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ecstatic

(32,653 posts)
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:13 PM Sep 2020

Omfg! My dad tossed his and my mom's absentee ballots in the trash last night!!!

I helped my dad complete his ballot application last Wednesday and I guess he was thrown off when 2 ballots arrived yesterday because he felt like he had already done that step. I'm irritated with myself for not making it clearer what the next step would be--I thought I told them the ballots would be arriving this week. Maybe I could have been clearer about the process, but I also feel like this happened due to trump's constant crying about rigged elections and fake ballots!

Luckily, my dad says he was able to retrieve both ballots from the trash. I'm going to their house first thing tomorrow to make sure they fill it out right and get it in the mail.


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Omfg! My dad tossed his and my mom's absentee ballots in the trash last night!!! (Original Post) ecstatic Sep 2020 OP
Make sure there isn't any mark on them. Baitball Blogger Sep 2020 #1
I'm thinking about heading there now ecstatic Sep 2020 #7
I hope they weren't spoiled by anything nasty smelling. Ilsa Sep 2020 #2
Glad you were able to retrieve them. Theoretically you should have been able to get a replacement still_one Sep 2020 #3
Bless you! Hurrah! Kudos! Respect! lostnfound Sep 2020 #4
What's your state? Rhiannon12866 Sep 2020 #5
Thanks. Georgia. ecstatic Sep 2020 #9
Ah! Georgia was one of the first states Colbert covered, he's doing the earliest voting states first Rhiannon12866 Sep 2020 #16
Thanks! Definitely will share this. nt ecstatic Sep 2020 #17
Each ballot likely going to need more than one stamp. LisaL Sep 2020 #18
More than 1 forever stamp? ecstatic Sep 2020 #22
Yes. LisaL Sep 2020 #23
Would they still have been able to vote in person if they had been lost? nt Quixote1818 Sep 2020 #6
Provisional. Which IMO means no ecstatic Sep 2020 #8
Good move. foo_fighter999 Sep 2020 #24
Depends on the state Retrograde Sep 2020 #15
Wow - That Was Fast - Getting the Actual Ballot in Less Than a Week- What State Are You In? Indykatie Sep 2020 #10
Just make sure those are legit ballots, and not something Totally Tunsie Sep 2020 #11
It's clear to me, at this point, that anyone who has not voted absentee before ecstatic Sep 2020 #14
Well GA has started sending absentee ballots. LisaL Sep 2020 #19
I think that mail in voting should be discouraged Crunchy Frog Sep 2020 #12
We're In The Middle Of A Pandemic sfstaxprep Sep 2020 #13
My mother will be 81 by election day and I'm in my late fifties. Crunchy Frog Sep 2020 #21
I Plan To Vote In Person As Well sfstaxprep Sep 2020 #28
I would NEVER suggest that someone not vote rather than vote by mail. Crunchy Frog Sep 2020 #29
Yea, great idea during a pandemic. LisaL Sep 2020 #20
Make yourself feel better by reading about Oregon. mjvpi Sep 2020 #25
I was a registered Colorado voter for several years after they adopted Crunchy Frog Sep 2020 #30
Yes, Trump and Covid-19 mjvpi Sep 2020 #31
Thank you for staying on top of the situation. Every vote counts! SunSeeker Sep 2020 #26
OHHHH. This is unlikely to be limited to your folks or other elderly. hlthe2b Sep 2020 #27

Baitball Blogger

(46,684 posts)
1. Make sure there isn't any mark on them.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:15 PM
Sep 2020

Not even a coffee stain. You can ask for a replacement, but it will probably require that you walk down to the election's office and you will have to surrender the ballot to get the replacement.

still_one

(92,061 posts)
3. Glad you were able to retrieve them. Theoretically you should have been able to get a replacement
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:16 PM
Sep 2020

ballot, but glad that is a non-issue now


Rhiannon12866

(204,820 posts)
5. What's your state?
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:17 PM
Sep 2020

Stephen Colbert is releasing videos for every state explaining the voting procedures, since they're all different, confusing as hell. I've been posting them in the state forums as they come out, think he's gotten to about half the states, so far. Maybe it would help if your parents watched that.

Rhiannon12866

(204,820 posts)
16. Ah! Georgia was one of the first states Colbert covered, he's doing the earliest voting states first
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:35 PM
Sep 2020

If this helps - your parents. But your parents are lucky to have you, this has to be the most confusing election of all time. Here in New York, I voted absentee in the primary since the governor sent every voter an application. I was going to do that again in November, but we also have early voting here for the first time.

Georgia, Confused About Voting In The 2020 Election? "Better Know A Ballot" Is Here To Help!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10463485


LisaL

(44,972 posts)
23. Yes.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 12:04 AM
Sep 2020

The ballots and envelopes together are likely heavier than 1 oz. Although this link says 1 stamp should be enough? I would weight it to be sure.

"Q: How much postage do I need?

A: A 55-cent or Forever stamp will get your ballot mailed to the elections office."

https://www.augustachronicle.com/news/20200923/absentee-voting-in-georgia-your-questions-answered

ecstatic

(32,653 posts)
8. Provisional. Which IMO means no
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:23 PM
Sep 2020

It's hard enough to get our votes counted under normal circumstances. Smh

foo_fighter999

(86 posts)
24. Good move.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 12:59 AM
Sep 2020

Provisional ballots are to easy to be thrown out for no real reason at all.

Thanks for everything you're doing to help your parents vote!

Retrograde

(10,130 posts)
15. Depends on the state
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:35 PM
Sep 2020

In California they could ask for a provisional ballot - which gets processed after all the in-person and mail-in ballots. If there is no record that their mail-in ballots were received it might be accepted.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
11. Just make sure those are legit ballots, and not something
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:29 PM
Sep 2020

bogus sent out by the tRump organization.

My concern is because you mentioned filling out their application just last Wednesday. It doesn't sound correct that you would already receive the actual ballots in 6 days. That is an unusually fast turnaround. If you mailed the application back on Wed. or Thurs., it probably wasn't received until at least Saturday when municipal offices are closed. If they didn't look at it until Monday, how would they have had time to verify the signatures and mail a ballot to reach your parents on Tuesday?

ecstatic

(32,653 posts)
14. It's clear to me, at this point, that anyone who has not voted absentee before
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:33 PM
Sep 2020

should not vote absentee this time. Luckily I got some experience in the primary and runoff.

I can no longer confidently recommend mail in voting for newbies. This election is too important!

Edited: Sorry I replied in the wrong place but, yes it's legit. Our voter pages show when our applications are received and the date of mailing. It's funny because I submitted my ballot in early August. I finally got my parents to do theirs last week. Yet they received theirs before me. All of our ballots were sent to us via USPS on 9/18/20.

Crunchy Frog

(26,578 posts)
12. I think that mail in voting should be discouraged
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:29 PM
Sep 2020

except in states where it's the established method of voting, or if it's absolutely necessary, or in cases where the voters know exactly what they're doing.

There's too much risk that Trump will throw out the ballots under any pretext.

Crunchy Frog

(26,578 posts)
21. My mother will be 81 by election day and I'm in my late fifties.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:58 PM
Sep 2020

We've gotten full body hazmat suits and n95 masks and gloves, and we're going to vote early in person, whatever it takes.

We were going to vote by mail, but we just don't trust it.

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
28. I Plan To Vote In Person As Well
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:26 PM
Sep 2020

But some people won't, so I don't think discouraging them from voting at all, is a good idea.

Crunchy Frog

(26,578 posts)
29. I would NEVER suggest that someone not vote rather than vote by mail.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:33 PM
Sep 2020

I just think that people who can vote in person should try to.

mjvpi

(1,387 posts)
25. Make yourself feel better by reading about Oregon.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 02:00 AM
Sep 2020

All mail elections I believe. High voter participation. No problems.

Crunchy Frog

(26,578 posts)
30. I was a registered Colorado voter for several years after they adopted
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:42 PM
Sep 2020

all mail elections. It's a perfectly fine system of voting, except.

When it's suddenly adopted across the country in states where it's not customary and without adequate preparation, in a political atmosphere where everything possible is being done to sabotage it, or discredit it, with the ultimate aim being to not count most mail in ballots.

I can't believe that people are having a such a difficult time understanding the special circumstances that we're currently dealing with.

mjvpi

(1,387 posts)
31. Yes, Trump and Covid-19
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 01:15 AM
Sep 2020

I do recognize the challenges of instituting mail n voting on the fly. The fact that he Senate has failed to act on a House bill that addressed election security and wouldn’t pick up the covid bil with voting as an element is treasonous.

hlthe2b

(102,141 posts)
27. OHHHH. This is unlikely to be limited to your folks or other elderly.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:25 AM
Sep 2020

I hate this.

My parents--even in their later years--were so tuned into what was happening in the news, in life in general, I can not imagine them being bamboozled. But so many are not paying attention.

Sigh...

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