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New Fox News poll (Original Post) octoberlib Sep 2020 OP
good Demovictory9 Sep 2020 #1
K&R Blue Owl Sep 2020 #2
We turnout. We win. Yavin4 Sep 2020 #3
Yep. It's all about turnout. underpants Sep 2020 #5
Which explains Trump's strategy right now gratuitous Sep 2020 #6
That's always been the key. There are far more democrats that republicans for a long time now. PSPS Sep 2020 #13
Did you see the graph posted yesterday? Blue_playwright Sep 2020 #15
That sounds like WI tishaLA Sep 2020 #25
Yeah, if you have to drive through Ilsa Sep 2020 #49
I'd like to see that pie chart, if you could supply a link. Thanks! N/T aggiesal Sep 2020 #64
Same in PA. Gerrymandered the shit out of the state, the minority controls the legislature Tommymac Sep 2020 #70
I don't know about now, but historically... ailsagirl Sep 2020 #45
+ 1 nt iluvtennis Sep 2020 #30
Yes. Looking at the polls you don't know if they are using 2016 or 2018 turnout models grantcart Sep 2020 #58
Trump better throw some mean tweets at his buddies. Midnight Writer Sep 2020 #4
Yeah Biden seems to make to be making a lot of headway in OH jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #7
Anybody reading my list who knows a potential Biden voter who's unregistered, please get them OrlandoDem2 Sep 2020 #8
Whoa Nellie.. If we win OH, it really is gonna be an early night!! Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #9
Link to the detail gristy Sep 2020 #10
Thank you, gristy! octoberlib Sep 2020 #11
Biden's next stop should be Ohio then drive over to PA Rice4VP Sep 2020 #12
Good news tiptonic Sep 2020 #14
Yeah, but what are the results if they "get rid of the ballots"...? regnaD kciN Sep 2020 #16
Whoa! ananda Sep 2020 #17
Excellent BadgerMom Sep 2020 #18
FOLLOW THROUGH! Thunderbeast Sep 2020 #19
I like the way you think!!!! MyOwnPeace Sep 2020 #29
Taking the Senate is critical whopis01 Sep 2020 #42
You ARE correct!!!!! MyOwnPeace Sep 2020 #46
We need to focus on shoring up our democracy itself. coti Sep 2020 #34
every one of those programs could be blocked by SC AlexSFCA Sep 2020 #55
11 won't do it (6-5 Reptilican majority). Must expand to 13 seats. lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #66
Ohio +5 ... coming from Fox, it must be even higher! BlueWavePsych Sep 2020 #20
So far, so good. Brother Mythos Sep 2020 #21
K&R smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #22
Ouch... From State TV no less. djacq Sep 2020 #23
Deep State TV, no less. KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2020 #36
My personal poll, warmfeet Sep 2020 #24
I lived in OH for 25 years, and it's really a purple state. Trump has lost women in suburbs. grobertj Sep 2020 #26
Happy to hear that FakeNoose Sep 2020 #39
Putin better start dropping $ billions into tRump's coffers or else his ROI in America will fail ffr Sep 2020 #27
Now we GOTV JDC Sep 2020 #28
Now we MUST GOTV! calimary Sep 2020 #35
I hope my home state is coming to her senses Norbert Sep 2020 #31
In 2016 videohead5 Sep 2020 #32
They all look overly favorable Awsi Dooger Sep 2020 #33
Not surprised these polls produced obvious annoyance. BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #62
I'd love to hear "at 9:30 eastern time this us a biggie Tribetime Sep 2020 #37
k&r DesertRat Sep 2020 #38
Hasn't Ohio been rocked with republicon corruption this year? texasfiddler Sep 2020 #40
As much as I'd like to believe that- I don't. James48 Sep 2020 #41
I think that's sound advice ailsagirl Sep 2020 #44
"I take with a boulder o salt..." MyOwnPeace Sep 2020 #48
Florida definitely worries me ailsagirl Sep 2020 #43
Damn! Those are some great results! Dr. Jack Sep 2020 #47
I'm hoping for an electoral blowout for Biden/Harris. Ilsa Sep 2020 #50
FOX News Johnny2X2X Sep 2020 #51
They used them today and Trump started DLCWIdem Sep 2020 #74
I would never trust a Fox News poll . . . OldManTarHeel Sep 2020 #52
Yeah! Of course, these results are.... KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2020 #53
Oh & Pa still too close. oldsoftie Sep 2020 #54
PLEASE, Ohio... RazBerryBeret Sep 2020 #56
Some major battleground states are still too close for comfort. LudwigPastorius Sep 2020 #57
Great! Now stay focused, eye on the ball, eye on the ball. Play hard to the whistle. PaulRevere08 Sep 2020 #59
As bad as Fox is, their polls have not been too terrible. It's not Rasmussen. nt Lucky Luciano Sep 2020 #60
OH and PA wryter2000 Sep 2020 #61
Looks good BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #63
I'm just disgusted that up to 45% of a State's voting population STILL backs Trump LiberalLovinLug Sep 2020 #65
I suspect it will be like the 2008 election... Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2020 #67
Whoa. I mean, whoa DarthDem Sep 2020 #68
Fox News actually has a decent polling outfit... Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2020 #69
Yeah DarthDem Sep 2020 #71
In my area (near Dayton), I'm not seeing nearly... Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2020 #72
Thanks DarthDem Sep 2020 #75
⭐️⭐️⭐️K&R ⭐️⭐️⭐️ spanone Sep 2020 #73
 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
3. We turnout. We win.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:15 PM
Sep 2020

That's what every poll is telling us. Show up and vote, and we will win.

underpants

(196,495 posts)
5. Yep. It's all about turnout.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:17 PM
Sep 2020

There can’t be anyone who’s even close to undecided.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. Which explains Trump's strategy right now
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:17 PM
Sep 2020

Anything to depress turnout, because if this is anywhere near a fair fight, Trump loses and loses by a mile.

PSPS

(15,321 posts)
13. That's always been the key. There are far more democrats that republicans for a long time now.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:24 PM
Sep 2020

Blue_playwright

(1,620 posts)
15. Did you see the graph posted yesterday?
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:35 PM
Sep 2020

It showed pie charts for Michigan, I think, and the vote was two-thirds for Dems but the seats in the state legislature were two-thirds Pukes. It’s insane that it has gotten this way.

tishaLA

(14,777 posts)
25. That sounds like WI
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:10 PM
Sep 2020

They've gerrymandered the shit out of that place and wresting control from them is going to be yeoman's work.

Ilsa

(64,371 posts)
49. Yeah, if you have to drive through
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:28 PM
Sep 2020

one or two other legislative districts to get to your polling place, it's pretty much a given. Sucks.

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
70. Same in PA. Gerrymandered the shit out of the state, the minority controls the legislature
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 04:52 PM
Sep 2020

as a result.

That's why the Killer Clown didn't want a real census.

Massive turnout is the key - the ONLY way Dems win. We need at least a 6% win to prevent theft.

Let's Do it.

ailsagirl

(24,287 posts)
45. I don't know about now, but historically...
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:16 PM
Sep 2020

there have always been more Dems but, sadly, not so many vote

While the repukes do

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
58. Yes. Looking at the polls you don't know if they are using 2016 or 2018 turnout models
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 11:57 AM
Sep 2020

jorgevlorgan

(11,098 posts)
7. Yeah Biden seems to make to be making a lot of headway in OH
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:17 PM
Sep 2020

And I don't think Trump has the resources to stay competitive if Biden pulls away there

OrlandoDem2

(3,234 posts)
8. Anybody reading my list who knows a potential Biden voter who's unregistered, please get them
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:18 PM
Sep 2020

to register and then GOTV!

Thekaspervote

(35,820 posts)
9. Whoa Nellie.. If we win OH, it really is gonna be an early night!!
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:19 PM
Sep 2020

Go Joe..go Kamala..we’re here GOTV

Thunderbeast

(3,819 posts)
19. FOLLOW THROUGH!
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:47 PM
Sep 2020

Let's get so many voters out in Florida, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania that the outcome will be virtually CERTAIN by 9:00 Eastern time!

CRUSH AND HUMILIATE!

Take the Senate
Kill the Filibuster

Use a simple majority to pass M4A or a public option and restore pre-existing conditions language. Medicare is a FEDERAL program...not subject to the whims of state legislators.

Pass national legislation guaranteeing abortion rights.

Restore and strengthen the Voting Rights Act.

Rejoin the world in fighting for the climate! Expand incentives for cutting use of fossil fuels.

Let an independent Justice Department unpack the many crimes of the Trump regime. Prosecute!

MyOwnPeace

(17,557 posts)
29. I like the way you think!!!!
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:25 PM
Sep 2020

Quite ambitious - and ALL are worthy goals. It would be wonderful to have a political party that was strong and united enough to support and deliver those goals.

Right now, I'll be thrilled to see BunkerBoy thrown out of OUR White House - taking the Senate would be the icing on the cake.

From there - WE GO FOR IT!!!!!!

whopis01

(3,919 posts)
42. Taking the Senate is critical
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:12 PM
Sep 2020

If we don’t, then McConnell will spend the next 4 years doing everything he can to block any action from President Biden and the House. His goal will be to make Biden seem ineffective and weaken his chances for reelection in 24.

MyOwnPeace

(17,557 posts)
46. You ARE correct!!!!!
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:24 PM
Sep 2020

We MUST take the Senate - they control EVERYTHING! McTurtle gummed up the 8 years of the Obama Administration, especially the Garland nomination, and would continue to do so for the next 4 to 8 were he to remain the Majority Leader in the Senate.
We were SO fortunate (well, we DID work hard to make it happen!) to take the House in 2018 - I have nightmares thinking about what this KKKountry would be like now if we had not.

GET OUT THE VOTE - WE NEED THE SENATE!!!!!

coti

(4,625 posts)
34. We need to focus on shoring up our democracy itself.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:02 PM
Sep 2020

The boat is sinking, we need to plug the holes. Trump pointed them all out to us and there are so, so many.

AlexSFCA

(6,319 posts)
55. every one of those programs could be blocked by SC
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 09:11 PM
Sep 2020

before ever taking an effect. Presidency and congress are important, but SC has the final say on everything, except military matters. Expanding court to 11 would be most important objective for dems.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
24. My personal poll,
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:09 PM
Sep 2020

the orange dump = prison for life.

Joe Biden/Kamala Harris = Leaders of our nation.

I hope we make it so.

grobertj

(240 posts)
26. I lived in OH for 25 years, and it's really a purple state. Trump has lost women in suburbs.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:14 PM
Sep 2020

And there are a LOT of suburbs in OH.

FakeNoose

(41,634 posts)
39. Happy to hear that
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:06 PM
Sep 2020

I believe PA and OH are "brothers from another mother." We have so much in common, and I want to believe that Ohio voters are finally waking up. Just as PA voters are.



ffr

(23,398 posts)
27. Putin better start dropping $ billions into tRump's coffers or else his ROI in America will fail
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:23 PM
Sep 2020

and democracy will endure.

videohead5

(2,950 posts)
32. In 2016
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:51 PM
Sep 2020

We had lower voter turnout and that's why Trump is the president. Trump received less votes in Wisconsin than Romney received in 2012 and still won.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
33. They all look overly favorable
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:55 PM
Sep 2020

Sorry, Nevada is not an 11 point state. Nothing about that state suggests a margin anything like that. I lived there for 24 years. Hillary carried Nevada by 2.4%

It causes me to doubt the entirety. I am not a believer in Ohio either, given the demographics of that state.

BannonsLiver

(20,595 posts)
62. Not surprised these polls produced obvious annoyance.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 01:02 PM
Sep 2020

Seems to be a recurring theme anytime there is ANY positive news for Biden, polling or otherwise.

texasfiddler

(2,199 posts)
40. Hasn't Ohio been rocked with republicon corruption this year?
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:06 PM
Sep 2020

I realize that republican corruption is a redundant term now a days.

James48

(5,215 posts)
41. As much as I'd like to believe that- I don't.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:10 PM
Sep 2020

It’s Fox News, people.

They are intentionally making Trump sound like an underdog now, so that in the last week or two, suddenly the numbers will break all Trump’s way, and he will look like he’s got momentum.

Don’t believe anything from Fox. Work our asses off, make phone calls, sign up your friends, and let’s get out the vote!!!

ailsagirl

(24,287 posts)
44. I think that's sound advice
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:14 PM
Sep 2020

Last edited Fri Sep 25, 2020, 12:40 AM - Edit history (1)

Anything from faux I take with a boulder of salt...

Mostly I just disregard them

ailsagirl

(24,287 posts)
43. Florida definitely worries me
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:13 PM
Sep 2020

I read somewhere the two were one point apart-- hope that's wrong

Dr. Jack

(675 posts)
47. Damn! Those are some great results!
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:26 PM
Sep 2020

I hate that Fox is one of the best pollsters in the country. It means I can't 100% hate Fox like I want to.

Ilsa

(64,371 posts)
50. I'm hoping for an electoral blowout for Biden/Harris.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:30 PM
Sep 2020

I want trumpty-numpty to have to fight to get Texas!

Johnny2X2X

(24,207 posts)
51. FOX News
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:32 PM
Sep 2020

What’s funny about this FOX News Poll is that FOX News won’t use it in their broadcast. Instead they’ll use joke Rasmussen.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,782 posts)
53. Yeah! Of course, these results are....
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 08:43 PM
Sep 2020

pre-hacking, pre-voter intimidation and pre-other malicious right-wing acts of election chicanery.

In addition, the flood of public and social media lies and deceptions is just beginning....

But strong GOTV will make sure we hold those margins......

RazBerryBeret

(3,075 posts)
56. PLEASE, Ohio...
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 09:14 PM
Sep 2020

don't disappoint me again! I live in a pretty red area of Ohio and the recent pop up Trump signs all around me makes me feel sick.

LudwigPastorius

(14,725 posts)
57. Some major battleground states are still too close for comfort.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 09:22 PM
Sep 2020

Of course, I'm happy that Biden is on the plus side in many of these places, but taking into account the margin of polling error, and the inevitable election day Republican fuckery, the numbers are too low for me to feel that we're cruising to an easy win.

PaulRevere08

(459 posts)
59. Great! Now stay focused, eye on the ball, eye on the ball. Play hard to the whistle.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 12:04 PM
Sep 2020

38 DAYS 12 HOURS 56 MINUTES

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
61. OH and PA
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 12:59 PM
Sep 2020

Biden is ahead 5 points with only 5% left of undecideds or "other" for Trump to win over. PA is 7 points ahead with only 5% left.

If those numbers hold, those two states are lost to Trump. I saw similar figures on MI and WI the other day. It's possible all four states are lost to Trump.

If Biden can win outright on election night or the next day, Trump won't be able to throw a bunch of chaos into the mix. He can attempt to win via courts, but he'll be pretty unpersuasive.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,689 posts)
65. I'm just disgusted that up to 45% of a State's voting population STILL backs Trump
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 03:09 PM
Sep 2020

And think he is perfectly fine commander in chief.

Mind boggling.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
67. I suspect it will be like the 2008 election...
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 04:04 PM
Sep 2020

... except Indiana will be red and Arizona will be blue this time.

By the way, Obama winning Indiana in 2008 seems like ancient history now! What the heck happened to that state in the meantime?!

I'm not too surprised by Ohio. It will probably be very close, but I think Biden will win here.

There was a LOT of animosity toward the Clintons around here, and obviously in states like PA, MI, WI and IA too. With so much anger being expressed by my past coworkers, I'm not even sure that Bill Clinton would have won in 2000 if he could have run for a third term. So don't take the results from 2016 as some kind of permanent change in the Midwest!

Edit: And maybe Biden can win GA and TX too!

DarthDem

(5,462 posts)
68. Whoa. I mean, whoa
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 04:12 PM
Sep 2020

First, Fox's polling outfit doesn't seem to have a thumb on the scale like Razzy or Trafalgar to drive public perception.

But even if they did and these polls are a product of that, how does it help drive a pro-Trump narrative to show him utterly non-competitive in Nevada, trailing quite seriously in Ohio, and leading more than comfortably in Pennsylvania? If that's a head fake to trick the Biden campaign, I'm not really seeing how it achieves that goal.

So these may actually be real. The NV and PA results are certainly quite believable, and I don't know if anyone really knows what's going on in OH.

In short, great news.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
69. Fox News actually has a decent polling outfit...
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 04:14 PM
Sep 2020

... despite how their "news" is full of lies and right-wing propaganda.

538.com has Biden slightly favored in Ohio now, and that's based on multiple polls.

DarthDem

(5,462 posts)
71. Yeah
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 05:25 PM
Sep 2020

You're right, and you ought to know based on your handle! I have some connections to Ohio, but haven't been there in about four years. The summer before the (ugh) 2016 election, in fact.

I guess I just lost faith in Ohio a while back, and have probably been lulled by the media not covering it as a battleground at ALL this cycle.

What do you make of Biden's chances to win it?

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
72. In my area (near Dayton), I'm not seeing nearly...
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 05:31 PM
Sep 2020

... as many Trump signs this time. They were all over the place in 2016. Yet Trump still only won this county by about 1% four years ago.

During Trump's recent rally in Dayton (Vandalia), which I watched on a local TV channel, his super-spreader kooks were mostly loud when he criticized Clinton. They weren't very loud whenever he criticized Biden.

So my sense is that Biden will fare much better, and the polling supports it!

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