Signs of an 'October vaccine surprise' alarm scientists

[babylonsister]

Signs of an 'October vaccine surprise' alarm scientists
Such a move could further erode public trust in a vaccine and foist an unsafe shot on Americans.
Sept. 21, 2020, 1:53 PM EDT / Updated Sept. 21, 2020, 3:35 PM EDT
By Liz Szabo and JoNel Aleccia | Kaiser Health News


President Donald Trump, who seems intent on announcing a Covid-19 vaccine before Election Day, could legally authorize a vaccine over the objections of experts, officials at the Food and Drug Administration and even vaccine manufacturers, who have pledged not to release any vaccine unless it’s proved safe and effective.

In podcasts, public forums, social media and medical journals, a growing number of prominent health leaders say they fear that Trump — who has repeatedly signaled his desire for the swift approval of a vaccine and his displeasure with perceived delays at the FDA — will take matters into his own hands, running roughshod over the usual regulatory process.

The worries intensified over the weekend, after Alex Azar, the administration’s secretary of Health and Human Services, asserted his agency’s rule-making authority over the FDA. The fear is that Trump's pressure on the HHS could influence the speed of an authorization. HHS spokesperson Caitlin Oakley said Azar’s decision had no bearing on the vaccine approval process.

An intervention in the process would signal another injection of politics into a sensitive public health decision by the norm-breaking Trump administration. Trump has repeatedly contradicted the advice of senior scientists on Covid-19 while pushing controversial treatments for the disease.


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[SergeStorms]

1. Does the orange asshat have a legal right to do that?

These pharmaceutical companies are private corporations, not government agencies. How can he order a private corporation to release a vaccine whenever he wants them to? Does he have a legal right to do that, and who in their right fucking mind would ever let that stuff be injected into their bodies?

[Blue_true]

5. He would invoke the Defense Production Act.

That essentially allows him to order targeted companies to make something that he deems in the national defense.

That is one reason why I hope that this country never again elect a corrupt, self-dealing person like Trump. He doesn’t care how many people get harmed if he thinks that doing an act will benefit him.

[PSPS]

6. All the drug companies have liability immunity as part of the warp speed nonsense

[SergeStorms]

12. Oh yeah, forgot about that.

Get fat government contracts with no liability if everyone grows another nose out of their foreheads. It's the American way!

[Ilsa]

2. Trumps and Magats first.

I'd like to see the side effects in a 60 million person "sample".

[fleabiscuit]

11. +1

[Blue_true]

3. If Trump does that, he will have only MAGATS behind him.

He loses everyone else. The signs have to be very strong that the vaccine will work for such a move to help him, absent that, he is stepping into a trap that overwhelmingly elects Joe Biden.

[kysrsoze]

4. This will do nothing. 70% of the public doesn't trust him to deliver a working/safe vaccine.

[Blue_true]

7. I agree. Unless data for the vaccine is mega-strong, such a move

damages him, especially when people in the know start leaking information in the last couple weeks of the Fall campaign.

[OAITW r.2.0]

8. What would Putin do?

This.

[Iliyah]

9. Myself, hubby and family and friends will not be

an experiment. We all will not take the vaccine, period, zippo, nada.

[napi21]

10. The speed in authorization of a vaccine makes it i mpossible to know such

things like how long immunity might last per of there are any long term effects from the vaccine. Certainly scary for those who decide to try it. I'm not sure I'd try it. You
If you?

[Walleye]

13. People won't have faith in the vaccine until President Biden approves it.

[Midnight Writer]

14. Don't worry. The vaccine will not be put out too soon. It is only the announcement that counts.

Trump has to announce before "that Special Day", as he himself said.

Once November 3rd has passed, nobody in the Administration is going to give a flying fuck about a vaccine.

It's just like The Wall.

Vaporware.

[Initech]

15. For the 10,000,000th time it's not a vaccine. That will backfire on him spectacularly.

Trump's base is largely anti-vaxxer and believes that the virus is a hoax. And there's no way most of us on this side would trust any medicine that Trump has to sell. So him touting a vaccine at this point will be a lose - lose situation for him.

[Disaffected]

16. Meh, just consider it a

Phase Four trial.

Wait a while and enjoy the outcome...

[mjvpi]

17. Watch. Jared K will have negotiated a contract for the Russian vaccine.......

To be delivered in October. At 3 times the expected price of other vaccines. Paid for out of DHS money. I’m only being 50% sarcastic.

[Duppers]

19. Very probable predictions.

No sarcasm necessary.

[Demobrat]

18. Only Trump humpers would take it

and they all think Covid is a hoax anyway.

So how does that work? Here’s a beautiful vaccine for a virus that doesn’t exist?

Don’t wear a mask, but do let us inject you with a vaccine we rushed to market to influence the election?

The virus is fake, but the vaccine is real?

Are even Trump humpers really that dumb?

[Duppers]

20. Yep.

Sadly.