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JPPaverage

(508 posts)
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:49 AM Sep 2020

Ok. Now I'm fighting mad.

A couple of days ago I got a text from my (almost) 12 year old daughter begging to move if trump wins. The death of RBG was being heavily discussed on TikTok or some such forum and some of the older kids correctly pointed out that women, lgbtq people, immigrants and others would lose rights.
When I got home, I tried to explain to her that we were going to bust our butts to stop the senate from confirming any person for Supreme Court justice and to get Biden and down ticket Democrats elected and hopefully return our country to its former glory. I also lost my dad and an aunt earlier this year who both despised trump. My aunt actually said that she wanted to live long enough to see trump beaten. So we have to double down in our efforts to destroy trump and his minions. Not only for RBG, but for my dad, my aunt, and my child. I do not want to sound selfish but its personal now.

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Ok. Now I'm fighting mad. (Original Post) JPPaverage Sep 2020 OP
... handmade34 Sep 2020 #1
The Day of Reckoning is coming dalton99a Sep 2020 #2
Everyone should do everything they can duforsure Sep 2020 #3
The personal IS the political. niyad Sep 2020 #4
Sounds like your 12 year old daughter is way ahead of others her age, a real leader! KS Toronado Sep 2020 #5
What took you so long?! PJMcK Sep 2020 #6
worried than speaknow Sep 2020 #7
Where would you go? StTimofEdenRoc Sep 2020 #8
Better start working on getting a fake passport from Canada now... Moostache Sep 2020 #12
StTimofEdenRoc....Los Cabos, Mexico.... Upthevibe Sep 2020 #13
I think it's personal to a lot of people now peggysue2 Sep 2020 #9
Sorry for you losses JP progressoid Sep 2020 #10
JPPaverage.... Upthevibe Sep 2020 #11
It became personal for me Sogo Sep 2020 #14
I am at the end of my rope already... Moostache Sep 2020 #15
I don't know what to say MustLoveBeagles Sep 2020 #22
Thank you for the thoughts... Moostache Sep 2020 #23
You're welcome MustLoveBeagles Sep 2020 #24
I would move to Canada Martin Eden Sep 2020 #16
I wish leaving was an option for me. I can't due moonscape Sep 2020 #25
I've added barr and mcturtle to my list of shits I want to outlive by a long time BSdetect Sep 2020 #17
Be Careful To Not Overstress Your Kidneys nt smb Sep 2020 #19
You Do Not Sound Selfish erpowers Sep 2020 #18
It's always been personal with me. hamsterjill Sep 2020 #20
Channel the anger into VOTES. BlueWavePsych Sep 2020 #21

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
3. Everyone should do everything they can
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 09:58 AM
Sep 2020

To get the vote out, and help defeat trump and ALL republicans running for office. Trump and republicans are committing treason against us and our country, and have to be exposed stopping this now.

PJMcK

(22,031 posts)
6. What took you so long?!
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 11:23 AM
Sep 2020

Just kidding.

Your daughter sounds like a very sharp young lady. Let's make sure we leave the world a better place for her and all people.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
12. Better start working on getting a fake passport from Canada now...
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 12:39 PM
Sep 2020

Your US Passport won't get you anywhere worth going to these days. I NEVER thought there would be a day that a US Passport held so little value globally.

Upthevibe

(8,038 posts)
13. StTimofEdenRoc....Los Cabos, Mexico....
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 12:49 PM
Sep 2020

For me personally, I'm looking at Los Cabos, Mexico.

I'll try to post some details later.....

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
9. I think it's personal to a lot of people now
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 12:01 PM
Sep 2020

If there was ever a moment for Americans to see what's on the line it's right now, this moment. With RBG's death and Trump and McConnell's mad dash to choose a replacement, those who rely on the ACA can see how their healthcare could be ripped away, where pre-existing conditions would no longer be protected, etc. And then there's the issue of Roe being overturned, the repeal of which the vast majority of Americans do not support.

The very nature of the power grab is appalling but fits within the entire Trumpian approach: we're in power which means we can do anything. Trump actually said that out loud yesterday, that he was certain that the Federal judiciary would make sure vote counting would be shut down on Election night. Who says that? But a wanna-be dictator who is willing to do ANYTHING to win.

The choice is clearer than ever.

progressoid

(49,978 posts)
10. Sorry for you losses JP
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 12:34 PM
Sep 2020

This is really hitting my Democratic octogenarian parents hard too. Talked to my mom last night and she's scared for our future. Of course it doesn't help that their Biden signs have been vandalized and stolen. Trump has brought out the worst in America.



Upthevibe

(8,038 posts)
11. JPPaverage....
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 12:37 PM
Sep 2020

Thank you for sharing your story.

I'm sorry for the loss of your dad and your aunt.

It IS personal.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
14. It became personal for me
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 01:12 PM
Sep 2020

when he started messing with the FICA tax and especially when he said he wants to make that tax abatement permanent.


Moostache

(9,895 posts)
15. I am at the end of my rope already...
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 01:25 PM
Sep 2020

The list of grievous offenses from Donald the Rump and his gang of thieves is innumerable already. The mishandling and ignoring of COVID-19 was already impacting my entire life, but now it is moving into the end of life care and visitation opportunities for my mother.

My mom is my hero. She has survived the same disease that took her mother at the age of 46 in 6 months from diagnosis to death. Mom has fought off this cancer for 19 years. Been through 6 rounds of remission and recurrence - surgeries, chemotherapy, radiation and everything else in the book - and on the experimental medications seeking approvals lists this year. She was back in the fight again this year for a 7th round and had finally started to see some good news on the oncology front only to be waylaid by something else.

She turned 75 years old at the end of August, but she is physically addicted to opioids, having been receiving Vicodin for pain management for the last 8 years. But then things started going all wrong - a compression fracture of the spine, chronic pain that was causing numbness and worsening neuropathy in her arms and legs, a kidney port for cancer treatment that became infected and needed to be replaced, and finally a fall and a compound fracture of the ankle and major damage to her shoulder.

Mom is now heading to a rehab center following successful surgery to repair the ankle, but she is not looking good for this round of the fight and she is on her own for it. The family cannot enter the facility due to COVID restrictions. She is allowed 1 visitor a day for 20 minutes behind a plastic sheet only. NO physical contact - no hugs, no kiss, no holding her hand, NOTHING. My father is 78 and was in generally good health before this latest, but it is sapping the life from him and I can hear it in his voice. My sister was up to visit them this past week (while mom was still in the hospital - where she was allowed 1 visitor a day but no more, so when she went to visit mom, dad was not allowed back until the next day) and she could barely tell me what was going on without breaking down. She does not believe mom has any will left to make it over this series of set-backs on her own.

This is COVID. This is what it fucking does to families. We are not alone - millions of others in this country are going through this now too. Loved ones in critical need of human contact, of support, of their husband or wife, sons or daughters, brothers or sisters - all denied and ALL BECAUSE OF THAT MOTHERFUCKER IN THE OVAL OFFICE AND HIS FUCKING HENCHMEN IN THE SENATE.

I blame them all for this. To be clear - DONALD TRUMP'S EGO IS KILLING MY MOTHER. Let that sink in and try to feel a millionth of the rage and hate that is coursing through my veins as I type this...his lunatic fringe advisors and his fragile man-baby ego and inability to EVER admit he was wrong is killing my mother and sapping the life from my father RIGHT NOW. TODAY...and TOMORROW.. and every goddamn day that piece of shit takes in oxygen.

I will NEVER forget it, I will NEVER forgive them. ANY of them.

McConnell had better NEVER find himself within the reach of my bare hands, because if he were, I cannot guarantee that I would not try to rip his throat out with those hands. Trump too...and the rest of them. This did NOT have to be this way...scientists TOLD THAT FUCKER what to do back in January. He KNEW. And still he lied as part of a fucking plan to keep himself out of jail. He KNEW he was wrong in March and April, and then that racist fuckbunny found out the COVID mortalities were more pronounced among the poor and minorities and he has relentlessly downplayed the seriousness of the pandemic ever since.

I can't take any more.

My mother lays in a hospital bed today, suffering from chronic pain, acute pain, opioid withdrawal, cancer and is actively dying and I cannot go to her, I cannot hold her hand, I cannot rub her forehead or caress her cheek as she did for me through so many things in life. My earliest memory of death was when I was 9 years old and my best friend was killed in a sledding accident where he slid into the street just as a car rounded the corner and ran him over. I could not understand the news. He could not be gone. That was a lie! And mom held me that night, just sat on the bed with me and held me. That physical contact, the embrace of my mother while my world was overturned and nothing made sense - THAT is what I remember and it is killing me that I cannot reciprocate. I cannot even go to her room and sit with her and encourage her or tell her these things in person. It is so hideously unfair, so evil in its cause.

The thing I have always been blessed to know was immutable in this world, that would NEVER shake or tremble or give was the love of my parents - my mom and dad, whom I have been blessed to have for much longer than many others...and yet, THIS is how it is going to end? THIS fucked up quasi-quarantine that prevents even my father from being with his wife of 54 years???

I see these other motherfuckers yelling at protesters to "get out of MY country" and I want to beat them with a bat. I want revenge. I want to release this anger and this building hate that is poisoning my soul and ruining my life right now. I want to scream and break things and howl and cry and so much more. I want my mommy back...I'm 9 years old again and nothing makes sense. This is NOT how it ends goddamn it...this woman fought too long and too hard and beat cancer too many times for THIS to be the way it all ends...

This rage, this irrationality will pass. It is mainly my unleashed temper writing this in a single setting - unchained and running amok...I won't actually harm myself (although I WOULD NOT prevent harm from any GOP figure if I had to lift so much as a finger to prevent them from dying) or anyone else really....but I won't EVER forget. I won't ever FORGIVE this.

This is not a two-party system of government any longer. This is a system that has failed and needs to be torn down to the studs and rebuilt right this time. There are amendments and changes that justice DEMANDS. Once my blood pressure levels down and I can see without the tears and bloodshot eyes and shaking fists, I won't EVER let them forget this period of time. And neither will my children, grand-children or any of my descendants to the 5th or 6th generation.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
23. Thank you for the thoughts...
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:25 AM
Sep 2020

It is just so overwhelming at times that I want to run around screaming and feel I'm drowning at the same time...but it is always appreciated to hear a kind word amidst this tempest.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,591 posts)
24. You're welcome
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 08:00 PM
Sep 2020

Before all this happened I very sad to have lost both of my parents already but now I think it was a blessing in disguise. I don't know what I would've done in this situation. Hopefully we'll vote the orange jackass out and we can begin to get a handle on this. Just remember in the middle of all this craziness to take some timeout and take care of you.

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
16. I would move to Canada
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 01:34 PM
Sep 2020

If was younger and Trump gets another four years.

Being a heterosexual white male I am not a member of any oppressed group. I simply don't want to be associated with a nation that would put this abomination on the Oval Office twice.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
25. I wish leaving was an option for me. I can't due
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 08:11 PM
Sep 2020

to age and health. But I’d also choose Canada with Portugal a close 2nd.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
17. I've added barr and mcturtle to my list of shits I want to outlive by a long time
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 01:44 PM
Sep 2020

The list is getting very long.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
18. You Do Not Sound Selfish
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 02:22 PM
Sep 2020

You do not sound selfish. Most, if not all, politics are likely personal. Many people likely vote because of how things will affect them and their family. Most people seem to vote on an issue because they think it will benefit them, or their family.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
20. It's always been personal with me.
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 10:02 PM
Sep 2020

Trump is compromised and a threat to this democracy. I love this country and I want it back.

Fight like hell.

No quarter!

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