards; the Dem candidate for Gov is looking good and hopefully, the Dem candidate for Congress will prevail although that will definitely be an uphill struggle.

MT is also the state of Jeannette Rankin, who would NOT fit into today's GOP, and who helped with women's suffrage movements on an international level as well as in her home state. There is also the late great Mike Mansfield, whose center in Missoula is dedicated to promoting understanding of international affairs, particularly Asian affairs, and ethics in public affairs. http://www.umt.edu/mansfield/

People here should think about what they post. There are nutty individuals everywhere and sometimes it seems as if the nitwits are in the ascendant. But that does not mean that we here at DU should sink to their levels.

[BlueMTexpat]

105. Thanks for being logical! It is appreciated. eom

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

106. I'll be honest, there are states I am less charitable towards.

Like Wyoming and Idaho and Texas and Alabama, where it seems the idiocy is more widespread and dominates the vote at a larger level....but Montana seems to be one place that gets a bad rap when it really is a purple state.

[Dustlawyer]

131. Obviously Texas has more than it's share of wing nuts, but it has more to do with how

they were able to draw our Districts than anything else. We have a lot of Dems too but get no support from the DNC. At least this election, we get to see a few of Obama's commercials. It is hard to build when you get nothing to build with. The 50 state strategy of Howard Dean did more than anything to bring us out. We need more of that!

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

136. I feel for you....it must suck....

....but I also get sick of hearing "THIS is the year Perry/Cornyn/Hutchinson loses". Unless you get a really dynamic candidate like the fellow from San Antonio, I don't see it.

[Amonester]

3. Isn't 'suggesting' a civil war illegal?

There is a law againts 'suggesting' a civil war I think.

Why isn't he arrested on the basis of that law?

[freshwest]

14. It's been a theme since the last civil war with some groups.

[lpbk2713]

4. If it should come to that they would wage war rethuglican style.

They would send kids from poor families to do the fighting while the
rethugs would make lotsa money from bogus defense contracts.

[unblock]

5. i continue to be astounded; not that they cry for civil war, but that they DIDN'T in 2008

i mean, i totally get why someone might be fearful of a NEW president, and for whatever reasons imagine all sorts of scary things.

in fact, i EXPECTED this kind of language in 2008, for any democrat, let alone a black one.

but for the most part, this kind of talk was absent in 2008.


but second terms are notoriously predictable and ineffective. presidents rarely get signature legislation passed in second terms. we're somehow supposed to believe that obama will do damage in his second term he couldn't do in his first?

[freshwest]

16. Not in alternative and conspiracy media, it was definitely there then and is now mainstream.

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It was the beginning of the tea party before they got media attention. Give this unfortunately inflammatory link a good look. See the dates and understand that this is not new, it's been building:

http://www.infowars.com/about-alex-jones/

When you read people carrying on about the federal reserve, drone killings, civil liberties, the police or surveillance state, and other 'atrocities' under Obama, remember that they said it about Bush and Clinton, and see Obama as no different, part of a long line of tyrants.

Remember the militias under Clinton, the ones saying that Hillary was going to install death panels and communism with health care, and you'll see that none of this is new and that a generation born since Clinton has grow up with this world view. We don't want to believe that it is that bad, and ignore them at our peril.

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. a braziliion

good.

[WCGreen]

30. Art Bells show...

[kestrel91316]

77. Art Bell was on Coast to Coast. Alex Jones is the Infowars nut job.

Two completely different people.

[Tsiyu]

84. Yeah but now that inbreed John B. Wells

who does the weekend show ( and can't think up his own topics ) has Alex Jones on it seems every weekend.

Coast2Coast has gone from a fun show with insane callers to just another Obama-bashing format.

Noory is mediocre as the regular host; George Knapp is really good but he only gets an occasional show...

[kestrel91316]

92. You're being overly generous by calling Noory mediocre, lol.

Coast to Coast got so bad a year ago I finally turned it OFF. Now I go to sleep listening to staticky music on public radio (FM reception is much worse than AM and there are zero AM stations I wish to listen to at bedtime).

[Tsiyu]

119. I agree

but he has a few decent guests on from time to time.

I can stomach him a lot better than Wells.

What i did was print out a list of AM progressive stations around the country and I try to tune in late night, but it's hard to get them to remain tuned in for very long.

Radio is in a sad state, if you love radio.

Sweet dreams anyhow

[LiberalLovinLug]

93. Ian Pundint (?) is quite good

Is he not on weekends anymore? I too have not listened for awhile because of Noory bringing on Bagger Nuts to rail against the Communist tyranny of Obama. Noory is no Art Bell. Its as if he is pretending to be Bell, that he really IS interested in odd ball callers, but you can tell its just a job to him, a well paid job he wants to keep.

We can't work forever, but damn I miss Art.

[Tsiyu]

120. Yeah, Punnit's not bad

He does an occasional weekend but he's suffering from tinnitis pretty badly.

I miss Art, too. You just never knew who was going to call in and he never suffered fools, though he would let all sorts of amusing callers check in. It was a fun distraction if you were up all night.

Noory seems rather juvenile to me, and as if he's getting fanned and fed peeled grapes while his callers are talking. He'll check in after letting a guest or caller go on for a while and ask some inane question and you just think the guy is very disconnected from his own shows.

[WCGreen]

97. I remember when Bell had that call if you are the Anti-Christ show...

I had a car full of drunk people on the way home from a Cleveland Indians baseball game back when they were mowing over just about everyone. Everyone in the car but me was shit-faced and we were howling listening to the show.

[Tsiyu]

121. I think he had a special Anti-Christ line

from time to time. It WAS hilarious.

You just never knew what was coming next from a caller, and it was a lot of fun.

Oh, well, you know you're getting old when....

[HeeBGBz]

102. I met George Knapp. Nice guy.

Cool vibe.

[Tsiyu]

122. He should be the main host

I get a nice vibe from him as well. I can believe what you're saying about how he seemed when you met him.

He is respectful, attentive and he doesn't have an agenda, and he has an old school voice that gives the show a sort of vintage flavor.

Wells has a great Art-like deep voice, but he's as shallow as a cookie sheet when it comes to topics. He's agenda driven and desperately sucks up to libertarians and racists.

George Knapp for the win!

[Blue_Tires]

47. It's cowardice...They like to talk a big game

because they know they won't ever have to back it up...We all know if the shooting ever started, Howard would be one of the first ones sneaking across the Canadian border with a new identity...

[heaven05]

63. these

type of people were surprised, I think, by the election of Obama. They thought then that mccain-palin were going to win no matter the polls. Then they have had three years of hate radio to tell them about this black president being a muslim and non-citizen and angry. This presidential election and congressional races are anything but predictable as is the unpredictability of this nation surviving it's immense ignorance, stupidity and racism. These type of people have a precedent. Our civil war based on an unpopular president with unpopular ideas that racist pigs took offense with.

[still_one]

6. I will tell you something you POS howard, if President Obama is re-elected and you scum try to

over-throw the government, just maybe you and your ilk will end up in prison for treason

In fact, I might suggest that you are involved in sedition right now

[B Calm]

7. He's a scared little kid, what grade

is this guy in?

[hrmjustin]

8. hI think sometimes there is a contest to see who can say the most insane thing. n/t

[OmahaBlueDog]

9. I think that problem is created by AM talk radio

Rush, Hannity, Billo all have to keep saying something outrageous and pushing the envelope, or no one will listen. You'd might as well just listen to cattle futures. The problem is that a generation of politicians now mistake this for discourse.

[defacto7]

25. hear, hear!

[HooptieWagon]

110. True. The most outrageous host gets the most attention

and the highest ratings. Same reason the Kardashians and Paris Hilton exist, if you don't shock and awe you're quickly forgotten... so they continually have to outdo each other.

[donco]

10. I wonder where

they are going to get the grunts thata do the fighting for them?

[truebluegreen]

17. where they always get them.

[frylock]

11. these idiots know that obama has drones, right?

[OnyxCollie]

12. Guess who just got moved up on the list. nt

[Amonester]

13. 14th Amendment, SECTION 3...

Section 3.

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

[Care Acutely]

35. We should put this on a billboard in this goober's home town.

I'll bet we could get it cheap, and think of the media attention it would probably garner.

I'm serious about this.

[freshwest]

67. This POS is supported by the First Amendment, and the majority of the US HoR.

US House of Representatives total: 435
Republican Majority: 240
Democratic Minority: 190
With 5 vacancies.

Treason lost its meaning in the legal system. Sedition is almost never charged. Elected officials serve at the whim of their constituents and reflect their warped values and venality. Unless this particular POS, just one of many GOP, was literally incarcerated and denied the privilege of his office, he'd be re-elected for this screed. There is an entire generation brought up on the world view espoused by this POS, so he gets a pass.

Besides, he hasn't been charged with anything. There have been Republicans calling for revolution and killing Obama for quite some time now, and nothing has ever been done about it. And as long as they hold majority in states and the House of Representatives, nothing will ever be done.

When we had Democratic majorities in D.C. in the Nixon era, there were enough people to hold him to account. He resigned because he knew their next move was impeachment. They would have rightfully done so, to protect the political system, considering his guilt, which was proved in criminal court. His conspirators went to prison in his stead.

He left office and Ford used his privilege immediately to pardon him for those crimes. Then Carter was elected to get back to where we needed to be and the eternal enemy of democratic government reared its traitorous head again and has never stopped being in control. People that want to blame Obama for the direction this country is in, and has been headed on for over thirty years must be political neophytes or swallowed Fox, libertarian and conspiracy lies of all three media.

This gang has been steadily transforming this country with Koch monies, right wing religion and media. They have been playing on the easily corrupted, with a long term game that has changed the culture of this country. If they weren't so destructive, I'd give them a high five.

I wish that the Section of the 14th you quoted was taken seriously in this country. Proabably less than a 1/3rd of the voters even comprehend the language contained in the Constitution anymore. Most likely, 1/3 believe the Constitution as revised by Falwell, Robertson and every scummy GOP who has a bull horn.

[Poll_Blind]

135. +1

PB

[nolabear]

15. Oh he can bite me twice.

I swear. Prima Donna politicians.

[Marr]

19. I believe that's called terrorism.

Or, if you want to be exceedingly generous, sedition.

[AlbertCat]

20. What does that even mean?

Yes, sedition is insidious and treasonous...

But this man makes no sense. What " Secular Socialist Democrats"? Who's really socialist? "two more secular anti-American Justices on the Supreme Court"??? Two MORE? Who are the anti-American judges there now (besides Alito and Thomas)

Who the hell is trying to "kill" America?

"This is reality" No. This is paranoid nuttiness.

"Where we won’t be able to worry about being offended by what some people in a political party do or don’t do!" That's his definition of our freedoms?

Has he ever been to the USA? Planet Earth?

[Bucky]

42. I think it means we get start shooting Republicans.

[justiceischeap]

49. Secularist is a fancy word for Godless heathens

He means the Democratic party is filled with Godless heathens who will nominate Godless heathen Supreme Court Justices.

[treestar]

58. And what is so wrong with "secular" ? isn't there a secular part of life,

even for religious people? There's never been a theocracy in the US, so there's no valid claim that "secularism" is not American

[LiberalAndProud]

80. Maybe we should read up on it.

I believe the man wants to replace our government with his religion.

[vduhr]

69. That was my question on that last part too.

"Where we won’t be able to worry about being offended by what some people in a political party do or don’t do!"

So he is proposing a civil war that would result in not allowing opposing views? Do I have that correct? Holy crap!

[AlbertCat]

70. "we won’t be ABLE to worry..."

Sounds like he wants to cut part of our brains out.


Just gibberish. He doesn't even know what the words he put together mean.

It's a GOP tradition.... since Dubya.

[Populist_Prole]

21. Right. Start another one; and LOSE another one. Wave your flag vigorously nonetheless.

The loudmouth firebrands get the regular schlubs to to actually do the dirty work. Wait....didn't that already happen?

[Kennah]

22. Fucknut David Howard and friends ain't gonna do shit ...

... and there are over one million reasons why.

http://siadapp.dmdc.osd.mil/personnel/MILITARY/history/hst1112.pdf

[SheilaT]

23. I'm wondering exactly what freedoms he has lost.

[bunnies]

40. Freedom not to have a black President.

[Bucky]

43. The right to lose marbles

[jtuck004]

24. That is gonna be such a great pic. David Howard standing there with a hunting rifle,

peeing his pants, while looking at the two missiles the drone is getting ready to present him for his patriotism. Blue Montana sky in the background. And mountains, lots of mountains...

Has the Republican party been invaded by a group of clones with brains from the 1500's? Maybe aliens that just got old signals from earth, bad radio waves or something? I mean, it's one thing to have different ideas, but there is a group inside that seems to have all the awareness of some European invader in early North America.

Their campaigning skills are quite good, as are their organizing skills. But what's on the inside is just mush.

[amandabeech]

27. No drones. n/t

[heaven05]

66. maybe

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I don't understand the whole picture here with all the pooh pahing and joking, but jerks like this got voted into office.To me that means there are a lot of people that think like this jerk, therefore, it is only logical that there are large numbers of these dangerous, seditious americans. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so. Where it was the south last time, the western states, western from my geographic location, seem to be going into racist apoplexy. keep your power dry.

[jtuck004]

79. Oh, there are numbers, and they are good at polictics.

Our opponents have been on a long-term mission, year after year, working on school board races, muni, county, and state races, because they know local is where they can have great influence. They are very good at campaigning, and organizing, and many are as willing to see the country in ruins as win.

But getting together and laughing over your racist jokes is far different from facing the US Government, which is exactly who they would be fighting.

In a recent glorious mission we killed tens of thousands of soldiers, at least hundreds while they were trying to surrender, burying some of them alive with their stupid white flags, shooting them in the back as they gave up and ran. White flags - funny - like they thought we had any compassion. (Watching too many American movies, perhaps). We sent, and send, missiles in to their neighborhoods, sometimes blowing babies clean through the roof. Makes people like that guy feel tough, what with cardboard airplanes carrying real missiles. Our current President even says the War Powers Act lets him kill any American anywhere in the world without a trial if they can call them a credible threat. We have working drones 20 minutes away from the person in Montana, on the border. No missiles. Not yet.

We are so much better at killing than this cretin gives us credit for. He has no conception of what a civil war would bring.

I am guessing they have been watching Independence Day, (where a kid Patrick fights the Russians in the mountains of the U.S. with his hunting rifle). But they forgot it was a movie.

It all hot air, and stupid hot air at that.

[heaven05]

107. yep

that movie was 'Red Dawn'. ten four on the rest of that War ain't pretty and movies can't begin to reflect the reality. I'd like a world without war, but that won't happen in my lifetime. We hate each on this planet.

[jtuck004]

109. The real "killer" about your last statement - I'm not sure we have to.

I think we are taught - just like we are taught to like meat in the U.S. - because there are people who profit from it. We are chained by them, with chains of our own friggin' making, and it shapes our behavior.

The really tragic part is that most of us have the capability of questioning and rejecting that behavior as harmful, but we don't.

[heaven05]

132. yep

you're right. We don"t have to. Yet that's all I see around me this political season, hate. DU has helped to keep balance in an unbalanced world. It does let me know there are real people out in the wicked world that care. For me ,I know without it, I would just crawl in a cave and pull the rock behind me to close it. Never to come out again.

[jtuck004]

133. That's the problem with living in a cave. One misses things they think are good <G>

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[Incitatus]

26. Ok , then round up some teabsggers and march

to take over the nearest Army base.

Good luck

[mechtech]

28. civil war

I actually heard a similar bizarre rant this evening.
I had all I could do to bite my tongue ...
I finally spoke... He was stunned and confused...
Totaly thanks to Fox news lies.

[winstars]

29. Ahhh, OK, I will be ready then. Since I have a functioning brain, I am not too worried about these

"people"....


"I know some people, well, they're (their?) not exactly people....... But for $50 bucks they will break..."

Woody Allen
Broadway Danny Rose

[Great Caesars Ghost]

31. If this happens...

The right will be in for a surprise. We aren't always about peace, love and understanding.

[oldbanjo]

90. You've got that right.

[isitreal5555]

32. new bumper sticker

keep your religious hands off my Govment!!

[ErikJ]

36. +1

[tomm2thumbs]

33. the 'civil war' will be within the Republican Party.... and once it is over, there will be no party

they are darn near that place as it is... I think the country is going to see its demise very soon.

like after the election

[ErikJ]

34. Will it be legal to kill in-laws then?

Cuz I have couple real wingnut ones.

[RetroGamer1971]

38. Wishful Thinking

I think the gentleman is dreaming. His remarks are certainly distressing though!

[DiverDave]

39. He took an OATH to uphold the constitution.

and the FBI should have him under the hot lights RIGHT NOW.
Unless,of course, they AGREE with him.

[Bucky]

41. If Obama is reelected, a two-headed calf will be born! Dogs will recite the Satanic Verses!

Over-easy fried eggs will be indistinguishable from sunny-side-ups!! OMG!!!!1!

[Evasporque]

44. Those gun hoarding paranoid morons are not Patriots...

They need to be medicated.

[desertduck]

45. Again??? This isn't new....but it is interesting to see desperation. Enjoy your tea while you can.

I see a GOP abandonment in your future.

[johnlucas]

46. Somebody better tell him this ain't 1860. Warfare has advanced very much since then

It would be the quickest war won in U.S. history should these fools try a rerun of 1860.
They better get their heads on straight before Obama sends them to Guantánamo.

That'll be one campaign promise they wish he woulda fulfilled SHO'NUFF.
John Lucas

[bemildred]

48. Are you going to run the ridges with your long rifle dude?

Blow up the Yankee trains?

[CBGLuthier]

50. Not another civil war. Another REVOLUTION. That is what they are talking about.

[Amonester]

123. Their 'revolution' will (would, since they're not going to start one) be...

Very.Short.Lived.

[WinkyDink]

51. Is it actually possible that some of our elected officials BELIEVE FOX, Rush, Glenn, Sean, etc.???

[City Lights]

52. He needs a psych evaluation.

He sounds like he's a danger to himself and others.

[porphyrian]

53. Didn't one of the Texas freakshow say something similar recently?

I'm seldom convinced politicians are really voicing their own convictions, but that probably means this talk is getting to them from their constituents, so someone is talking like this. Ready, FBI?

[Botany]

54. I'm scared!

[Amaril]

96. Why are a lot of their nutjobs ORANGE?

Could the rampant nuttiness in their ranks be a side effect of inhaling too much spray tan goo?

[Botany]

100. And he is sporting a head animal too

as far as he color I have no clue to what is up with that.

BTW he looks like he take on an M1-A1 tank himself ..... what a man.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

108. Hope he's prepared to get his glasses

broke and that purty haircut messed up.

[DollarBillHines]

111. Well, you haven't seen him in deerskin and coonskin hat with his tomahawk and long musket. nt

[JHB]

55. How could the SSD's possibly lose since blue-helmeted Chinese troops have ruled us since 1997?!

Some of the very same people were equally confident that Clinton would invite the Red Chinese Army in under UN flag if he won in 1996, yet somehow my Chinese is still limited to "nihao" and several menu items.

This guy has black helicopters in his belfry.

[muriel_volestrangler]

56. This is what happens when you have tiny electorates

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/David_Howard_%28Montana_legislator%29

Howard was unopposed in 2010. In 2008, he was elected with 2,635 votes. In most places, that would get you on to a city council. In Montana, it gets you into the state legislature, chairing one committee, and serving on 3 others. The man is clearly out of his depth, and out of his mind.

[4lbs]

57. Montana's Democratic Governor needs to tell this guy to take a chill pill.

Calling "Dr." Schweizter.

[99Forever]

59. As if this assclown or any of his half dozen other fellow...

... assclowns present an actual threat to the most heavily armed military the world has ever seen.

Sounds like there would be some much needed thinning of the herd. Let's hope Ol' Crappypants Teddie the Nuge joins their ranks.

[sorefeet]

60. I Live in Montana

and it ain't because the people are so nice, It's honestly because of three season of the weather that is almost perfect.
The AM radio is 24/7 right wing Limbaugh , Beck, Hannity, Savage and all the crazy shit that comes with them. The wanna be small time morning talk is just full of conspiracy call ins. They all got lots of guns but only the young ones are fit, the old fucks are just that, loud mouth blow hards full of hate and racism and God. Pretty much all of the racism has been passed down over the years, I have met and I do know some very ignorant people. You just have to shake your head at some of the shit I hear, it's nauseating. It's definately got it's clicks that I just stay away from.
Maybe with more population it will turn blue, but it will be slow, I don't know, my buddy says it's purple now.
I'm retired now and having second thoughts about living here because of the politics ESPECIALLY medical marijuana. Doctors treat me like a criminal. Every one is profiled as a drug seeker if you are in pain. They are the ones that diagnosed ME with the painful disease of neuropathy. I have had questions answered with you can't pin that one on me and one stuck his fingers in his ear and said la la la la. I don't feel comfortable or safe with these quacks.
I am thinking on the lines of maybe Oregon or Colorado. I love all kinds of berries and I can't get them to grow very good where I'm at.
Montana you are some of the most beautiful scenery and weather on the planet, but your true generational born Montanas are 30 or 40 years behind the times of the rest of this world.

[OmahaBlueDog]

112. We need to raise some money and buy you folks some Pacifica stations

Bring "Democracy Now" and some other counter programming to Butte, Helena, and Bozeman.

[caseymoz]

61. Another of Reagan's offspring.

This guy's a product of a generation of Republican propaganda. So void of any connection to reality, he practically lives in a Hollywood movie.

[heaven05]

62. well

I'm not yawning, these people are serious and yes, keep your powder dry.

[W T F]

64. THAT'S TREASON!!!! PUNISHABLE BY DEATH!!!!!

Suddenly, I'm all for the death penalty.

[jonesgirl]

73. Fuck the death penalty...I'm all for public punishment. They want to talk about civil war, well lets

take em back to those days when public torture was the norm.

[Kablooie]

65. It may be an interesting time when Obama wins again.

Let's hope it won't fulfill the old Chinese curse.

[HipChick]

68. same idiots have been talking about this since 2008 election

[jonesgirl]

71. Is this suppose to be a fucking scare tactic or what!? Romney and his entire party are determined

to start a fucking war on American soil whether they win or lose.
Romney is poison

[Shampoobra]

72. Dang it!

How are we gonna kill America from within, now that the American Patriots won’t be able to worry about being offended by what some people in a political party do or don’t do because they're too busy shooting us in an effort to regain their freedoms?

It's been a long, hard journey for us Secular Socialist Democrats, working tirelessly to kill America from within and destroy our freedoms. And now Representative David Howard and his army are going to shoot us for it!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

75. "This could force American Patriots into a Civil war to regain our freedoms."

Oh yeah? You and who's army?

[elbloggoZY27]

76. What a LULU.

This has to be the dumbest comment posted but their are citizens right here in the United States that really dislike President Obama and that's what is really scary.

Lets remember that the Goop's number one Agenda is to oust the President and that was from day one.

Per "POGO" by Walt Kelly.

"WE HAVE MET THE ENEMY AND HE IS US"

[ikl]

78. Civil war

Civil war is what the Republican conservative right and Obama haters have been wishing for from the time Obama mentioned he was going to run for office of the president.
They have also been telling their people to stock up on arms and ammo.
They has been full of anger since then,and since it is looking like he might win this election again they are so full of rage that they can not see straight.
They see everything only in Black and White,you are either with us,or against us.

I also truly believe that this nut case is right,and they Will take to their Guns this time,just look at the fear and listen to their rants and fear mongering it is like it will be then end of the world,Armageddon,Rapture time,if Obama wins again.
they will take to their guns while quoting their favorite line that "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

[jonesgirl]

81. Blah blah blah. I could understand the loser better if he took the sh!t out of his mouth.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

82. Well, he certainly looks the part of a rootin' tootin' rebel.

Or, a seller of of aluminum siding for barns.

[libodem]

83. Has he ever heard of

Sedition? Traitor.

[Caeser67]

85. Faketriots

[Javaman]

86. meh, yet another crazy repuke who thinks...

he has more power, more influence than he really does.

massive ego combined with a grandiose sense of self usually are the ingredients for this crazy ass screed.

[thelarge]

87. STEER DUST!

Everyone knows that Repugs don't fight wars! They send poor people! Who are they going to recruit? Undocumented immigrants? Rep. Howard, hie thee to a small lad!

[MysticLynx]

88. Let them go

seriously I think as a nation our biggest mistake was in fighting the civil war in the first place. Ever since we have been jumping through hoops trying to keep the 'rebels' appeased up to and including in most cases supporting them financially. Check the facts, without the Union, most of these states are not and will never be viable on their own. Let them succeed, most of them will end up failing economically etc and will petition to come back to the union. And this time we can forgo all the garbage of trying to 'appease' the southern sensitivities, that has created much harm in order to maintain the union.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

89. Let 'em go.

I'm sick of 'em.

[dorksied]

91. This fits under the definition of "Sedition", which is a chargeable offense.

I'd like to see some legal action on this.

[Arugula Latte]

94. He also used an incomplete sentence: "Where we won't be able to worry about ..."

Where's the predicate, dumbass?

[on point]

95. This is an example of why delusional based religious thinking can be dangerous

[Zoeisright]

99. Report him to the FBI. I did!

https://tips.fbi.gov/

[liberal N proud]

104. Their hate is that old and that deep.

Piety the ignorance of these sick people. It must be miserable to live in their skin.

Gawd!

[mwooldri]

113. WTF is a "secular socialist democrat" ??

I guess he's referring to

a) someone who can keep their religion outside of government...
b) someone who supports strong communities...
c) someone who supports full democracy...

Does that make him a "theological individualistic autocrat"? I guess he had better find residence in Vatican City because that's the only place on earth that I know meets two of his objectives within his presumed faith... if he were to convert to Islam then Iran would be perfect for him.

[socialindependocrat]

114. To regain what freedoms? It's the concervatives who are forcing

people to surrender to their conservative religious laws.

They are restricting our right to choose!

Again, their neurotic projection is beyond belief!

Put them all in a home.
Give them free food and lodging
Give them free medical care
Pay the $180K a year and don't make them work for it.

And listen to them complain about socialism!

[B Stieg]

115. So sedition is no longer a crime?

Several of these birds, along with their brothers in Texas, seem to come awfully close.

[DearHeart]

126. There have been many RWs committing sedition, if not Treason

I truly don't understand why no one has been charged, especially Mitch McConnell and the turds he conspires with.

[DearHeart]

127. BTW...welcome to DU fellow newbie!

[papa3times]

116. Have at it you tea bag chicken shit-hawk

like most of your chicken-hawk republican colleagues you always talk tough. Go ahead and grab a gun and challenge the U.S. military you dim-wit! Like most of your chicken shit-hawk friends you will be running so fast when the first bullet wizzes over your head you will turn tail and probably out run the bullet. What a pathetic loser.

[Amonester]

124. Bingo. They sure love to talk tough, but when (if) their shits hit the fan...

they'd be the first ones to run away screamin' for their pathetic lives.

[allan01]

118. re:Representative David Howard Suggests Civil War if Obama is Re-Elected

boot the traitor out of office on election day.

[rks306]

125. Armed resistance

Isn't their something that we can do about a idiot like this. If the State had any sense they would vote him out of office. Maybe that is wishful thinking.

[McCamy Taylor]

128. Earth to idiots! If Obama was really the anti-Christ he would have brought about

Armageddon during his first term. The anti-Christ does not care if he is a one or two term president. The anti-Christ does not need a "mandate" to destroy the world.

You know what really chaps the right wing's ass? They knew that 2008 was going to be a Democratic year. After 8 years of W. and two stolen elections, there was no way the nation was going to give the WH to the GOP again. They figured that if a Black guy won, he would be easy to beat in 2012 when voters stopped being mad at W. and suddenly took a good look at their president and said to themselves "Dear Lord! Our president is a _____!"

Shows what the right wing knows. Now they have to pin their hopes on voter suppression and E-vote fraud----all under the watchful eye of Eric Holder who will send them to jail if they get caught.

[oldsarge54]

129. Result of the 2nd Amendment mentality

Really, one of the major arguments about guns for everybody is to defend themselves from the government. In Texas, everyone of the militias with a web site in their mission statement claim they are to defend the constitution. What they fail to say is who decides. Real militias, the ones we had before the National Guard act, were inspected and regulated by the states. These modern "militias" report to no local, state, or national authority, and citing Thomas Jefferson as their spiritual source, believe themselves to be the counterbalance to central government.

The funny, really actually funny thing, is that Thomas Jefferson was an anarchist. He did not believe in any government above a township. Thomas Jefferson was really our first OWS member (unless you count Ben Franklin).

The real problem, in all seriousness, is that we have a Texas Judge of the same opinion (in Texas, judges are the executive branch of the county government, no necessarily bench sitting judges with legal training, just elected). These Republicans have a habit of talking themselves into believing and ACTING on those delusions that they convince themselves are real. Consider Mitt's 47% comment.

[duhneece]

130. Lubbock judge said the same

"...A Lubbock County judge is making headlines after suggesting that President Obama might hand over sovereignty of the United States to the United Nations, possibly igniting in a civil war.

In an interview with Fox 34 News in Lubbock, County Judge Tom Head said that if re-elected, Obama was "going to try to hand over the sovereignty of the United States to the U.N. Okay, what’s going to happen when that happens? I’m thinking worst case scenario here. Civil unrest, civil disobedience, civil war maybe. We’re not just talking a few riots here and demonstrations. We’re talking Lexington-Concord take up arms and get rid of the guy."

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-courts/texas-judicial-system/county-judge-civil-war-could-ensue-obama-re-electe/

The nuts must be on the same grapevine (sorry for the mixed metaphor!)

[LeftishBrit]

134. Good grief; that's vile

There were too many people like him 150 years ago. I thought that that had changed.

And it is not 'patriotic', in fact rather the opposite, to plunge your country into civil war because you are 'offended' by the opposite political party.