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llashram

(6,265 posts)
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:27 AM Sep 2020

kinda fast huh?

operative words here, "in conjunction with Operation Warp Speed". Trump wants this to save his presidency. Wonder if it'll work. And how many people will die from this hastily created vaccine? And how will the numbers be skewed to show it is effective.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/johnson-johnson-s-coronavirus-vaccine-is-fourth-to-begin-phase-3-trials-in-the-united-states/ar-BB19lcj3?ocid=msedgntp

And don't get me wrong. I hope it works for suffering COVID patients. Yet I thought these vaccines took years to perfect after exhaustive trial and error

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kinda fast huh? (Original Post) llashram Sep 2020 OP
They are just starting phase 3 trial. LisaL Sep 2020 #1
ok, but still kinda fast llashram Sep 2020 #3
So who will take these vaccines? Anti-vaxer COVID-hoaxer MAGATS? lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #2
no doubt about what trump and GOP llashram Sep 2020 #4
No doubt. brer cat Sep 2020 #5
true this llashram Sep 2020 #6
A vaccine can't help anyone who is already suffering from COVID-19. Laelth Sep 2020 #7

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
1. They are just starting phase 3 trial.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:32 AM
Sep 2020

This vaccine development is actually behind the other 3 (Moderna, Pfizer, Oxford) that are already in phase 3 trials.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
3. ok, but still kinda fast
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:48 AM
Sep 2020

to be putting humans in harm's way since down the road these vaccines can cause problems even as soon as a year out from inoculation. The usual time for judging safety and efficacy is longer I thought. I see the trump administration putting extreme pressure on these companies to save his p-rezidency.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
2. So who will take these vaccines? Anti-vaxer COVID-hoaxer MAGATS?
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:34 AM
Sep 2020

Or Dems who see them as Trump-tainted?

I don't see a market for them until Biden comes in and cleans things up.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
4. no doubt about what trump and GOP
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:49 AM
Sep 2020

will do, tout this vaccine as heaven-sent even if it kills numerous human beings. I trust nothing associated with the criminal-fascist organization running this country at this time.

brer cat

(24,562 posts)
5. No doubt.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:52 AM
Sep 2020

He is desperate and hopes it will save his campaign even if it costs lives by being hastily delivered. He doesn't give a s$&% about lives.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
7. A vaccine can't help anyone who is already suffering from COVID-19.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:24 AM
Sep 2020

By definition, a vaccine is a preventative measure.



We need TREATMENTS for those who are already infected, and I hear very little about research into treatments (some, but not a lot).

-Laelth

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