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still_one

(92,190 posts)
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 07:50 AM Sep 2020

Ron Johnson releases a report on Hunter Biden that calls Hunter Biden's position with

Ukraine firm "problematic", but fails to show how it changed U.S. policy

"A pair of Senate Republican committee chairmen released a report Wednesday arguing that Hunter Biden’s board position with a Ukrainian energy company was “awkward,” “problematic” and interfered with “efficient execution of policy” for the Obama administration, but offered few specific examples that it impacted Vice President Joe Biden’s actions and failed to demonstrate that it changed the administration’s policy toward Ukraine.

Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee Chairman Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) and Senate Finance Committee Chairman Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) co-authored the report, which comes just weeks before the Nov. 3 election between President Trump and Joe Biden.

The GOP report concludes that “Hunter Biden’s position on Burisma’s board was problematic and did interfere in the efficient execution of policy with respect to Ukraine,” while charging that he and other Biden relatives “cashed in on Joe Biden’s vice presidency.

But at the same time, the report states that “the extent to which Hunter Biden’s role on Burisma’s board affected U.S. policy toward Ukraine is not clear.”

Hunter Biden held a lucrative job on the board of the company Burisma while Joe Biden was vice president. At the time, Joe Biden and the Obama administration was seeking to root out corruption in Ukraine.

In a statement issued before the report’s release, Biden campaign spokesman Andrew Bates accused Johnson of trying “to subsidize a foreign attack against the sovereignty of our elections with taxpayer dollars — an attack founded on a long-disproven, hardcore right-wing conspiracy theory that hinges on Sen. Johnson himself being corrupt and that the senator has now explicitly stated he is attempting to exploit to bail out Donald Trump’s reelection campaign.”

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"The accusation stems in part from public statements made by Andrii Derkach, a Ukrainian lawmaker who previously belonged to a pro-Russian party, claiming to have sent documents to Johnson and Grassley to aid in their probe. Johnson and Grassley have stated repeatedly that they have had no contact with Derkach, who was sanctioned by the Treasury Department earlier this month as an “active Russian agent.”

But Johnson has had contact with another Ukrainian national, former diplomat Andriy Telizhenko, who once worked as a consultant for Blue Star Strategies, a lobbying firm that worked on behalf of Burisma. Telizhenko has advanced the theory that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election to boost Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump. Recently, he also has been publishing unverified transcripts of tapes reflecting conversations between Biden and former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko — tapes that Derkach has been publicizing as well.

Democrats have suggested that Telizhenko may be functioning as a conduit for others to funnel Kremlin-backed conspiracies to congressional investigators. Johnson and Grassley have said that they vetted all of Telizhenko’s information through other sources. Both Ukrainians have a relationship with the president’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, though Telizhenko told The Post earlier this month that he barely knows Derkach and has taken pains to stay away from him.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/senate-gop-report-calls-hunter-bidens-board-position-problematic-but-offers-few-specific-examples-it-changed-obama-administration-policy/2020/09/23/4b66d41e-fd44-11ea-9ceb-061d646d9c67_story.html

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Ron Johnson releases a report on Hunter Biden that calls Hunter Biden's position with (Original Post) still_one Sep 2020 OP
Can't wait until there's such a report on MF45's kids. sinkingfeeling Sep 2020 #1
This is the best they got? Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #2
They are trying to make this into something it isn't. This was thoroughly investigated years ago, still_one Sep 2020 #5
Unfortunately they will have allies in the media Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #7
That will be from the right wing media outlets still_one Sep 2020 #8
Yes and from Maher as well Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #16
This is what I worry about. Mike 03 Sep 2020 #11
Claims 'cashed in' but no specifics. C_U_L8R Sep 2020 #3
You know what I find problematic? The Trump kid's roles in the White House. Luciferous Sep 2020 #4
no kidding still_one Sep 2020 #6
Months ago, the Lincoln Project announced that if the Trump campaign went after Mike 03 Sep 2020 #12
Here are typical comments from the readers to this report, and it isn't favorable to the Johnson still_one Sep 2020 #9
Thank you for posting some of the comments. Mike 03 Sep 2020 #13
Yes this will not help trump Andy823 Sep 2020 #18
I wonder if he had to pay for it in rubles. GoCubsGo Sep 2020 #10
It's a nothing burger Botany Sep 2020 #14
yup still_one Sep 2020 #15
And now Fox News will serve up "Hunter Biden Nothing Burgers" 24/7 Botany Sep 2020 #22
What about Benghazi and Hillary's emails? imanamerican63 Sep 2020 #17
Who hasn't used connections to get a job? TheFarseer Sep 2020 #19
So it begins. Baitball Blogger Sep 2020 #20
I see nothing in this report that will harm Biden...so it doesn't begin...makes the GOP look like Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #21
Everything they spew out, needs to have a response from our camp. Baitball Blogger Sep 2020 #23
I agree, but we are dealing with a large number who follow QAnon, which means it most still_one Sep 2020 #24
I agree. Baitball Blogger Sep 2020 #25
There is nothing to say really why keep it going. Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #27
RoJo the clown falls short Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2020 #26
"We have to find some way to distract everybody from Jarvanka!" struggle4progress Sep 2020 #28

still_one

(92,190 posts)
5. They are trying to make this into something it isn't. This was thoroughly investigated years ago,
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 07:54 AM
Sep 2020

and nothing was found


 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
7. Unfortunately they will have allies in the media
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 07:56 AM
Sep 2020

who will push the false meme for them. I’m sure Bill Maher will jump on it on Friday.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
11. This is what I worry about.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 08:32 AM
Sep 2020

The opposite of the Mueller report, where they took something incendiary and mischaracterized it as benign.

Now Fox News will distort this into something.

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
3. Claims 'cashed in' but no specifics.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 07:52 AM
Sep 2020

In other words, it has no more veracity than an episode of Fox News. Total bullshit. Johnson should be punished.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
12. Months ago, the Lincoln Project announced that if the Trump campaign went after
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 08:33 AM
Sep 2020

Hunter Biden, they would go after the Trump kids hard.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
9. Here are typical comments from the readers to this report, and it isn't favorable to the Johnson
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 08:05 AM
Sep 2020

"30 seconds ago
It is sad that they resort to attacking Joe Biden's son because they can't find anything to use against Joe.
Likethumb_up2

54 seconds ago
Well that landed with a big thud. What's next Johnson? Plan to Bengazi with a second, third and forth look into this? The good people of Wisconsin should be so proud of your efforts.
Likethumb_up2

just now
the salty sweet taste of MAGA-t’s tears is once again on the menu
Likethumb_up

1 minute ago
Joe shouldn’t say this; but if he is elected, I hope he brings Hunter on the taxpayers’ payroll as a special assistant to the President.
Likethumb_up3

48 seconds ago
So adult son of Biden, responsible for his own actions, showed questionable judgement in pursuit of free money. Like that never happens.

Meanwhile, Trump, who is president, refuses to divest his business holdings and steers business toward them. That really did never happen before.

You can't make this stuff up.

Likethumb_up1

39 seconds ago
Another nothing-burger from the GOP trying desperately to manufacture something on Biden to distract from Trump's and his family's corruption.
Likethumb_up1

1 minute ago
(Edited)
Ronnie and Chuckie owe the American public a refund of any salary paid to them during their time spent on this wild goose chase. Imagine if you were an accountant who went off on a search for trolls and fairies in the basement of your office building with help from the winos who lived in the parking garage while on the clock instead of doing the job you were hired to do.
Likethumb_up1

32 seconds ago
Another political hit job by these lying, calculating and opportunistic scumbags. Brought to you courtesy of complicit print media. No different than in 2016.
Likethumb_up

1 minute ago
What's PROBLEMATIC is having a sitting United States Senator using information from a Russian intelligence agent to interfere in an American election.

Actually, that's not problematic; that's bordering treasonous.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
13. Thank you for posting some of the comments.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 08:34 AM
Sep 2020

We are doing so much better than we did in 2016 of owning social media.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
18. Yes this will not help trump
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:25 AM
Sep 2020

voters have made up their mind, and crap like this won't change that. You either hate him, or you are one of his "cult" followers. There is no "silent" voters in the background for trump.

Almost 100 million voters did NOT vote. in 2016. I think most of them didn't think trump had a chance. Those voters know they made a mistake, and they will not make that mistake again.

The diehard trump cult voter DID come out and vote, and most of them will again, but many of them will not because they have seen what he is really like, and they don't like what they see. Some may vote for Biden, and some will just not vote at all. The bottom line is trump has NOT gained any new voters, and he can not win with only his base.

Yes, trump will pull all kinds of BS to win, but the blue wave will be so huge he won't stand a chance. All we have to do it GET OUT AND VOTE! Our future depends on it.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
14. It's a nothing burger
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:33 AM
Sep 2020

nothing burger
something that is or turns out to be insignificant or lacking in substance.
"another nothingburger of a debate"

TheFarseer

(9,322 posts)
19. Who hasn't used connections to get a job?
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:59 AM
Sep 2020

LinkedIn anyone? Trump fam does MUCH worse. We cannot seriously be playing defense on this issue!

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
21. I see nothing in this report that will harm Biden...so it doesn't begin...makes the GOP look like
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:04 AM
Sep 2020

horse's asses.

Baitball Blogger

(46,705 posts)
23. Everything they spew out, needs to have a response from our camp.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:07 AM
Sep 2020

Last edited Wed Sep 23, 2020, 04:48 PM - Edit history (1)

Otherwise, disinformation sticks to the brains of Trump's supporters.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
24. I agree, but we are dealing with a large number who follow QAnon, which means it most
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:10 AM
Sep 2020

likely will register with them



Baitball Blogger

(46,705 posts)
25. I agree.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:22 AM
Sep 2020

We're fighting for those who are just looking for a reason to confirm their friends and family members are cray-cray.

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