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Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:41 AM

Are the folks at Politico delusional...?

I don't want to link to the article because I don't want to give it any more exposure, but they have a piece up suggesting that Trump is now "riding high" after RBG's death, and that the naming of a new Justice will be just what he needs to bring back a whole bevy of anti-abortion voters into his camp, "flipping the script" and possibly allowing him to pull off a come-from-behind victory in November (although they grant he has a tendency to "blow it" when put in a strong position).

My initial question: what strong position???

It seems to me that the notion that there is a yuge hidden army of right-to-lifers out there who aren't already firmly in his camp, and haven't been there since 2016, seems utterly fanciful at best. And, considering that the one poll that has come out so far shows respondents opposed to Trump being able to fill the vacancy by a 51%-42% margin, I utterly fail to see how it's going to net him a large share of voters who wouldn't have backed him until now -- in fact, it would seem to be more likely to hurt him with voters than help him.

Am I missing something here?


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Reply Are the folks at Politico delusional...? (Original post)
regnaD kciN Sep 20 OP
msongs Sep 20 #1
lunatica Sep 20 #2
JI7 Sep 20 #3
LeftInTX Sep 20 #4
SunSeeker Sep 20 #7
Nexus2 Sep 20 #12
radius777 Sep 20 #5
Eid Ma Clack Shaw Sep 20 #13
BainsBane Sep 20 #6
SunSeeker Sep 20 #10
LeftInTX Sep 20 #11
rockfordfile Sep 20 #18
RDANGELO Sep 20 #8
dchill Sep 20 #9
Steven Maurer Sep 20 #14
crimycarny Sep 20 #15
yuiyoshida Sep 20 #16
RBGForever Sep 20 #17
DeminPennswoods Sep 20 #19
pecosbob Sep 20 #20
SharonClark Sep 20 #21

Response to regnaD kciN (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:44 AM

1. politico is doing whatever it can to make some $$$. rumors, whatever nt

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Response to regnaD kciN (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:44 AM

2. You're right on.

His dismal approval rating is not going to budge and hasnít for the last year. Maybe even the last 4 years.

Well actually itís gone down.

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Response to regnaD kciN (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:49 AM

3. There are some there that REALLY REALLY wants him to stay in office

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Response to regnaD kciN (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:50 AM

4. I agree with Politico unfortunately

All news is good news when it comes to Trump

The loss of RBG, puts him back in the spotlight. The general public won't know too much about the nominee. If it's a woman, they will think, "How nice". It distracts voters from all the other shitty stuff that he's doing. All of sudden Covid isn't front page news anymore.

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Last night, I was sitting in my car at Sonic, texting my friends. I suddenly got an alert on my phone, but I didn't get a text pop-up. Wishfully, I was hoping that Trump had died. I asked my friends and they told me it was just another Amber Alert..sigh...


Why can't he die??????????????

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #4)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:08 AM

7. Covid was pushed off the front page for a few days, but it isn't staying off.

People continue to die by the thousands. Schools are going back with no safeguards or testing plans, so infections will skyrocket, made worse by the flu season.

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #4)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:39 AM

12. Its like hatred, spite and divisiveness keep him alive.

Like some bizarre psychic vampire. Or maybe its his 'good genes'.

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Response to regnaD kciN (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:55 AM

5. Agree. If anything RBG's death will move the left

in ways that Biden himself could not. Trump already moves the right.

The MSM is operating under the conventional wisdom that 'the Right votes on supreme court, Left does not'. This may be true in a generic sense but not when a liberal icon like RBG and her legacy is essentially 'on the ballot'. There is deep sadness and anger in the air, which will motivate the left and anti-Trump voters in general (women, moderates, etc).

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Response to radius777 (Reply #5)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 04:14 AM

13. Anyone would think there wasn't a vacancy in 2016

the religious nut jobs will vote for Trump anyway, because they all think heís the greatest god to ever do godly things. The support heís lost and Biden has gained isnít coming from that demographic.

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Response to regnaD kciN (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:05 AM

6. Right-wingers who were going to sit out the election

are less likely to do so now. The court is everything to the right.

It just occurred to me that this is a reason for Trump not to put through a nominee until after the election.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #6)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:13 AM

10. Right wingers who would be with him because of the Court are already with him.

This won't bring the Never Trumpers back into the GOP fold.

Look what Lincoln Project Never Trumpers just put out:




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Response to BainsBane (Reply #6)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:26 AM

11. I think getting a new judge on the bench will invigorate right-wingers

We're so fucked......
Unless Trump nominates a real turd like Barr or Dick Cheney etc.

He's gonna nominate a woman, and these women are not highly known. Additionally they can't use the same kind of questioning like they did the Kavanaugh.

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #11)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:19 AM

18. No and Americans are ready to vote trump out

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Response to regnaD kciN (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:11 AM

8. I don't think it is going to change much. This election has been locked in since mid June.

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Response to regnaD kciN (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:13 AM

9. Politico - delusional.

Synonyms.

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Response to regnaD kciN (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 04:50 AM

14. Media outlets desperately want horseraces too close to call

That's what sells eyeballs.

Further, the right wing gets angry at articles that point out that facts don't line up with what they want, while Democrats are obsessive hand wringers.

So of course they know the way to make money is to post this kind of stuff. Don't put any credence in it.

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Response to regnaD kciN (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 05:12 AM

15. I never read Politico anymore

I stopped reading Politico articles about 6(?) months ago. They seemed to have a shift in their reporting from informational to opinion/sensational. Did they have a change in ownership?

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Response to regnaD kciN (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 05:12 AM

16. Excuse me but, I heard Steve Schmidt say Trump was on the run

That he is really way behind in the polls and is in a panic.. Both can't be true...

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Response to regnaD kciN (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 05:48 AM

17. I think they're being careful

 

I certainly thought Trump was done back in 2016, never would have thought he would be able to get even 40% of the vote after everything that had come out about him.

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Response to regnaD kciN (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:22 AM

19. Trump was getting the anti-abortion voters regardless

They are the craziest, but most devoted to whatever candidate spouts a "pro-life" position whether the candidates believes it or not (in Trump's case).

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Response to regnaD kciN (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:36 AM

20. Politico is a mouthpiece of the one percent...they will always find a conservative angle

Some people here often like to spread their spin on things...both siderism, normalizaton, etc. The same sort of people that believe Susan Collins when she says she is concerned, or the New York times Editorial department when they say anything at all.

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Response to regnaD kciN (Original post)

Sun Sep 20, 2020, 10:59 AM

21. There several articles on Politico regarding the election.

Are your refering to one of these?

Ginsburg's death gives GOP an edge in 2020 legal fights by JOSH GERSTEIN
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/20/ginsburgs-death-gives-gop-an-edge-in-2020-legal-fights-418672

The left channels its fury toward McConnell by HOLLY OTTERBEIN
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/19/the-left-channels-its-fury-toward-mcconnell-418542

Check In 2020: How RBG's open seat impacts the election by Eugene Daniels
https://www.politico.com/video/2020/09/19/check-in-2020-how-rbgs-open-scotus-seat-impacts-the-election-091111

Pelosi: House has 'arrows in our quiver' to delay SCOTUS nomination by AUBREE ELIZA WEAVER
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/20/pelosi-house-supreme-court-nomination-418773

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