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TRUMP & CDC LIED AND THOUSANDS DIED .... APRIL 28TH.
I hope Donald RUMP is asked WHY he didl't let the CDC didn't safeguard the meat packing employees.
trump IS A MURDERERERERER.
IcyPeas
(22,506 posts)They are included in the " virtually nobody died".
a vile comment, he's a POS.
iluvtennis
(20,718 posts)hlthe2b
(105,866 posts)The WH--through AG Secretary Sonny Perdue-- forced CDC Director Redfield to retract the field report already delivered to SD Dept. of Health. This was political manipulation plain and clear. NOT the fault of these CDC Epidemic Intelligence Service (EIS) Officers. NOT AT ALL! They did their job.
Put the blame squarely where it belongs--Donald Trump and all his politically=appointed enabling murderous assholes.
LuckyCharms
(18,733 posts)He doesn't get a pass.
hlthe2b
(105,866 posts)I made it very very very clear, where the blame must be directed. Not on the rank and file highly trained career professionals. Shame on those not making a distinction!!!! Yes, it pisses me off. This is DU. DUers should know better. And yes, the OP saying "CDC KILLING MEAT INSPECTORS" is shameful.
TwilightZone
(27,955 posts)Well, he's the director, but other than that....
hlthe2b
(105,866 posts)No better than the RW calling all career professionals at ALL of the Federal Agencies "Deep State."
Some past Directors of CDC truly WERE CDC. EIther they came up through the ranks, or had worked closely and collaboratively with CDC for decades, understood the agency and worked to PROTECT IT and to fulfill its mission. None of the previous applies to Redfield. He was a theocratic thorn in CDC's side because of his outside agitation to exclude and in fact, harm LGBTQ with international AIDs campaigns
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)To me, the bigger question is WHY? Equally with Birx and Fauci. Why are career scientists willing to throw away their oath to protect human life for the despicable likes of trump? You can not tell me that it is logical that ALL three are picking their job over the welfare of 330mm humans?
That makes zero sense. What is trump holding over all these people? More than a job.
Wiki
Robert Ray Redfield Jr. (born July 10, 1951) is an American virologist. He is the current Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the current Administrator of the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, having served in both positions since March 2018.
BigmanPigman
(52,147 posts)enabling a murderer.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)BigmanPigman
(52,147 posts)It isn't normal to have such low self esteem, self respect and morals so suddenly. They weren't always like this...what got to them to bring about this quick change?
I have left two jobs where I didn't approve of what my employers did. It was an easy decision for both and was glad I did it. What's the big deal of leaving your job if the boss or company is terrible?
Sure, I can see how killing hundreds of thousands vs. being fired or resigning from Team tRump is a really tough choice since both options are equally bad.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)is to consistently demean and denigrate every single person who publicly disagrees with him. If you see this happen dozens upon dozens of times, you realize 1) you will be flamed and 2) it won't do any good ? Add in seeing that the news is so prone to flipping from a huge story to the next new balloon that Trump launches, you know if you speak up, or quit, you'll get maybe 8 hrs of coverage at most? Plus trump not holding proper press conferences he doesn't have to really explain. Jeez remember that, when there was a fear in a politician of what people would say?
So you stay, thinking maybe you might be able to affect something?
Have you ever seen Dr Peter Hotez on CNN ? He said months ago that the ONLY way things will get better is if somehow the CDC is pulled out of the political world and made independent. He didn't know how it could be done.
It has all become so overwhelming. Like much too giant a snowball to stop now.
triron
(22,240 posts)hlthe2b
(105,866 posts)LuckyCharms
(18,733 posts)The buck for the CDC stops with him. He represents the CDC to the public, and if he had integrity, he could not be "forced". He could have resigned. Nobody is blaming the rank and file at all. I'm not sure why you think people are blaming the professionals who wrote the report.
My statement accused Redfield, and no one else. But through his actions, and only by his actions, he has destroyed the integrity of the CDC in the eyes of the world.
hlthe2b
(105,866 posts)The OP subject line states "CDC KILLING MEAT INSPECTORS." That is despicable! CDC staff did everything they could to protect them.
Trump administration obstructs CDC efforts to PROTECT MEATWORKERS NOW THAT IS THE TRUTH and should have been the subject line.
**On edit, I see the OP has been edited to remove the offensive statement, for which I am appreciative**
LuckyCharms
(18,733 posts)It addressed your comment about Redfield being "forced". He had a choice to not be forced. He didn't take that choice.
still_one
(95,853 posts)hlthe2b
(105,866 posts)Protected the career staff and the reputation of CDC.
still_one
(95,853 posts)iluvtennis
(20,718 posts)jmbar2
(5,970 posts)Make it NOT pay to play.
LSparkle
(11,667 posts)What I wanted to be in my youth. God bless her for exposing this criminal behavior. Redfield has tried to redeem himself but he gets no pass on this.
milestogo
(17,309 posts)Murder by those in power, in plain sight.
triron
(22,240 posts)I would love to see a Nuremberg-like trial to prosecute Trump and his minions for
their atrocities.
triron
(22,240 posts)Perhaps the wording should be modified.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)occupant
(166 posts)Redfields hands are as bloody as Drumphs. He chose to make those changes knowing what would happen. Resign Redfield, you pu$$y, loser and sucker ! You've been a chump for years and getting worse all the time, lying about a HIV vaccine was the "Gateway" to bigger and better crimes like MURDER ! Keep your dog face off TV. You sold your soul to the Devil, for $209,000 a year...pu$$y !
Woodycall
(291 posts)When your business plan is poisoning children for money, you're a murderer. Think that sounds harsh? Think about the tobacco industry. Or the lead industry. Or the people that make Teflon. Or, about a thousand more...
Kali
(55,663 posts)but please don't use female genitalia to denigrate when coward is perfectly adequate. in reality pussies are neither weak nor cowardly.
occupant
(166 posts)Sorry got used to using that trumpian Lingo like losers and suckers, and calling Generals and Colonels that female gentalia word BUT I changed the spelling for effect
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Upthevibe
(9,000 posts)I agree. I've never seen her so pissed and I, of course, share in her outrage....
hay rick
(8,163 posts)Discuss.
Blue Owl
(54,423 posts)sandensea
(22,838 posts)According to the Times, he warned NATO and Israel of what was coming - but no one else.
BigmanPigman
(52,147 posts)Fuck him!
sandensea
(22,838 posts)BigmanPigman
(52,147 posts)"US intelligence informed the Trump administration, which did not deem it of interest, but the report said the Americans also decided to update two allies with the classified document: NATO and Israel, specifically the IDF. [Israel Defense Forces]".
*I also can't believe that tRump risked mussing his hair-don't by wearing a yamaka. He wouldn't go out in the rain to visit the cemetery in France to commemorate WW2, but Bibi is special to him I guess. Sorry Macron, you don't cut it.
kacekwl
(7,412 posts)file a lawsuit against Redfeild, Sonny Purdue,and trump for wrongful death. Each and every one. Disgusting.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,593 posts)If meat got scarce or if prices hit the roof, he would loose tons of money.
As a bottom line, corporate profits and thirst for power drive all GOP policy.......
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,984 posts)When we were later watching this Rachel segment, I said to him, "I'll be no one is telling Rachel to calm down." He laughed and agreed.
Just to clarify, my husband is one of the least chauvinistic, kindest, most emotionally generous men around, but in addition to everything else, we've got a very upsetting extended family situation happening right now, and I have been doing a ridiculous amount of loudly raging against it all.