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Washington Post Battleground State Poll: Biden -4 FL, -1 AZ (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2020 OP
This is nauseating OrlandoDem2 Sep 2020 #1
So I guess the Supreme Court thing helped him. 🤷🏽‍♀️ I can't think of another helpisontheway Sep 2020 #2
No, most of the poll was done before she died DrToast Sep 2020 #19
Noise. tman Sep 2020 #3
They seem like outliers. What's odd is both polls seem like outliers. Here's all the polls from both DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2020 #8
timing with RBG's passing Amishman Sep 2020 #9
These polls are less than one thousand people MacKasey Sep 2020 #13
Could be the death count? pwb Sep 2020 #4
I think at this point it all going to depend on turnout. LisaL Sep 2020 #5
Outlier / questionable turnout model Eid Ma Clack Shaw Sep 2020 #6
Which state has that in or both? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2020 #7
disappointing NewJeffCT Sep 2020 #10
The AZ poll doesn't mesh with Kelly's numbers Buckeyeblue Sep 2020 #11
This poll has Kelly up by 1. It's an outlier. Eid Ma Clack Shaw Sep 2020 #17
The debates will be huge. safeinOhio Sep 2020 #12
The Florida poll appears to make a pretty large adjustment for "likely" voters. dawg Sep 2020 #14
I think all signs are pointing to this being a high turnout election. LisaL Sep 2020 #15
It depends on how ABC does its LV model... Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #18
Not surprised by the Florida numbers - am surprised by Arizona. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #16
This is really upsetting. DemsIn2020 Sep 2020 #20

helpisontheway

(5,005 posts)
2. So I guess the Supreme Court thing helped him. 🤷🏽‍♀️ I can't think of another
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 08:25 AM
Sep 2020

reason for a big bump. Maybe the CINDY McCain endorsement will help in Arizona. Biden might need to focus on the traditionally Dem states (PA,WI,MI,etc) that Hillary lost. I wish he could find time to swing my Hampton Roads,Va. Trump will be in that area on Friday.

Amishman

(5,554 posts)
9. timing with RBG's passing
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 08:49 AM
Sep 2020

these polls are centered on the news breaking, and the resulting sharp initial emotional response on both sides.

I'm taking any poll that includes the 18th and 19th with a grain of salt.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
5. I think at this point it all going to depend on turnout.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 08:38 AM
Sep 2020

Hopefully unlikely voters also go and get their voting done.

Eid Ma Clack Shaw

(490 posts)
17. This poll has Kelly up by 1. It's an outlier.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:56 AM
Sep 2020

Same pollster has Biden up by 16 in MN, which also ain’t happening. Another poll has Biden up by 3 in FL.

dawg

(10,621 posts)
14. The Florida poll appears to make a pretty large adjustment for "likely" voters.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:01 AM
Sep 2020

If we are just as likely to vote as they are, then we're still leading in that one considering that Joe was ahead in the RV version of that poll.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
15. I think all signs are pointing to this being a high turnout election.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:03 AM
Sep 2020

I don't see why we wouldn't be as likely to vote as they are.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
18. It depends on how ABC does its LV model...
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:58 AM
Sep 2020

Some polling places adjust their LV based on trends + turnout from specific elections. Others, the more reputable, use specific questions and past voting history to determine if their sample is likely to vote or not. Based on this, it's likely some of the responders gave the pollster a reason to believe they're not likely to vote I'm this election.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
16. Not surprised by the Florida numbers - am surprised by Arizona.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:15 AM
Sep 2020

Florida has been moving away from Biden the last few weeks, and the lack of high quality polls there concerned me. On the betting markets, Florida made a strong surge toward Trump last week - the first time in months he was favored to win. With this poll out, Trump likely will take the lead in the average of polls.

Unless Biden figures it out, FL is likely lost. I've been discouraged with his campaign there for a while.

Arizona is really disheartening to see.

This election is not turning into the comfortable victory it felt like a month ago. Plenty of time to turn it around but if Biden loses both Florida and Arizona, victory comes down to PA, which is tightening.

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