Like social security and Medicare?

[kimbutgar]

The Conservative fantasy has been to get rid of these programs. A good comeback to mf45 supporters can be “are you ready to take in your elderly parents and grandparents when they lose social security“? MF45 has already said he wants to cut these programs. A 6-3 conservative Supreme Court will get rid of these programs and then use the money to pay off the national debt.

Another line How do you spell hypocrisy? Republican. They said back in 2016 no Supreme Court nominations in an election year. Now they are not keeping their word and how can you trust them to keep their word and represent you and your families interests in DC? Vote out republicans in 2020 because they just don’t care about you but only their corporate donors and those who will enrich their own interests. How come McConnell is a filthy rich guy after serving the senate so many years?

[Wellstone ruled]

1. Heritage Foundation

and the Koch Brothers as well as Uhilin Family have shifted into Hyper Drive in their efforts to slant the Courts in their favor for several years.

So the threat of equal rights,voting rights,access to affordable Health Care are at the top of their Agenda. Has been since the end of WW2.

Citizens United has to be overturned via Legislation. It is not going to happen via the Court System.

[octoberlib]

5. Sheldon Whitehouse talked about this last night on MSNBC.

He said most people focus on evangelicals and abortion but the overriding reason the GOP chants "judges, judges, judges" during every election is because their big donors demand it. They know a conservative Supreme Court will knock down any regulations passed and be business friendly.

[Wellstone ruled]

7. Yes,caught that interview.

He has to be the new Judiciary Committee Chair in 2021.

Growing up in Wisconsin,had a College Bud who was a avid John Bircher,and he thought the Mega Wealthy should run everything cause they would have the best interests of the Working Class at heart. Seems to me,that is why there was a Revolution against the Czars and the Kings.

[octoberlib]

2. Trump called SS a Ponzi Scheme in one of his books so his intent is to

trash the whole thing. God , he's loathsome.

[qazplm135]

3. Get rid of the debt?

If they end SS they have to give back all the taxes collected for that purpose I would argue. That's a lot of money.

[notinkansas]

6. The SS fund certainly won't be applied to the national debt.

Nor will it be returned to people who paid into it their whole working lives. It will end in Wall Street pockets. A gift.

[Mariana]

9. You would argue that and you would lose.

It's already been done. The Supreme Court decided, back in 1960, that you have no right to receive SS benefits just because you paid SS tax. You can read about it on the Social Security Administration website:

https://www.ssa.gov/history/nestor.html

[qazplm135]

11. Nah

Denying benefits to a single communist in 1960 is not remotely the same as denying every single American.

Plus, the outcry would force Congress to refund the money. It would be the most unifying issue in American history.

[Mariana]

13. Congress may do what Congress may do, for political reasons.

They aren't legally required either to pay benefits or to refund the tax we paid. It wasn't just one communist whose benefits were cut off. He just happened to be the one who sued, and whose case came before the Supreme Court. The precedent applies equally to everyone, and do you really expect the Court to rule otherwise in another such suit, after Trump places another right-wing justice?

In its ruling, the Court rejected this argument and established the principle that entitlement to Social Security benefits is not contractual right.

Edited to add: Chances are they won't ever cut off current recipients. They'll drastically reduce or end benefits for younger people, in the future. Old Republican voters don't care one little bit if younger people get screwed over.

[qazplm135]

15. Yes I do expect the Court to rule otherwise

There's a significant difference between the two situations and they will not feel barred by a narrow precedent from 50 years ago.

[dem4decades]

4. Just remind voters when Republicans lied about the Supreme Court they're

Also lying about protecting healthcare, social security and Medicare.

[notinkansas]

8. Mainstream media is really dropping the ball on this.

45 has already said he will defund these programs by eliminating the payroll tax, and we're hearing crickets from the media. They need to be pounding this home - reporting this as a reality every single day.

[safeinOhio]

10. They get to keep their gov. health care, but

you don't.

[Backseat Driver]

12. As for caretaking, my state has codified "familial responsibility (financial)"

as have other states. I've read this has been rarely enforced, but times change. Like a bad divorce, what happens in families already estranged - Will parents join with possible siblings to bring litigation against a "black sheep" that was told decades ago that no one wanted to see or speak to them ever again? That would serve the GOP well in creating further family discord and generational poverty, no?

As for Senators, no one gets close to occupying a Senate seat in this this century without having a lean, mean fundraising machine and/or a modest fortune. Citizen personhood via SCOTUS ruling sealed that deal for the GOP! Perhaps, socially, he married well? I really don't think we watch Monarchs copulate or check their sheets anymore (so many available deceptions, anyway). Hardly any state recognizes "failure to perform" a legal reason for divorce! I think it now comes under the euphemistic term of "cruelty." Couples don't even need produce a reason with "no-fault" and the LGTBQ, thank Heaven's, can marry who they love, raise children, have kinship and inheritance protections, etc. yet the work and legal issues of discrimination are far from settled and come from the same embedded systemic problem as racism. We have other social dilemma including poverty, mental health, and violence because we also have a genuine problem staying out and jumping into others' bedrooms, but now IOKIYAR? Really? Sure, our permissions and mores were/are at the same time preventative and protective of a host of reasons for committed relationships and decisions within those relationships to exist and, still, women take the hindmost from the GOP's preference of policy and legislation making. Artfully expert parsing the language of words and graphic representations contribute to an overall problem.

Maybe one of those "reasons" is the "love" of money, of power, of control that hides the sexually deviant (and I mean this as the gray areas of acceptable (to whom) behavior between the absolutes(?) of biological natural growth and development or inhibited--over and under-- by known or yet to be determined consequences of physical disease), the narcissism, laziness, selfishness, those who lack self-esteem, self-discipline, self-confidence, and/or the emotional maturity all those chronic recognized or unconscious conditions of mental health? To say the GOP's fervent wish to end the Roe vs Wade decision is hypocrisy at it's best!

[NewJeffCT]

14. He has promised to protect SS & Medicare in all his public statements

too bad the media has not called him out nearly enough on his annual proposals to cut Social Security, Medicare & Medicaid.