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Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 04:06 PM Sep 2020

CDC says it erroneously posted guidance that said coronavirus spreads through air and travels beyond

CDC says it erroneously posted guidance that said coronavirus spreads through air and travels beyond 6 feet

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Monday it erroneously posted guidance saying the coronavirus spreads through airborne particles that can remain suspended in the air and travel beyond 6 feet.

The updated guidance, posted on the CDC’s website on Friday, also recommended that people use air purifiers to reduce airborne germs indoors to prevent the disease from spreading, according to Reuters.

“A draft version of proposed changes to these recommendations was posted in error to the agency’s official website,” the CDC said Monday. “CDC is currently updating its recommendations regarding airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19). Once this process has been completed, the update language will be posted.”

Earlier in the day, the World Health Organization said it contacted the CDC about the guidance change.

The WHO had not seen any “new evidence” on airborne particles and was checking with the CDC to “better understand” the exact nature of the change, Dr. Mike Ryan, executive director of the WHO’s health emergencies program, said during a news conference at the agency’s Geneva headquarters.

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Studies have suggested the virus can spread through the air. A study published by researchers at the National Institutes of Health earlier this year found that particles of the coronavirus released by talking can remain in the air for eight to 14 minutes.

A study published in the New England Journal of Medicine found that Covid-19 was detectable in aerosols for up to three hours.

In July, the WHO said there is still no “definitive” evidence that indicates the virus is spreading widely by air, although it added that the possibility of airborne transmission in public settings “cannot be ruled out.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/21/cdc-says-it-erroneously-posted-guidance-that-said-coronavirus-spreads-through-air-and-and-travel-beyond-six-feet.html

CDC totally screwed up testing for a month. Even then, it never really got testing at scale. That was done by commercial testing companies.

They have also screwed up with respect to airborne transmission. They attempt to fall in line with WHO, who are mightily resisting airborne transmission for reasons that elude me.

And WHO totally screwed up by not recommending immediate halt to international air travel. This is also political, and restrictions on travel were lobbied against by groups such as Doctors without Borders, since it interfered with their ability to send people to epidemic areas, especially during ebola outbreaks.
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CDC says it erroneously posted guidance that said coronavirus spreads through air and travels beyond (Original Post) Klaralven Sep 2020 OP
If airborne is correct (which we all know it is) isn't it better to leave it up soothsayer Sep 2020 #1
If it's not airborne, and you can't get it from surfaces, PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #2
It's probably mostly droplets if eyeglasses provide some protection Klaralven Sep 2020 #5
Well, that didn't last long. lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Oldwing Sep 2020 #4
Let's see if Fauci or anyone else has the stones to speakout. . CentralMass Sep 2020 #6
It's airborne, the CDC just got stomped by tromp flamingdem Sep 2020 #7
It it is airborne, then things like buses and elevators are a real problem. Klaralven Sep 2020 #8
Many in New York blamed the subway or bus for their infection flamingdem Sep 2020 #9

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,848 posts)
2. If it's not airborne, and you can't get it from surfaces,
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 04:10 PM
Sep 2020

how exactly is it spread?

Actually, it is airborne, and that is how you get it. How long the particles stay in the air, and how far they travel is apparently a bit up in the air, so to speak.

Meanwhile, the constant scrubbing of every surface is genuinely counter productive.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
5. It's probably mostly droplets if eyeglasses provide some protection
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 04:15 PM
Sep 2020
Association of Daily Wear of Eyeglasses With Susceptibility to Coronavirus Disease 2019 Infection

Key Points
Question What is the association between the daily wear of eyeglasses and susceptibility to coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)?

Findings In this cohort of 276 patients hospitalized with COVID-19 in Suizhou, China, the proportion of daily wearers of eyeglasses was lower than that of the local population (5.8% vs 31.5%).

Meaning These findings suggest that daily wearers of eyeglasses may be less likely to be infected with COVID-19.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaophthalmology/fullarticle/2770872

Although it is possible that eyeglass wearers rub their eyes less frequently and that could account for the protection.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
3. Well, that didn't last long.
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 04:11 PM
Sep 2020

All the pundits were wondering this morning, how long before CDC takes down the correct guidance and posts a bunch of lies again. Looks like about 7 hours.

Response to Klaralven (Original post)

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
7. It's airborne, the CDC just got stomped by tromp
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 04:17 PM
Sep 2020

again.

This way there's no legal obligation to improve ventilation in buildings and in transportation areas.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
9. Many in New York blamed the subway or bus for their infection
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 04:20 PM
Sep 2020

Lots of money needs to be spent on HEPA filters in all these places.

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