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Crunchy Frog

(26,574 posts)
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:27 PM Sep 2020

I don't give a flying fuck about the officers who got shot in Louisville. I'm totally against what

happened to them, or the use of any violence, but only because I think it is counterproductive to the BLM cause and the struggle to preserve democracy in America.

The police in this country are earning the increased risk that they're putting themselves under, and I simply can't feel bad for them.

I expect that this will probably be deleted, and that is completely fair, but I feel like screaming tonight, and I needed to let it out.

I am completely opposed to violence against police. But I hate them.

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I don't give a flying fuck about the officers who got shot in Louisville. I'm totally against what (Original Post) Crunchy Frog Sep 2020 OP
I understand. nocoincidences Sep 2020 #1
American taxpayers spend $107,575,000,000 more on police than on public housing. Defund the police. soothsayer Sep 2020 #2
I prefer to use the words "reallocate funds". Crunchy Frog Sep 2020 #9
Yep, those are better words soothsayer Sep 2020 #10
+1000 smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #32
I have sympathy for firefighters, medical workers and paramedics, etc. roamer65 Sep 2020 #3
same here gopiscrap Sep 2020 #5
me too bdamomma Sep 2020 #7
THIS. roamer65 Sep 2020 #16
Breonna Taylor was an EMT. She saved lives. The police take innocent life. Crunchy Frog Sep 2020 #18
I did not know that. roamer65 Sep 2020 #19
I would like the "Good Cops" to speak up a lot louder and stop acting like they're at war with us uponit7771 Sep 2020 #29
The police in this particular situation weren't all that bad Calculating Sep 2020 #4
Yep- the real culprits were never brought before the grand jury AkFemDem Sep 2020 #6
You mean the ones that all had their body cams... ret5hd Sep 2020 #12
omfg, I thought I read they were all plain close and plain close didn't have to wear cams in that uponit7771 Sep 2020 #30
I can't necessarily agree with that. Crunchy Frog Sep 2020 #14
The ones who let her lie in the hallways bleeding out for 20 minutes Withywindle Sep 2020 #20
This is why we called them Pigs, or The Man lunatica Sep 2020 #8
I was in nursery school back in that day. Crunchy Frog Sep 2020 #11
I mean geez, what do you think would happen if you start scipan Sep 2020 #13
Where's the NRA on this? I thought people need guns, Crunchy Frog Sep 2020 #17
All of THIS... LovingA2andMI Sep 2020 #15
I hate them too I_UndergroundPanther Sep 2020 #21
Non-life-threatening injuries Withywindle Sep 2020 #22
Maybe a Boogaloo boy. Crunchy Frog Sep 2020 #23
Yup, "friendly fire." Withywindle Sep 2020 #24
Actually, I think that killing cops is one of their stated aims. Crunchy Frog Sep 2020 #25
It may be, yes Withywindle Sep 2020 #27
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2020 #31
Your premise would appear to be incorrect MichMan Sep 2020 #33
Yup, I was wrong this time Withywindle Sep 2020 #34
What gets me is it's almost like a template that they pull out ecstatic Sep 2020 #26
+1 It's by the book and formulaic Withywindle Sep 2020 #28

nocoincidences

(2,213 posts)
1. I understand.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:32 PM
Sep 2020

It's uncomfortable to be here, but we have an enemy who demands that we act outside our principals, just to survive.

It's a conundrum that each of us has to decide, and it is not easy.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
2. American taxpayers spend $107,575,000,000 more on police than on public housing. Defund the police.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:33 PM
Sep 2020

?s=21


Robert Reich
@RBReich
American taxpayers spend $107,575,000,000 more on police than on public housing.

Defund the police. Invest in communities.

Crunchy Frog

(26,574 posts)
9. I prefer to use the words "reallocate funds".
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:42 PM
Sep 2020

I want our political leaders to use words that will help us, not hurt us, in elections.

But I agree that is way too much to spend on policing. I guess it's fitting for an emerging police state.

bdamomma

(63,773 posts)
7. me too
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:42 PM
Sep 2020

our frontline workers have been disrespected and they are dying from Covid, to those who call it a hoax are really delusional.

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
4. The police in this particular situation weren't all that bad
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:35 PM
Sep 2020

The bad laws that sent them into the situation are at fault. No knock raids should NEVER be used for drugs. Terrorists/kidnappers/active shooters/etc? Sure. Drugs? No.

AkFemDem

(1,822 posts)
6. Yep- the real culprits were never brought before the grand jury
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:39 PM
Sep 2020

The investigators who sought a no-knock warrant, the judge who signed it, the legislators who passed the law allowing it.

Imo most people haven’t actually read any real in depth details about this case and just sound off based on dramatic headlines and social media misinformation.

ret5hd

(20,477 posts)
12. You mean the ones that all had their body cams...
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:48 PM
Sep 2020

turned off (or erased the footage).

You mean the ones that said they knocked and announced themselves as police... after going to the trouble to get a no-knock warrant?

Yeah, heck, why not have ‘em over for a beer. They’re probably good guys.

On edit:
FTP
ACAB

uponit7771

(90,300 posts)
30. omfg, I thought I read they were all plain close and plain close didn't have to wear cams in that
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:08 AM
Sep 2020

... city.

WTF !?

We ... REALLY ... need to have a come to Jesus talk with democratic mayors about the cops in this country.

Crunchy Frog

(26,574 posts)
14. I can't necessarily agree with that.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:51 PM
Sep 2020

Everything that I've seen suggests that there's a culture of bad policing in Louisville, and that all the police there are complicit, at least to some degree.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
20. The ones who let her lie in the hallways bleeding out for 20 minutes
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:41 PM
Sep 2020

while refusing to perform first aid or call for (ironically) EMTs?


The one who went to the press and whined about how "thugs" are allowed to "get in your face and yell at you" when you "make a mistake during one of the most stressful times in your career" and otherwise demonstrated he had NO REMORSE WHATSOEVER?

https://www.jacksonprogress-argus.com/news/world_nation/louisville-police-officer-defends-his-role-in-breonna-taylor-case-in-mass-email-to-department/article_1e233478-52f4-5074-8334-8a69bf62825c.html

Yeah, they're all that bad. Rotten to the core.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
8. This is why we called them Pigs, or The Man
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:42 PM
Sep 2020

back in the days when Easy Rider was made. I was in college, right in the thick of it. I remember where I was when we found out about Kent State.

scipan

(2,333 posts)
13. I mean geez, what do you think would happen if you start
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:49 PM
Sep 2020

Breaking down the door to someone's apartment? And don't announce yourselves?

Stupid law, stupid police. No justice. I don't think they really care. People will only take so much before they start fighting back.

Crunchy Frog

(26,574 posts)
17. Where's the NRA on this? I thought people need guns,
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:00 PM
Sep 2020

to defend their homes against invaders and to defend themselves against tyranny.

Oh yeah. That's just for white people.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
21. I hate them too
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 12:10 AM
Sep 2020

And if they get hurt bullying people they deserve whatever harm comes to them. I do not care about narcissist,authoritarian,or sociopaths lives.

You turn off your empathy,fuck off and die,asshole.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
22. Non-life-threatening injuries
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 12:12 AM
Sep 2020

And the suspect is apparently in custody and alive (which makes me think he's definitely white, and probably a right-wing militia guy if not a cop himself).

Crunchy Frog

(26,574 posts)
25. Actually, I think that killing cops is one of their stated aims.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 12:20 AM
Sep 2020

You may be confusing them with the Proud boys.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
27. It may be, yes
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 12:32 AM
Sep 2020

Last edited Thu Sep 24, 2020, 04:05 AM - Edit history (1)

Both groups want a race war, i believe. They will do what it takes to fan the flames.

ecstatic

(32,638 posts)
26. What gets me is it's almost like a template that they pull out
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 12:28 AM
Sep 2020

everytime there's a major protest against police brutality / violence.

1. Initiate looting
2. A cop gets shot
3. Lump protesters, looters and cop shooters/killers together.
4. Crack down hard and silence any remaining protesters.

It starts to feel orchestrated at a certain point--like a way to hold on to power. And it works every time. This is bigger than any one police department. There's a wide scale, highly organized and coordinated effort to protect the blue wall of silence at all costs.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
28. +1 It's by the book and formulaic
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 12:33 AM
Sep 2020

I get so pissed off when people who should know better continue to fall for it.

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