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Nevilledog

(51,055 posts)
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 01:45 AM Sep 2020

"Lindsey Graham tries, fails to justify breaking his word"




https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/lindsey-graham-tries-fails-justify-breaking-his-word-n1240605


With six months remaining before the 2016 presidential election, Senate Republicans refused to even consider President Obama's Supreme Court nominee, Merrick Garland, even after some GOP senators had recommended him as a consensus choice. "Let the people decide," the party argued, incessantly, as a way to justify its unprecedented blockade.

With six weeks remaining before the 2020 presidential election, Senate Republicans are brazenly abandoning their purported principles, expressing indifference to their disinterest in honor and integrity. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), for example, wrote an op-ed in 2016, defending deeply-held beliefs that he's conveniently thrown in the trash.

Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.) went so far as to argue in 2016 that a Supreme Court confirmation process during an election would imperil "the very health of our republic." Now, the North Carolina Republican not only disagrees with his own principles, he's vowed to vote for Donald Trump's nominee -- before even learning whom the president may choose.

But Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) is in an ignominious league of his own.

When Senate Republicans refused to even hold a hearing on Obama-nominee Judge Merrick Garland, Graham said it was too close to the election even though at the time of late Justice Antonin Scalia’s death in February it was roughly nine months away. “I want you to use my words against me,” Graham said at the time. “If there’s a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say Lindsey Graham said let’s let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination.” He has since reissued that promise several times over. In 2018, he said that following a potential seat vacancy in the final year of Trump’s term the Senate would “wait to the next election.”

And yet, despite these commitments, Graham is breaking his wordfor

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"Lindsey Graham tries, fails to justify breaking his word" (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2020 OP
He is such a fool. Whatever they have on him WILL come out anyway Lucinda Sep 2020 #1
They only obstruct black presidents MoonlitKnight Sep 2020 #2
Are you allowed bullhorns in the Senate building? Because I think these comments by all of them Maraya1969 Sep 2020 #3
This was also the subject of Stephen Colbert's Opening tonight: Rhiannon12866 Sep 2020 #4
Graham is a Republican political leader Chainfire Sep 2020 #5
The problem with the rules is that they assume Senators will be honorable. chriscan64 Sep 2020 #6
Graham "Republicans have the votes to confirm Trump S.C. nominee before election" Baclava Sep 2020 #7
And to me, that sounds like Bettie Sep 2020 #9
Or they know they could lose presidency AND Senate, last chance, get SC pick done before election Baclava Sep 2020 #10
That's actually a best-case scenario Bettie Sep 2020 #11
Romney just came out and said he'd vote yes for a floor vote, its happening Baclava Sep 2020 #12
So, now we need to hope that Bettie Sep 2020 #13
There is nothing "to do" if they have the Senate votes, to do it before the election is the ??? Baclava Sep 2020 #15
Not before the election, after Bettie Sep 2020 #16
Oh i think they intend to ram it through quick, too many variables after, when Trump loses, lol Baclava Sep 2020 #17
I also suspect that they expect Bettie Sep 2020 #18
There will be no vote recount for the court to consider, Trump will lose in a landslide! Baclava Sep 2020 #19
I expect him to file a lawsuit anyway Bettie Sep 2020 #20
They'll do exactly what they think will get them the most votes. Mariana Sep 2020 #8
Our call during this election should include "Bring integrity back to the nation" andym Sep 2020 #14

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
1. He is such a fool. Whatever they have on him WILL come out anyway
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 02:47 AM
Sep 2020

because they hate weaklings they can blackmail.

Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
3. Are you allowed bullhorns in the Senate building? Because I think these comments by all of them
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 03:21 AM
Sep 2020

need to be repeated repeatedly and loudly. If not with a bullhorn in the senate building definitely outside while they are going in. And I think we should protest so loudly that we create a disruption

Rhiannon12866

(205,025 posts)
4. This was also the subject of Stephen Colbert's Opening tonight:
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 04:43 AM
Sep 2020
Lindsey Graham's Words Used Against Him


If there is one thing known about Sen. Lindsey Graham, it is that he's a man of his word.

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
6. The problem with the rules is that they assume Senators will be honorable.
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 09:11 AM
Sep 2020

I was just doing a google search for the actual rules, it just boils down to the Senate makes the rules. Their justifications in 2016 were not necessary, they were just too cowardly to do what they wanted without them. They could have just voted no on nominee after nominee and ran out the clock, they went with brazenly refusing to start the process instead. It was a bold step done in a chicken-shit way.

This year they want that Justice more than avoiding being called hypocrites and liars though they will attempt the mental gymnastics to explain it away.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
7. Graham "Republicans have the votes to confirm Trump S.C. nominee before election"
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 09:25 AM
Sep 2020

Political expediency is all that matters, forget the past, its just words, ayep

Bettie

(16,083 posts)
9. And to me, that sounds like
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 09:28 AM
Sep 2020

the unspoken part is: "and then, the court will ensure that the entire election is given to Republicans, regardless of the result of the vote".

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
10. Or they know they could lose presidency AND Senate, last chance, get SC pick done before election
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 10:00 AM
Sep 2020

Bettie

(16,083 posts)
11. That's actually a best-case scenario
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 10:14 AM
Sep 2020

provided that our side has the will to make some changes to the court.

Frankly, limiting the terms and increasing it would make it work better overall and make it less possible for either side to manipulate it. It might actually become a judicial instead of a political body.

Bettie

(16,083 posts)
13. So, now we need to hope that
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:42 AM
Sep 2020

our side is willing to do what needs to be done.

Otherwise, anyone who isn't white, male, Christian, and really rich, is utterly fucked.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
15. There is nothing "to do" if they have the Senate votes, to do it before the election is the ???
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:54 AM
Sep 2020

Bettie

(16,083 posts)
16. Not before the election, after
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:00 PM
Sep 2020

changing the court, adding seats; perhaps introducing terms instead of lifetime appointments.

I hope that they have the backbone to do it, but I am not holding my breath.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
17. Oh i think they intend to ram it through quick, too many variables after, when Trump loses, lol
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:10 PM
Sep 2020

Bettie

(16,083 posts)
18. I also suspect that they expect
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:13 PM
Sep 2020

the court to give the election to Trump afterward, regardless of how the election went.

Just a "it would damage him not to be president, so we award the presidency to that orange man"....I can see them doing that, already planning it.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
19. There will be no vote recount for the court to consider, Trump will lose in a landslide!
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:15 PM
Sep 2020

Thats why they know they will only have one chance at this

Bettie

(16,083 posts)
20. I expect him to file a lawsuit anyway
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:21 PM
Sep 2020

alleging massive fraud with no evidence to back it up, just bloviating and screaming about his rights.

And I expect that the conservatives on the court will choose to take it up. Roberts will vote against him, but the other "conservatives" will eagerly appoint him.

Remember, nothing works as it should anymore, there are no laws, no norms, nothing that the Republican party won't ignore or destroy.

(Note: Today I am having a very dark day, I might be more optimistic tomorrow or in a few days)

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
8. They'll do exactly what they think will get them the most votes.
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 09:27 AM
Sep 2020

If they think the majority of the voters in their states want them to just rubber-stamp anything Trump proposes, that's exactly what they will do.

andym

(5,443 posts)
14. Our call during this election should include "Bring integrity back to the nation"
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 11:46 AM
Sep 2020

I hope Biden and our Senate candidates use it.

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