Conservative women

[NYCButterfinger]

What do you think of them?

I don't care if you are a conservative woman. Women don't have to be uniformly progressive or whatever, but why do you think they are aggressively pro-life?

[vlyons]

1. Brain-washed by religion

nt

[demmiblue]

2. And patriarchy. n/t

[no_hypocrisy]

3. They feel threatened by women who want equal rights.

My guess is that we will "ruin everything" for them. They're the kind of women revolutionist Emma Goldman called "Legal Prostitutes."

[LizBeth]

4. Religion that tells them so.

[The Genealogist]

5. I can cite my aunt by marriage as an example

She is an authoritarian and a religious extremist, poorly educated and pretty simple-minded. Best I can tell is that she is pro-life because someone with authority over her (namely my uncle) told her that she is pro-life. And so she is. And he is pro-life because RW hate radio told him to be.

[qwlauren35]

6. They love babies.

They think there is always more room for another baby. You just adjust.

Grandparents, aunts, uncles, pitch in, and help raise the child.

But no abortions. If you start a life, you have the baby. Anything else is murder.

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*I* do not believe this. But there are people who do.

[Yavin4]

8. One caveat. They love "White" babies.

They do not care if non-White babies are aborted. See the lack of hue and cry over the sterilzation of migrant women.

[NYCButterfinger]

9. Um, they are Black conservative women as well....Condi Rice, Kim Klacik, etc.

[Yavin4]

10. But they're not as pro-life.

At least they have not said that they were.

[NYCButterfinger]

12. True, it depends

[Yavin4]

13. Pro-Lifers tend to be White people who want more White babies.

They see the demographic writing on the wall.

[NYCButterfinger]

15. I don't know about that, I have an Asian neighbor, she is pro-life

My cousin's friend is a Afro-Latina conservative, she is pro-life.

Pro-life shouldn't have anything to do with race.

I have heard pro-life activists say that pro-choice people want to "murder babies" to reduce the white population, I don't know about that.

Abortion should have nothing to do with race.

Period.

[Yavin4]

17. Of course there are true believers, but...

the whole emphasis of the movement is for the preservation of White babies. I would add that Catholic pro-lifers tend to be more legitimate because they're also against the death penalty and they care about the treatment of migrant women.

But the rank and file, Republican pro-lifers are all about demographics.

[qwlauren35]

25. I was talking about black women.

And most of them are Democrats. But they are conservative, very Christian, and pro-life, even if they don't use that term.

[RhodeIslandOne]

27. And also don't care for gay people.

They may not be openly hostile, but the truth comes out over time.

[mercuryblues]

7. They are only ANTI-CHOICE

until they or their daughters have an unexpected pregnancy.

https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/

The only moral abortion is my abortion

“I have done several abortions on women who have regularly picketed my clinics, including a 16 year old schoolgirl who came back to picket the day after her abortion, about three years ago. During her whole stay at the clinic, we felt that she was not quite right, but there were no real warning bells. She insisted that the abortion was her idea and assured us that all was OK. She went through the procedure very smoothly and was discharged with no problems. A quite routine operation. Next morning she was with her mother and several school mates in front of the clinic with the usual anti posters and chants. It appears that she got the abortion she needed and still displayed the appropriate anti views expected of her by her parents, teachers, and peers.” (Physician, Australia)

“I’ve had several cases over the years in which the anti-abortion patient had rationalized in one way or another that her case was the only exception, but the one that really made an impression was the college senior who was the president of her campus Right-to-Life organization, meaning that she had worked very hard in that organization for several years. As I was completing her procedure, I asked what she planned to do about her high office in the RTL organization. Her response was a wide-eyed, ‘You’re not going to tell them, are you!?’ When assured that I was not, she breathed a sigh of relief, explaining how important that position was to her and how she wouldn’t want this to interfere with it.” (Physician, Texas)

“In 1990, in the Boston area, Operation Rescue and other groups were regularly blockading the clinics, and many of us went every Saturday morning for months to help women and staff get in. As a result, we knew many of the ‘antis’ by face. One morning, a woman who had been a regular ‘sidewalk counselor’ went into the clinic with a young woman who looked like she was 16-17, and obviously her daughter. When the mother came out about an hour later, I had to go up and ask her if her daughter’s situation had caused her to change her mind. ‘I don’t expect you to understand my daughter’s situation!’ she angrily replied. The following Saturday, she was back, pleading with women entering the clinic not to ‘murder their babies.'” (Clinic escort, Massachusetts)

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

18. Those hypocrites need to be outed.

[smirkymonkey]

21. +1000

Just like all the hypocritical anti-choice politicians out there who force their mistresses to have abortions, but fight vigorously to overturn Roe v. Wade.

[MANative]

11. Even dumber than conservative men

And yes, likely brainwashed by the delusion of religion.

Self-loathing dimwits.

[NYCButterfinger]

14. I don't know, people can choose to be progressive or conservative or whatever

Everyone can't think the same or should not think the same

But conservative women are always angry

[byronius]

16. Bonded with the Offender.

That's what my psychotherapist aunts tell me. It's a classic response to long-term abuse -- people who adapt to an atmosphere of toxic authority seek to reproduce it in every facet of their lives. They long for Bad Daddy. It's all they know.

Somewhat akin to the freed slave who does not leave the plantation, but stays and even encourages the continuation of the worst practices while steadily forgiving and praising the Abuser.

Fits.

[bullwinkle428]

19. Do you mean "aggressively for putting women and doctors in jail"?

[aidbo]

20. Not pro-life. They're anti-choice or anti-abortion.

[Caliman73]

22. Any conservative, man or woman, who is not wealthy, is a fool.

Conservatives are the descendants of royalist thought. The idea that "elite" men should lead. When monarchies began to fall in Europe, they did not give up on their ideas, they simply said that the Kings of England, France, Germany, Austria, etc... were "not the right elites" People like Edmund Burke and Joseph de Maistre who pushed for a "natural hierarchy" (Guess who were supposed to be at the top?). When their beloved aristocracy fell from power, they turned to another measure of greatness, the ability to amass wealth. Capitalism was the way forward, which would separate the great leaders from the weak followers. Naturally, not caring about the fact that colonialism and suppression had already given wealthy White people a tremendous advantage, they continued formulating their ideas about why the emerging order of wealthy White Christian men was the "natural order".

Conservative men, usually White men and deluded men of color seek to preserve the old status quo. Women who are conservative, are typically just so because they have bought into the idea of their own inferiority. They have accepted that their place is secondary and their function is to support the men in their lives.

Conservative women are not aggressively pro-life. They are aggressively anti-choice on abortion. That is it.

Conservative women if they support conservative policies, are not for providing children and mothers the resources they need to be safe and healthy. They are not for policies that help children be well educated or have enough food. They do not support policies that allow opportunities for people to have gainful employment. They currently support taking immigrant babies and children from their parents and locking families in cages as a punitive measure. They support the death penalty. They support militarized police and don't really care too much about when police kill unarmed people of color. They support a president and party that are anti-science and anti-mask in the midst of a highly contagious, deadly virus that has already killed at least 200,000 Americans.

How are they "aggressively pro-life"?

[Caliman73]

24. Yes. All Conservatives do is "feel". They do not think.

The Democratic Party's policies do not "baby" anyone. Policies are complex because they have to address centuries of disadvantage and the current exploitation that wealthy people want to continue so that they can gain the most profit.

When you have one party that puts forward policies that help the the most powerful people exploit the rest of us, it is a delicate balance to help people keep a roof over their heads and food in their stomachs and maintain a sense of independence. When people are unemployed and receiving assistance, they are required to look for work, but often, the jobs available pay less than they were getting before. They have to choose whether to stay on the assistance program (if they can) or take the lower paying job and not be able to afford the lifestyle that they had before. So, they have to make significant changes which causes trauma.

Conservatives want it both ways, they create the policies that create unemployment by putting profit above people, then they want to blame individuals who fall on hard times because of the system they created. They talk about personal responsibility except when it comes to corporate bailouts, corporate welfare through subsidy, and shifting the burden of taxation onto the middle and working classes. Reagan cut taxes on the wealthiest people, and deregulated financial institutions, which helped to fuel speculation leading to a recession in the 80's. He had to raise taxes to keep the economy going, but what did he do? He taxed Social Security for the first time since the inception of the program and raised fees on middle class programs. All of this because conservatives think that the richest people are entitled to all of the help they want while the rest of us have to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps, even when we don't have boots.

The narrative needs to be changed from one that puts profit above people one that balances business with the needs of people. Europeans seem to have learned a better balance of that concept than we have.

I am starting to agree with other posters that these responses are not good faith discussion.

[Act_of_Reparation]

26. I don't.

Conservatives are conservatives, regardless of what dangles between their legs.

[SlogginThroughIt]

28. I think they can FOESAD!

[PunkinPi]

29. This sums it up for me...

[IcyPeas]

30. conservative women are pro-life after THEY have had an abortion.

I actually know one of these women.