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kentuck

(111,079 posts)
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:14 AM Sep 2020

Will Republicans be able to get 50 votes for SC nominee before the election?

I rather doubt it. It is just too much of a gamble for Republican Senators running in tight races. They do not need the extra burden of explaining their lies to their voters.

They operate in their own self-interests. Many, in my opinion, have concluded that it is better for them politically if they wait until after the election. They do not want to gamble at this point in their races.

Trump and McConnell may not like it but senators in tight races are not ready to sacrifice their careers for Donald Trump at this time.

They, unlike Collins and Murkowski, will choose to keep it quiet behind the scenes. If Trump has not named his nominee by this weekend, I suspect this is the reason why?

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Will Republicans be able to get 50 votes for SC nominee before the election? (Original Post) kentuck Sep 2020 OP
Yes, and it is going to be vicious and an in-your-face flouting of norms and there's nothing greenjar_01 Sep 2020 #1
100% they will, don;t fool yourself as this changes the direction of the court for 25 years beachbumbob Sep 2020 #2
Before the election or before the inauguration? n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2020 #3
This is the real question RazzleCat Sep 2020 #4
That is more likely. kentuck Sep 2020 #10
That is where I am at Cosmocat Sep 2020 #20
Trump will name his nominee promptly and they will have the votes BeyondGeography Sep 2020 #5
Unfortunately, probably yes. still_one Sep 2020 #6
Probably, and one reason I think they are rushing this is that Mark Kelly is Mike 03 Sep 2020 #7
Yes. They risk their own base turning on them in the election if they don't. ooky Sep 2020 #8
Nov 4 2020 JT45242 Sep 2020 #9
I've read that 22 have confirmed . . . Iliyah Sep 2020 #11
Yes. dalton99a Sep 2020 #12
Yes. dixiechiken1 Sep 2020 #13
I don't think so... n/t Lucinda Sep 2020 #14
Some signficant game changing things can happen in the coming weeks. empedocles Sep 2020 #15
There will be threats. MineralMan Sep 2020 #16
You need to remember that Senators are state elections FBaggins Sep 2020 #17
I think more may in close races than we now think. kentuck Sep 2020 #18
It's actually a pretty long list FBaggins Sep 2020 #19
The fact that most did not immediately come forward ScratchCat Sep 2020 #21
 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
1. Yes, and it is going to be vicious and an in-your-face flouting of norms and there's nothing
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:15 AM
Sep 2020

that can be done about it.

Our system is designed for long-term minority government, like a slaver state.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
2. 100% they will, don;t fool yourself as this changes the direction of the court for 25 years
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:17 AM
Sep 2020

btw, it doesn;t matter if before or after the election as the outcome will be the same

Cosmocat

(14,563 posts)
20. That is where I am at
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 10:46 AM
Sep 2020

The ones who lose, no reason for them not to vote for it.

Their entire lives and income are based on being slavish to the hatefulness of the con party. They make the vote they will remain a member in good status, be able to turn a buck being a Rick Santorum type talking head, being part of their "think tanks" that are awash in $$$, etc.

They don't vote for it they will be pariah's, not able to turn a buck off their status as ex senators, not welcome in their little club ...

BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)
5. Trump will name his nominee promptly and they will have the votes
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:19 AM
Sep 2020

Romney will come over and that will be the extent of the bleeding. Pence breaks the tie and if it needs to happen before Nov. 30 because of AZ it will.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
7. Probably, and one reason I think they are rushing this is that Mark Kelly is
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:22 AM
Sep 2020

favored to win in Arizona and could take office in November, jeopardizing the vote.

ooky

(8,922 posts)
8. Yes. They risk their own base turning on them in the election if they don't.
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:22 AM
Sep 2020

They also have the option of just saying they will vote on a new SCOTUS judge in the lame duck session as well. But McConnell will want to put the vote to the floor as soon as he has the votes.

JT45242

(2,262 posts)
9. Nov 4 2020
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:23 AM
Sep 2020

So as to avoid any voter backlash. They will not consider anything until Nov 4.

Remember the R motto -- Elections (not crimes by us) have consequences

That way they get a RW nut job on the court to turn back gay marriage, interracial marriage, EEOC, ACA, Roe v Wade, Tinker v Des Moines, etc, etc, etc

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
11. I've read that 22 have confirmed . . .
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:24 AM
Sep 2020

2 said not before the election, although concerned Collins will flip anyways . .

dixiechiken1

(2,113 posts)
13. Yes.
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:34 AM
Sep 2020

Whether the actual vote takes place before the election or immediately following, McConnell will already have it locked down. Count on it.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
15. Some signficant game changing things can happen in the coming weeks.
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:38 AM
Sep 2020

[traitortrump never stops, markets, polls, . . . ]

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
16. There will be threats.
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:40 AM
Sep 2020

Heavy ones. Those GOP Senators who are facing close races in their states will receive a great deal of pressure from McConnell and others. I hope that some of them have it in them to put on their stainless steel jockstraps and do the right thing. However, I have little confidence in my hope.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
17. You need to remember that Senators are state elections
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:49 AM
Sep 2020

I know you know that... but I don't think you've considered which republican senators have competitive races and which states those are in.

Other than Collins and maybe McSally, most of them are more likely to "sacrifice their careers" if they don't back Trump's nominee. They all have conservative bases that they can't win without. Collins is in a completely different position, where even her republican voters lean comparatively left.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
19. It's actually a pretty long list
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 10:05 AM
Sep 2020

Seven are rated as tossups at worst... and 3-5 more are at least somewhat competitive depending on who you ask.

ScratchCat

(1,981 posts)
21. The fact that most did not immediately come forward
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 10:55 AM
Sep 2020

And state that precedent calls for the pick to wait until after the next POTUS is sworn in tells you exactly what their intentions are. They could have all nipped it in the bud and ended it right then and there.... and didn't. Its because their constituents want them to confirm a justice.

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