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that he won the party nomination, not Bernie SandersDemocratic presidential nominee Joe Biden aimed to assuage voter concerns about socialism by flatly pointing to his recent primary win during an interview on Monday.
"I beat the socialist," Biden said in a local news interview in Wisconsin. "That's how I got elected. That's how I got the nomination. Do I look like a socialist? Look at my career my whole career. I am not a socialist."
The former vice president was referring to his victory over former 2020 Democratic rival Sen. Bernie Sanders for the party nomination earlier this year. A self-declared "Democratic socialist," Sanders is a staunch believer in the government playing a role to provide services to the public, including education and health care, but his thinking differs from "socialists" who generally believe the government should have total control over the economy.
After Sanders dropped out of the race, he endorsed Biden and worked with him to adopt some progressive policies under his platform, such as ensuring wealthy Americans and large corporations a fair amount in taxes.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/i-beat-the-socialist-biden-reminds-voters-worried-about-socialism-that-he-won-the-party-nomination-not-bernie-sanders/ar-BB19jrTI?li=BB141NW3&ocid=DELLDHP
Yavin4
(35,421 posts)to understand the differences between Communism, Socialism, Capitalism, Social Democracy, and Democratic Socialism. Getting into a debate about the differences in an election year is a big loser. People hear the word, "Socialxxx", and they lose their fucking minds.
You have to dumb down your rhetoric in order to communicate to the US electorate.
Budi
(15,325 posts)actually knows the real meaning of the word.
It's been interestong to hear the many ways one can use to sell socialism.
Its like watching a magic show.
No thanks
Yavin4
(35,421 posts)including the U.S. Social Democracy is simply having a strong public sector to run alongside a capitalist economy. Comparatively, the U.S. has the weakest public sector, but we do have public schools, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, environmental regulations, etc.
One of the lessons from the first half of the 20th century is that a strong public sector makes for more stable governments which decreases the tilt towards war between nations.
Budi
(15,325 posts)the word socialism is immediately interchanged with social democracy, as if to mainstream the meaning.
I'd prefer not to end up like Venezuela in their grand experiment at Socialism, Social Democracy or any other word used to sell us on it.
Socialism is a means of production.
Govt controls how its distributed.
Rw better never be in power of a socialist nation.
Basically what's been referred to as socialism over the past couple of years, is word salad bs.
No thanks. I'll take our Democratic tenats as we've always had them.
Yavin4
(35,421 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy
Budi
(15,325 posts)..interchangeably that one believes there is no diffrence.
It's like pinning down an ever moveing target.
And that movement is intentional.
I fking hate the mixing of the 2.
It gives a false meaning of what can be expected.
What I hate even more is selling socialism as 'no different' than our Democratic Republic.
That is the big fat lie being shoved down the throats of American voters.
And THAT big fat confusing lie is why Joe Biden wiped clean the electoral map in 2019.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Biden's campaign wiped socialism off the board & clearly it wasn't a point to consider with those who voted Biden as their choice for Dem President.
They voted for the Democrat. Not the Socialist.
kwolf68
(7,365 posts)It's scare mongering red baiting bullshit. My fear right now is not a bunch of Lefties promoting a national health care plan, protecting the planet from rabid greed and exploitation, it's the rise of fascist doctrines. And keep it very much in mind, part of the LIFE BLOOD of the rise of fascism is their antagonism to left-wing ideology.
Who were the biggest opponents of Hitler? That's right? Socialists. I am not "advocating" socialism in the real term that it means where government owns large factors of production, but I sure as hell don't think those owners should have carte blanche to destroy our planet, exploit our people and enrich themselves at the expense of the less fortunate.
JI7
(89,240 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)"...promoting a national health care plan, protecting the planet from rabid greed and exploitation, it's the rise of fascist doctrines. And keep it very much in mind, part of the LIFE BLOOD of the rise of fascism is their antagonism to left-wing ideology."
Budi
(15,325 posts)budkin
(6,699 posts)At least for people in the middle.
mvd
(65,161 posts)Many thought Biden was the safer choice against Trump. I disagreed, but my focus now is on beating Trump. We should turn it around on the Repukes by saying they are fine with socialism for the rich and big corporations.
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)a truth.