RACHEL Now, I have never seen her SO mad.

[trueblue2007]

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TRUMP & CDC LIED AND THOUSANDS DIED .... APRIL 28TH.

I hope Donald RUMP is asked WHY he didl't let the CDC didn't safeguard the meat packing employees.

trump IS A MURDERERERERER.

[IcyPeas]

1. They are pretty much all immigrants

They are included in the " virtually nobody died".

[bdamomma]

2. such

a vile comment, he's a POS.

[iluvtennis]

25. + 1. nt

[hlthe2b]

3. BULLSHIT. The CDC team did their job and issued an appropriate report that would PROTECT workers

The WH--through AG Secretary Sonny Perdue-- forced CDC Director Redfield to retract the field report already delivered to SD Dept. of Health. This was political manipulation plain and clear. NOT the fault of these CDC Epidemic Intelligence Service (EIS) Officers. NOT AT ALL! They did their job.

Put the blame squarely where it belongs--Donald Trump and all his politically=appointed enabling murderous assholes.

[LuckyCharms]

5. And Redfield bent over.

He doesn't get a pass.

[hlthe2b]

8. HE IS A TRUMP POLITICAL APPOINTEE. HE IS NOT CDC. Shame on those who do not make a distinction!

I made it very very very clear, where the blame must be directed. Not on the rank and file highly trained career professionals. Shame on those not making a distinction!!!! Yes, it pisses me off. This is DU. DUers should know better. And yes, the OP saying "CDC KILLING MEAT INSPECTORS" is shameful.

[TwilightZone]

11. " HE IS NOT CDC."

Well, he's the director, but other than that....

[hlthe2b]

13. HE IS A TRUMP POLITICAL APPOINTEE. HE IS NOT CDC. Shame on those who do not make a distinction!

No better than the RW calling all career professionals at ALL of the Federal Agencies "Deep State."

Some past Directors of CDC truly WERE CDC. EIther they came up through the ranks, or had worked closely and collaboratively with CDC for decades, understood the agency and worked to PROTECT IT and to fulfill its mission. None of the previous applies to Redfield. He was a theocratic thorn in CDC's side because of his outside agitation to exclude and in fact, harm LGBTQ with international AIDs campaigns

[Laura PourMeADrink]

24. Redfield is a Georgetown grad virologist

To me, the bigger question is WHY? Equally with Birx and Fauci. Why are career scientists willing to throw away their oath to protect human life for the despicable likes of trump? You can not tell me that it is logical that ALL three are picking their job over the welfare of 330mm humans?

That makes zero sense. What is trump holding over all these people? More than a job.


Wiki
Robert Ray Redfield Jr. (born July 10, 1951) is an American virologist. He is the current Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the current Administrator of the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, having served in both positions since March 2018.

[BigmanPigman]

32. Yes, all three of them are guilty of the same thing...

enabling a murderer.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

38. Why the silence?

[BigmanPigman]

39. I don't understand the psychology behind their behavior.

It isn't normal to have such low self esteem, self respect and morals so suddenly. They weren't always like this...what got to them to bring about this quick change?

I have left two jobs where I didn't approve of what my employers did. It was an easy decision for both and was glad I did it. What's the big deal of leaving your job if the boss or company is terrible?

Sure, I can see how killing hundreds of thousands vs. being fired or resigning from Team tRump is a really tough choice since both options are equally bad.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

40. It's very interesting to me. Part of why Trump's whole MO works

is to consistently demean and denigrate every single person who publicly disagrees with him. If you see this happen dozens upon dozens of times, you realize 1) you will be flamed and 2) it won't do any good ? Add in seeing that the news is so prone to flipping from a huge story to the next new balloon that Trump launches, you know if you speak up, or quit, you'll get maybe 8 hrs of coverage at most? Plus trump not holding proper press conferences he doesn't have to really explain. Jeez remember that, when there was a fear in a politician of what people would say?

So you stay, thinking maybe you might be able to affect something?

Have you ever seen Dr Peter Hotez on CNN ? He said months ago that the ONLY way things will get better is if somehow the CDC is pulled out of the political world and made independent. He didn't know how it could be done.

It has all become so overwhelming. Like much too giant a snowball to stop now.

[triron]

14. Give some space. Poster meant no malice. But thanks for pointing out the distinction.

[hlthe2b]

20. The poster has since edited out the offensive content, for which I am appreciative.

[LuckyCharms]

17. That was my point.

The buck for the CDC stops with him. He represents the CDC to the public, and if he had integrity, he could not be "forced". He could have resigned. Nobody is blaming the rank and file at all. I'm not sure why you think people are blaming the professionals who wrote the report.

My statement accused Redfield, and no one else. But through his actions, and only by his actions, he has destroyed the integrity of the CDC in the eyes of the world.

[hlthe2b]

19. Why?

The OP subject line states "CDC KILLING MEAT INSPECTORS." That is despicable! CDC staff did everything they could to protect them.

Trump administration obstructs CDC efforts to PROTECT MEATWORKERS NOW THAT IS THE TRUTH and should have been the subject line.


**On edit, I see the OP has been edited to remove the offensive statement, for which I am appreciative**

[LuckyCharms]

22. My first comment did not address the OP,

It addressed your comment about Redfield being "forced". He had a choice to not be forced. He didn't take that choice.

[still_one]

7. Red field should resign for caving in

[hlthe2b]

9. He should have resigned RATHER THAN cave in.

Protected the career staff and the reputation of CDC.

[still_one]

15. Exactly. Thank-you

[iluvtennis]

26. Ditto. nt

[jmbar2]

4. Boycott Smithfield

Make it NOT pay to play.

[LSparkle]

6. She's a Journalist (should have done all caps) ...

What I wanted to be in my youth. God bless her for exposing this criminal behavior. Redfield has tried to redeem himself but he gets no pass on this.

[milestogo]

10. Its the kind of murder you can get away with in Amerikka.

Murder by those in power, in plain sight.

[triron]

12. Trump is the chief perpetrator of these murders.

I would love to see a Nuremberg-like trial to prosecute Trump and his minions for
their atrocities.

[triron]

16. Forbidden?

Perhaps the wording should be modified.

[sarcasmo]

18. #MurdererInChief

[occupant]

21. Resign Murderer

Redfields hands are as bloody as Drumphs. He chose to make those changes knowing what would happen. Resign Redfield, you pu$$y, loser and sucker ! You've been a chump for years and getting worse all the time, lying about a HIV vaccine was the "Gateway" to bigger and better crimes like MURDER ! Keep your dog face off TV. You sold your soul to the Devil, for $209,000 a year...pu$$y !

[Woodycall]

30. Republicans are all murderers IMO

When your business plan is poisoning children for money, you're a murderer. Think that sounds harsh? Think about the tobacco industry. Or the lead industry. Or the people that make Teflon. Or, about a thousand more...

[Kali]

41. your anger is justified

but please don't use female genitalia to denigrate when coward is perfectly adequate. in reality pussies are neither weak nor cowardly.

[occupant]

43. Trumpian Lingo

Sorry got used to using that trumpian Lingo like losers and suckers, and calling Generals and Colonels that female gentalia word BUT I changed the spelling for effect

[Upthevibe]

27. trublue2007

I agree. I've never seen her so pissed and I, of course, share in her outrage....

[hay rick]

28. Trump is the argument for the death penalty.

Discuss.

[Blue Owl]

29. K&R

[sandensea]

31. He knew in NOVEMBER!

The Times of Israel blew the whistle on that a couple of months ago - but U.S. media has (of course) been reluctant to pick it up.

According to the Times, he warned NATO and Israel of what was coming - but no one else.

[BigmanPigman]

33. November?!?!?

Fuck him!

[sandensea]

34. Amazing, isn't it. Nothing can be put past this man anymore.

https://politizoom.com/2020/04/17/israeli-paper-reports-trump-knew-about-covid-19-in-november-told-israel-nato-but-not-u-s/

[BigmanPigman]

36. I wonder why NATO and Israel were notified.

"US intelligence informed the Trump administration, “which did not deem it of interest,” but the report said the Americans also decided to update two allies with the classified document: NATO and Israel, specifically the IDF. [Israel Defense Forces]".

*I also can't believe that tRump risked mussing his hair-don't by wearing a yamaka. He wouldn't go out in the rain to visit the cemetery in France to commemorate WW2, but Bibi is special to him I guess. Sorry Macron, you don't cut it.

[kacekwl]

35. The families of those who died at Smithfield and those who got vivid should

file a lawsuit against Redfeild, Sonny Purdue,and trump for wrongful death. Each and every one. Disgusting.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

37. Simple answer: Trump makes money off food service in his resorts and hotels.

If meat got scarce or if prices hit the roof, he would loose tons of money.

As a bottom line, corporate profits and thirst for power drive all GOP policy.......

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

42. Lol. I had been ranting earlier and my husband told me to calm down.

When we were later watching this Rachel segment, I said to him, "I'll be no one is telling Rachel to calm down." He laughed and agreed.

Just to clarify, my husband is one of the least chauvinistic, kindest, most emotionally generous men around, but in addition to everything else, we've got a very upsetting extended family situation happening right now, and I have been doing a ridiculous amount of loudly raging against it all.