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Where does "states are over reporting cases (of virus) to get more funding" come from? (Original Post) triron Sep 2020 OP
There was a post a while back that showed how Phoenix61 Sep 2020 #1
My guess, the pits of hell. mucifer Sep 2020 #2
You probably won't get a reply. Mariana Sep 2020 #3
Sounds like he pulled it out of his C_U_L8R Sep 2020 #4
Joni Ernst (Iowa senator) claimed that in a speech about a month ago rurallib Sep 2020 #5
Still there's no source for her claim either. live love laugh Sep 2020 #7
I know, but Ernst's comments gave it lots of publicity rurallib Sep 2020 #9
Right wingers have been saying this for many months. live love laugh Sep 2020 #12
Right-wing media TwilightZone Sep 2020 #6
If he hands you anything, make sure it's wrapped in plastic and wear rubber gloves JHB Sep 2020 #8
I recall reading this somewhere.... DBoon Sep 2020 #10
There is always a RWNJ conspiracy to explain away reality Thomas Hurt Sep 2020 #11

Phoenix61

(16,993 posts)
1. There was a post a while back that showed how
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:47 PM
Sep 2020

much money each state received in Covid funds from the federal government and someone/newspaper (?) posted how much per covid patient that amounted to. The money was NOT distributed based on that and the chart showed how NY got very little per case while ND got a lot per case. So, as best as I can guess some dumbass didn’t bother to read the article that went with the graph.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
3. You probably won't get a reply.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:54 PM
Sep 2020

If you do, the "source" will be some nutty right-wing work of fiction.

There's really no point in trying to have a serious conversation with someone who just parrots lies.

rurallib

(62,379 posts)
5. Joni Ernst (Iowa senator) claimed that in a speech about a month ago
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:59 PM
Sep 2020
https://iowastartingline.com/2020/09/01/ernst-suggests-iowa-doctors-falsifying-covid-cases-for-money2/

Iowa Sen. Joni Ernst seemed to embrace on Monday a thoroughly-discredited QAnon conspiracy theory about U.S. deaths from COVID-19 being a mere fraction of what has been reported. As Amie Rivers of the Waterloo Cedar Falls Courier reported, Ernst said she was “so skeptical” of the official death count when asked by an attendee if the government was over-reporting coronavirus deaths.

“They’re thinking there may be 10,000 or less deaths that were actually singularly COVID-19,” Ernst said, seemingly referring to the debunked conspiracy theory that only around 6% of COVID-19 deaths were due to the virus. “I’m just really curious. It would be interesting to know that.”

Going even further, however, Ernst also suggested that doctors were intentionally falsifying coronavirus cases in order to receive more money for caring for the patient.

“These health care providers and others are reimbursed at a higher rate if COVID is tied to it, so what do you think they’re doing?” she questioned the crowd.

Ernst, who made the comments during an event in Black Hawk County with State Rep. Ashley Hinson, told the Courier that she had “heard the same thing on the news,” but wasn’t positive that was the case.

The reimbursement rate theory has been around since early this year, ever since a Minnesota legislator made the claim in a Fox News interview. However, as FactCheck.org wrote, “multiple experts told us that such theories of hospitals deliberately miscoding patients as COVID-19 are not supported by any evidence.”


rurallib

(62,379 posts)
9. I know, but Ernst's comments gave it lots of publicity
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:05 PM
Sep 2020

That was about the first I heard of it.

I kind of doubt anyone has an original source, but we do have some of the cases where the story became mainstream.

live love laugh

(13,079 posts)
12. Right wingers have been saying this for many months.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:48 PM
Sep 2020

I was on sleazy sites like Turning Point and Breitbart in April and May. This was frequently spewed by their crazies. It’s just another of the baseless lies which they try to mainstream using repetition.

JHB

(37,154 posts)
8. If he hands you anything, make sure it's wrapped in plastic and wear rubber gloves
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:02 PM
Sep 2020

Maybe scrub it down with a toilet brush before reading, too.

Because the real source is pretty obvious.

DBoon

(22,340 posts)
10. I recall reading this somewhere....
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:28 PM
Sep 2020

That there is some compensation for reporting cause of death to cover costs to the organization reporting the death.

That in some cases extra compensation is paid for certain causes, to cover extra costs involved in determining those causes (such as maybe Covid tests). Covid is one such case, there are others.

That this is no a money maker for any organization and is not a real incentive to falsify death reports.

There are also other controls that ensure harsh penalties for providing false information.

So it is a routine practice meant to compensate for extra reporting costs and does not provide any incentive to falsely report deaths.

Wish I could provide sources.

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