May I point something out?

[MarianJack]

There are many people who are correctly concerned about Dolt45 and his unwillingness to leave office.

What I would like to say is that a presidential term ends at noon on January 20. The swearing in ceremony is a show for the supporters and the "news" media. At noon and one second The new president will be Joe Biden, who will have the power and authority to instruct the Secret Service to remove Donald Trump's crusty "239" pound ass to the curb. The Secret Service will obey President Biden's orders.

Given what I know of Biden's generosity, maybe he'll spot Trump cab fair to the train station, or for all we know, the police station for him to surrender with his three oldest idiot children.

After this 4 year nightmare with this monumentally horrible excuse for a human being in our White House, I can wait for the Inauguration.

That's my 2 cents and quite possibly overpriced at that. Thank you for reading.

#notmypresident

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[Atticus]

1. Thank you. nt

[MarianJack]

2. My pleasure.

I would love to see the coverage of Dolt45 being removed from our White House by force.

#notmypresident

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[lagomorph777]

41. He can leave in Marine One, handcuffs, straitjacket, or body bag.

His choice. I am happy with any of the options.

[AZ8theist]

45. I vote body bag.

[CTyankee]

63. Oh, bad!

I was about to say something about sizes of body bags, but that would be inappropriate so I won't.

[AZ8theist]

64. You're right. They may have to zip 2 together

[diverdownjt]

88. Better be 3000mil thick too....................

[soldierant]

91. AZ8theist said "his choice," so there's no promotion of violence here.

[diverdownjt]

89. Marianjack........I'm not worried about Jan.20th...Biden has the ball then...

I'm worried "IT" will send his rabid dogs out from Nov.3-Jan20. You know he will try to tear it all down if
he can't have it like the spoiled/silver f-ing spoon/brat that no one ever said NO too. He'll scream and
pout and his cult will go apeshit crazy...into the night...

And then on down to your house and mine..........................I really hope I'm wrong...but..............

[mcar]

3. The continued freak out over this is getting ridiculous

The whole purpose of it is to demoralize Democrats and depress the vote ("why should I vote? He's not going to leave anyway.&quot

His ass will be kicked out of the WH at noon on Jan 20, 2021. Period.

[MarianJack]

8. Wouldn't it be great to see his ass bounce?

#notmypresident

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[mcar]

9. Oh yeah

and then to see all his fake gold-plated crap thrown out on top of him.

[MarianJack]

10. Oh, the thought makes me smile!

#notmypresident

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[lastlib]

105. I'd LOVE to see it bounce--but, man, if it goes "SPLAT"......

call in the radioactive haz-mat team, cuz that sh*t gonna be TOX-ICK!! Air quality will be deadly due to stench of sulfur. I'll be there to help make it happen, but as soon as it happens, I'm OUTA there!

[Dave in VA]

24. This!

It's all a ruse to try to drive down Democrats enthusiasm. He's losing running against VP Biden so he has chosen to run against the election itself. It is all just a street hustler trying to scatter your thinking long enough to pull off their con.

Thanks for pointing this out!

[Thekaspervote]

32. Indeed!

[LoveMyCali]

47. It's actually incentive for democrats

because unless Biden wins he can't have the secret service storm the White House and drag it out by it's fake hair.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

93. If trump was dragged out

By that hair, his hair would break off by the fist full. Those implants would be torn off his skull by dragging 275 lbs with it.

I'm ok with that.

[Sympthsical]

46. And to not discuss Covid

The media and many on our side took the bait beautifully. We got 200,000 deaths, and he changed the discussion. It’s what he does.

He can go easy or he can go hard, but he will be going if he loses. We have a lot of layers of protection here. A lot.

[Statistical]

54. Exactly. Dump has no choice in the matter. On Jan 20 at noon unless he wins the election ...

he is no longer President. Period. Him "staying" in the White House doesn't make him the President anymore than some random tourist on a tour refusing to leave when the tour is over and declaring himself President.

[SharonAnn]

68. The key point is that HE WILL NO LONGER HAVE POWER!

[mcar]

70. Yes!

[malaise]

74. +1,000

ByeDon!

[Trumpocalypse]

101. Tell that to Bill Maher

He wouldn’t shut up about it last night.

[Hoyt]

4. Would love to see Biden "spot trump cab fare." That would almost make the 4 years worth it.

[MarianJack]

7. Especially if it's to the police station.

#notmypresident

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[LuckyLib]

55. I'd like to see an old-fashioned New York paddy wagon, waiting in front of the White House.

[Rhiannon12866]

5. Apparently Amazon is willing to step up:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214131434

[MarianJack]

6. Good for them

Very patriotic.

#notmypresident

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[5X]

11. At the moment Biden is President, dotard should be arrested. n/t

[MarianJack]

12. Sounds like a plan to me.

#notmypresident

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[2naSalit]

13. +10000000000000000!!!

[ooky]

29. He will already have fled to another country.

Cowards don't stick around waiting to be arrested. And he is a coward.

[C Moon]

95. Yeah. I agree. He has a plan to disappear.

[Pacifist Patriot]

14. I don't think the concern is so much that he'll try to squat in the WH and try to continue to ...

exercise his authority beyond inauguration day.

A non-peaceful transfer of power in his case would involve refusal to publicly concede, rhetoric attempting to create doubt about the legitimacy of the election, filing a flood of lawsuits that would generate uncertainty in key close states, and potentially trying to interfere with the Electoral College. He could make the transition period extremely ugly indeed.

Those are legitimate concerns.

[Whiskeytide]

17. I'm not sure why people are not getting this. There is virtually ...

... no chance of some kind of military coup or a violent scene where he is forcibly removed from the White House. None of that will happen.

What will happen is, as you said, a flood of lawsuits challenging the results, and efforts to interfere with the EC. If he is successful in his challenge and/or his tampering with the process (and I don’t know what his chances are, but there is some percentage likelihood), he will be declared the winner and all the “his term will expire” and “he’ll be dragged out” arguments become meaningless.

We have to vote. In overwhelming numbers. It has to be beyond challenge.

[NoRoadUntravelled]

23. "We have to vote. In overwhelming numbers. It has to be beyond challenge." That's it! nt

[Glaisne]

25. My understanding is

if the election is still contested and no winner has been determined yet by inauguration day, then Nancy Pelosi becomes the president until the winner is determined?

[lastlib]

36. It falls on the Speaker of the House.

Assuming Dems retain control, and Nancy is re-elected as Speaker, then it's her.

It's a new Congress on Jan. 3rd.

[wnylib]

97. Not sure, but I think the provision

for the Speaker's succession applies to situations in which both the president and VP die (or incapacitated by illness or disaster). This order of succession became law after the JFK assassination because LBJ had been in the same motorcade.

I think there is a different provision in the law that deals with an undecided election. I believe it provides that the election be turned over to Congress, but I'm not sure if it applies to both houses, or just one - or which one it would be.

But, I'm not certain about this. Any legal eagles here that can check on this?

[lastlib]

99. If a presidential election is undecided by Jan. 20th,

the Speaker becomes acting president until a new president is determined and sworn in. Presidential Succession Act.

[wnylib]

103. Thank you. What does the act say about

how the election gets resolved?

[wnylib]

104. I found this site on what could happen

if the election is not resolved by Jan 20. It focuses on the event of a tie due to litigation or on how the EC votes fall. It explains the Congressional involvement in deciding the outcome and how it works.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/nancy-pelosi

[Whiskeytide]

40. Maybe. We're then in uncharted territory. But I agree ...

... that if it’s unresolved by Jan 20, Tя☭mp will no longer be the president at that moment. Neither would Biden.

That’s why i suspect it will be resolved before that date. And, even if Pelosi became the interim president (whatever that is), she would likely have to turn it over to the winner - whoever that might be - eventually.

And I’m not even sure Nancy would get it. Doesn’t the new Congress have to vote on the speaker? When does her term expire? Can they vote on Speaker before January (assuming we hold the House)? I’m not fully versed on all of that, but it looks to me like a shit show in every respect.

My takeaway is that it’s going to be the worst political crisis this country has ever faced - no matter what. Voting our way out of it in such numbers that there is no question is our best path.

[johnthewoodworker]

44. I believe that in Bush v. Gore the Supreme court ruled all results had to be tabulated by 12/14,

when the electoral college met. I think this is the date when we will know who won the election.

[whopis01]

53. The new Congress takes effect on January 3rd.

There is plenty of time to elect the speaker prior to January 20th.

[Thekaspervote]

31. Did you see that mcturtle said there will be a peaceful transition of power and the winner will be

Inaugurated on 1/20/21 and then passed a resolution in the senate to such.

Not sure why that doesn’t get as much attention. JUST MHO..it makes headlines, keeps people tuning in. Now that the polls are so solidly in Biden’s favor this close to the election, they’ve dropped that topic and moved onto this one

[TicketyBoo]

75. I read that there is no tooth in a "resolution,"

it's just "happy talk."

[Hassin Bin Sober]

78. Did you see where EVERY republican voted for that?

The worst of the worst agreed to it. Does that tell you anything?

It has all the authority and meaning as declaring puppies and babies are cute.

[wnylib]

96. Well McTurtle also said that a SC justice

should not be appointed in an election year. So, do you really take him at his word?

Maybe a better name for him is McChameleon.

[Demsrule86]

15. Trump ET AL know that Democrats vote in reduced numbers if they think their candidate will lose.

This is what they are trying to do. I have done GOTV for years...this is the truth.

[DeeNice]

57. I know I've heard this in a couple of places recently but lost track of where it came from.

Can anyone link to a source for the study? The first time I heard it I thought it was a stretch to make that assertion.

[FakeNoose]

16. The landlords will serve an eviction notice

The White House's electric, gas, water and cable will be stopped. His phones, cable and internet will be cut off. All vehicles including Air Force One and Two will be confiscated. He'll be banned from Twitter, Facebook and Snapchat. No staff employees will be allowed to report for work. The feds will carry him out in cuffs and a straight-jacket on January 20th.

[xxqqqzme]

20. He will finally get the

ratings he craves.

[dreamland]

18. I want to be in the room where it happens

With cameras rolling.

[LiberalArkie]

19. I never even worried about it. Biden can set up office space where the transition team would

be working. The secret service can cut the power and water and communications to the White House and let Trump and friends just bake there.

Block all entrances and exits except for the main.

It would be a very good practice drill the the security agencies to have.

[lagomorph777]

43. Yup - cut off the KFC and starve him out.

He'll crawl out in an hour or two.

[Roc2020]

21. Why is this even a thing?

so many people....Democrats especially give in to fear and the 'sky is falling' scenario. Trump lose, he will give his concession speech and will be quick to leave the WH. The Presidency was a nightmare for him. I don't get all the fear mongering.

[BlueWavePsych]

48. We've learned not to take anything for granted.

Drumpf is a zero on the moral or ethical scale.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214132460

[Pacifist Patriot]

65. Because as a malignant narcissist, his fragile ego does not allow him to entertain...

the possibility of a loss. I honestly think his statements have less to do with any real threat of trying to hang on to his position by force and more to do with his inability to contemplate a legitimate loss. If he loses it will not be because he didn't get more votes, it will be because the election was fraudulent in some way. He'll find scapegoats.

My fear, if you want to call it that, is an avalanche of law suits, rhetoric attempting to undermine the legitimacy of the process and the results, and lame duck actions that cause even more damage than he has already wrought. He'll go, but he won't go quietly or gracefully. His extinction burst is not going to be pretty. Psychopaths like him scorch the earth on their way out the door.

[Roc2020]

66. I concede he may not

go quietly. But he Will go.

[Pacifist Patriot]

81. I think that's the crux of the disconnect.

I really do believe most people fretting over the lack of a "peaceful transfer of power" are anticipating a messy transfer of power. It's not that they are expressing angst over the fear of no transfer of power at all.

So it isn't the fear that Trump won't go. It's the reasonable fear that he won't go quietly and with the dignity previous presidents have shown.

[Squidly]

94. Its not the fear that he wont go

its what his cult members will do to try to keep him in power. im not talking those in the government, im talking about the rank and file cultists and Q followers who have been stockpiling guns and ammunition since March. And all he has been doing is frothing them up, day after day that many of them are prepared to lay down their life for him.

[Pacifist Patriot]

102. Indeed

I would consider that a legitimate concern. It's a prediction based on previous behavior. There is nothing to indicate thus far that he wouldn't continue doing just this.

[ChazInAz]

22. Fumigate our White House.

The whole structure will need to be searched to remove bugs and hidden cameras.
Exorcism will be in order, too.

[lastlib]

39. My fear is that the stench of sulfur will be hard to remove......

[LoveMyCali]

49. How much sage

do you think we're going to need? Anyone know where we can get it in bulk?

[calimary]

26. Sure works for me, MJ.

[Act_of_Reparation]

27. What Trump does if Joe Biden wins shouldn't concern us.

What will happen if Trump disputes the election results with a stacked Supreme Court on his side is somewhat more alarming.

[Thekaspervote]

28. How is going to dispute the election..seriously? Recounts, yes maybe that SOP

[Act_of_Reparation]

30. I'm not a lawyer

I can't predict exactly how it will be done, but you better believe the GOP is looking for questionably legal reasons to compel electors to make their decisions before all mail-in ballots are validated.

[marble falls]

35. You think "legal" factors into their feverish plotting? You are too generous. Crazy or not ...

they mean what they say. They think with their gut.

[Act_of_Reparation]

56. Ergo the qualifier "questionably"

[fwvinson]

76. I see what you did there.

[Thekaspervote]

37. Here's a SCOTUS ruling from this past summer on faithless electors.

Once an elector is chosen, by the party that wins they cannot switch their allegiance. This ruling also deals with who chooses said electors. It’s about half way down in the article

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/07/14/supreme-courts-faithless-electors-decision-validates-case-for-the-national-popular-vote-interstate-compact/

[Act_of_Reparation]

58. That was the issue with Bush v. Gore, was it not?

Electors in Florida cast their vote for Bush, and could not reverse that vote despite the evidence of irregularities.

I'm not an expert on this, but is there any way electors could cast their vote before the mail-in ballots are tallied? If so, then their decision would be irreversible, right?

[TicketyBoo]

79. When you vote for president,

you're really voting for electors who are committed to vote for your choice.

So, if a state (or states) certifies electors prior to mail-in ballots being counted, it would be disallowing all those ballots for the presidential election.

[whopis01]

59. Lawsuits trying to get ballots thrown out is how it will start - but the goal is merely to delay.

There will be claims that certain ballots are invalid and should be thrown out.
However, that will not be the actual goal. The goal is to delay the certification of the ballots. Specifically to delay it to the point where the outcome is not decided prior to the meeting of the electoral college (December 14th for this year).

If a state has not certified its election results by that time, a couple things can happen. Either the state does not appoint electors to the electoral college, or the state legislature can appoint electors.

There are several states that are likely to vote Democratic despite having Republican controlled legislatures. If the appointment of electors is left to the legislature, then it is possible that they could ignore the (uncertified) ballot and appoint Republican electors.

According to the Constitution, "Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors". This would allow this scenario to occur.

The 14th amendment impacts this somewhat as it has a statement that says (paraphrased) if anyone isn't allowed to vote to select electors, then the number of electors will be proportionally reduced by an amount relative to the number of people not allowed to vote. This could be argued to apply in this case, but the net effect would just be removing that State's electors. It it were a blue state, that would still be in Trump's favor.

[marble falls]

33. Can we drag him out by his feet whether he "honors" the election or not? Please ...

may I help?

[packman]

34. Your post reminded me too much of the praetorian guard

Secret Service enforcing the law/rules/regulations of the government. Gawd, have we come to this point where the guards determine who is in control of the empire?

[Mr.Bill]

72. It's not the guards who decide.

It is the person in command of the guards. And at noon on January 20th, that will be Joe Biden.

[packman]

84. Missing the point

but, came close to it "the person in command of the guards" Whom are they loyal too- we've seen all too often Trump's lackeys being more loyal to him and swearing fidelity rather than the oath they took to defend and protect the Constitution

[Mr.Bill]

85. I would hardly describe the command at the Pentagon

or the Secret Service as "Trump's Lackeys". For the most part, they were there before he got there and they will be there when he is gone.

[Thekaspervote]

38. Oh you're being so kind...239lbs

[OhioTim]

52. Ha

Make that 290

[jmbar2]

42. They should offer him the N. Korea style military parade that he always wanted

Then cart his fat ass to the heliport.

[liberalla]

50. Thank you for writing!

I like it!

[SheltieLover]

51. K&R!

[whopis01]

60. Personally I would like to see him attempt to stay.

Because if he does, it would all but guarantee that he is going to end up in prison.

I agree with what you say - if Biden is elected, then he is President on January 20th regardless of what Trump says or does.

I do fear that Trump is going to try everything he can to prevent Biden from being elected. Including attempting to have election results overturned, or sent to the courts and/or state legislatures.

[Arazi]

61. Tbh, can you see Biden having a big inauguration ceremony in the age of Covid?

I doubt he'd do it. I don't even think he'll have inaugural balls

[Blue Owl]

62. You may indeed!

[Marie Marie]

67. Biden should offer Trump a ride out of town in his Corvette.

[treestar]

69. Exactly!

45 is insane. There is nothing he can do.

[Crunchy Frog]

71. Bookmarking.

[PuppyBismark]

73. By that time he will not be president, Pence will be 46

TRump will pardon his family and friends as well as Pence. Then resign and expect a pardon from Pence. The orange ass**lo will sneak out of the country if neither DC not New York ordered his arrest which the secret service would be happy to honor.

[pansypoo53219]

77. WHEN HE LOSES. all of the morons white house stuff is removed. he can't stop that.

let him have a 3 year old tantrum on the front lawn.

[patricia92243]

80. If Trump weighs as little as 239 pounds, I'll eat this computer.

[Pacifist Patriot]

82. I think your digestive tract is safe.

[Joinfortmill]

83. Amen

[Illumination]

86. Don't forget that bullies are losers. So he will lose...

[hamsterjill]

87. You are correct. At the moment Biden becomes President, throw the orange ass out.

The key phrase, however, is “at the moment Biden becomes President”, and it is THAT part that gives me concern.

I don’t know what Trump will or can do to muddy the election results, but I put nothing past him. Now, he’s stacking the Supreme Court to do his bidding should that be needed. So, you will have to forgive me if I worry just a little. Because in the past four years of Trump doing absolutely BULLSHIT things and completely destroying the rule of law, I have yet to see him stopped.

I disagree with the premise that this makes Democrats less likely to vote. It makes people like me even more determined to vote - to vote in such masses that even Putin cannot cast shade on the result.

[leighbythesea2]

90. One thing

The minute-by-minute breathless 24 hour cable news is not going to help. And they cant refrain from talking & speculating during a period of "wait" for results. State by state. They have never been the smartest, & the networks probably could not coordinate themselves to be patient in our best interests.
The early states "projected" results bring out the crazies to harass the western voters. Thats more my concern.

[Aussie105]

92. Indeed. Wait it out!

Best thing to do!

Avoid the media hype, it's going to get wound up to insane levels over the next few months.
Turn off the hate-propaganda channels on your TV, radio, and tune out.
Even disconnect from Internet media, it's of little value these days.
Try not to speculate too much about what the future will bring.

If you have decided on your vote, plan carefully.
Find out when and where you need to vote if you want to do it in person.
Closer to the day, find out the local weather. Dress appropriately, pack a lunch and a drink, if unsteady on your feet, take a folding chair.

If you haven't decided on your vote, keep up your diet of TV/ radio/Internet, but you will just get more confused.
(But you are a lost cause if you haven't decided yet, so no harm done.)

And be safe, look after body and soul in the meantime.
Wear a mask, keep your distance from those who don't.

Good luck, and God bless!

We live in interesting times . . . GOTV, this is going to get REAL, real soon!

[jimlup]

98. Be careful however because Dolt45 will

use his legal challenges to contest the election and prevent it from being certified. If that happens and SCOTUS doesn't come up with a decision Nancy Pelosi becomes PROTUS on January 20th.

Given our current bizarre circumstances, SCOTUS may side with Trump and we should think about the ramifications of that. I'm not sure where that leads but it is nowhere good.

[Trumpocalypse]

100. No way Trump is 239

I’m thinking more like 339 or above.