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kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:42 PM Sep 2020

Trump wants to lose the election I believe.

He and his family has been taking boat loads of money from the campaign the government and stashing it away for the day he loses. He knows he will be able to slither away with no prosecution or consequence for his crimes. His loyal subjects may take the fall for him and that's fine with him. He's tired of trying to actually work or fool everyone he does work. He's been the president now and can brag about it and continue to grift on that alone. There's nothing left in it for him.

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Trump wants to lose the election I believe. (Original Post) kacekwl Sep 2020 OP
Why campaign? Why debate? nt USALiberal Sep 2020 #1
He loves being in the limelight. nt Phoenix61 Sep 2020 #4
Yes... and doesn't really want the work In It to Win It Sep 2020 #20
There are a lot of important people kacekwl Sep 2020 #18
I hope his efforts to lose are more successful sarisataka Sep 2020 #2
He fails so bad, he can't even succeed at losing! Polybius Sep 2020 #5
Nah tman Sep 2020 #3
Dunno, he's gonna be in a heap of legal trouble soothsayer Sep 2020 #6
If not for that, I'd agree he'd want to lose jimfields33 Sep 2020 #27
I don't know how he slithers away without prosecution wryter2000 Sep 2020 #7
does Russia have an extradition treaty with us? 0rganism Sep 2020 #17
Putin won't take him sdfernando Sep 2020 #26
I don't agree. The stakes are higher than in 2016, when he just wanted to juice up his brand. Aristus Sep 2020 #8
Of it's jail for life or Russia, I'd pick Russia, unequivocally. LuvNewcastle Sep 2020 #14
Putin won't want him once he's useless renate Sep 2020 #19
Russia won't want him. Grasswire2 Sep 2020 #23
Nope. He is doing this because he knows he's going to lose. GoCubsGo Sep 2020 #9
At times it seems like it, but he and other members of his family are allegedly Mike 03 Sep 2020 #10
Nope, because he knows he will face criminal charges once he leaves still_one Sep 2020 #11
Just like GWB faced criminal charges for his war crimes. And just like Reagan faced criminal totodeinhere Sep 2020 #22
There are major differences still_one Sep 2020 #31
Since getting thru impeachment, he breaks all laws visibly and enjoys the ultimate LizBeth Sep 2020 #12
He'll get a Pence pardon and the state kacekwl Sep 2020 #24
This POS wants John Roberts to Wellstone ruled Sep 2020 #13
Roberts knows that Trump is destroying the nation. Eyeball_Kid Sep 2020 #28
I wondered about this myself Sierra89 Sep 2020 #15
No. That would require a degree of strategizing I doubt he's capable of. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2020 #16
No. he wants to stay in office to avoid legal troubles JI7 Sep 2020 #21
Except he lives for the attention. moondust Sep 2020 #25
JMHO he will never see the inside of a jail cell. He has the perfect defense Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #29
Haven't you been paying attention? LisaL Sep 2020 #30

In It to Win It

(8,231 posts)
20. Yes... and doesn't really want the work
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 01:09 PM
Sep 2020

I feel like he ran for the praise and thought it would be 24-hr praise, not realize that the presidency is a thankless job.

sarisataka

(18,570 posts)
2. I hope his efforts to lose are more successful
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:44 PM
Sep 2020

than his effort to lose in 2016. He really failed at that and got stuck with a job he didn't want.

jimfields33

(15,763 posts)
27. If not for that, I'd agree he'd want to lose
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 01:27 PM
Sep 2020

But the states of limitations are up during his second term.

wryter2000

(46,032 posts)
7. I don't know how he slithers away without prosecution
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:48 PM
Sep 2020

New York state has plenty on him, and it's pretty clear they'll use it once he's out of office.

However, I would believe that he thinks he's going to lose and he and his family are taking every last penny while they can.

sdfernando

(4,929 posts)
26. Putin won't take him
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 01:19 PM
Sep 2020

once he is out of office trangeranus is useless to Putin. Or Putin may take him and then tangeranus falls out of a window "accidentally".

Aristus

(66,310 posts)
8. I don't agree. The stakes are higher than in 2016, when he just wanted to juice up his brand.
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:49 PM
Sep 2020

Winning this year means keeping a job he hates, is terrible at, and keeps a spotlight on him at all times that's not always fulsomely complimentary.

But losing this year means going to jail forever, or into exile in Russia. Not sure which one I'd pick. Have to flip a coin on that one...

renate

(13,776 posts)
19. Putin won't want him once he's useless
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 01:09 PM
Sep 2020

He'd still be good for getting his base's knickers in a twist, but once he has no power and Putin has moved on to his next Manchurian candidate, he won't be particularly welcome in Russia. In fact I think Putin will get a lot of jollies out of turning him away.

But he could still go to Saudi Arabia and live well. Maybe that's his plan.

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
23. Russia won't want him.
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 01:12 PM
Sep 2020

Why would they?

His assets are likely to be frozen the minute he's not president and criminal cases drop.

The denouement of Trump by Putin will be nasty, brutish and short. And inevitable.

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
9. Nope. He is doing this because he knows he's going to lose.
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:49 PM
Sep 2020

And, he knows that he's headed to prison when he does. They are most certainly looting the GOP's campaign coffers, that's not in question. He and his cronies are stealing away as much as they can, and hiding it for the time when they make a break for it. It's all being stashed offshore, so that they can access it once they reach whatever non-extradition country to which they wind up escaping.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
10. At times it seems like it, but he and other members of his family are allegedly
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:50 PM
Sep 2020

facing criminal prosecution, or at the very least are the subjects of investigations.

It's true, he's not "running for president" in any sense of the word, but he's doing everything possible to remain in power.

Based on the books Fire and Fury and Disloyal (Michael Cohen's book) I'm convinced his "best case scenario" and the thing he planned for was to lose in 2016 and parlay that loss into a bunch of Trump Organization projects.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
22. Just like GWB faced criminal charges for his war crimes. And just like Reagan faced criminal
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 01:12 PM
Sep 2020

charges for Iran Contra.

Oh but wait, that didn't happen did it. And it won't happen this time either.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
12. Since getting thru impeachment, he breaks all laws visibly and enjoys the ultimate
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:51 PM
Sep 2020

power of no restrictions. He doesn't want to lose it.

kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
24. He'll get a Pence pardon and the state
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 01:15 PM
Sep 2020

charges will be tied up in court for years untill he's dead.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
13. This POS wants John Roberts to
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 12:56 PM
Sep 2020

anoint him in January. That has been the Game Plan since January of 2017. Putin and His Oligarchs have greased the skids on this. Unless Barr is Impeached ASAP,things are going to get friggin ugly.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
28. Roberts knows that Trump is destroying the nation.
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 01:28 PM
Sep 2020

Roberts is interested in keeping the USSC intact.

So he’ll play it straight. He will honor the popular vote, IMO.

Sierra89

(127 posts)
15. I wondered about this myself
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 01:02 PM
Sep 2020

Seeing the skimming/smash and grab going on with all that cash. He seems to be dragging ass most of th time, and may be tired of it all. He recently stated, "If I lose to him, I don't know what I'm going to do. I will never speak to you again," Trump told the attendees at the rally. "You'll never see me again." Donald's used to his "family business" where he simply does whatever he wants and answers to no one. Except for the attention he gets at rallies, he seems bored. Ivanka & Jared have made a ton of money, she has her Chinese patents. The increasing corruption and power grab is turning the electorate against Donald, except for this base/cult. If he really wanted a second term, why not do more for the people?

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,841 posts)
16. No. That would require a degree of strategizing I doubt he's capable of.
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 01:06 PM
Sep 2020

He's probably not even planning some kind of realistic exit from this country if he does lose.

Never forget that he is a narcissist, through and through. Nothing and no one is real except him. Which is why he lies constantly, can't be bothered to learn anything, and says anything at all that comes into his head. While he is saying it, it's true for him. And when he says something completely the opposite in the next sentence, that statement is then true for him.

He loves the perks that come with his current "job". He finds it highly annoying that he does have to do certain job related things, like put up with briefings, but since he doesn't read what they hand him and doesn't listen to what they say, it hardly matters.

moondust

(19,972 posts)
25. Except he lives for the attention.
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 01:16 PM
Sep 2020

Troops saluting him. Secret Service guarding him. Lots of fools clamoring to get near him or even talk to him. All that attention makes a low-grade scoundrel feel like a king. He'll never find that kind of aggrandizement anywhere else. All that attention and glorification is what he had his eye on for years.

Thekaspervote

(32,754 posts)
29. JMHO he will never see the inside of a jail cell. He has the perfect defense
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 01:31 PM
Sep 2020

His attorneys will say he is physically or mentally, or both unable to stand trial.

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