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Alex4Martinez

(2,299 posts)
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:00 PM Sep 2020

Ron Paul suffers possible stroke or medical issue during live stream

This is sad to see for anyone.

I'm no fan of Ron Paul, I confess I wish this was happening to Trump instead but beyond that I just am sad to see this happen to anyone yet it's in the news and so I'm posting it.


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Ron Paul suffers possible stroke or medical issue during live stream (Original Post) Alex4Martinez Sep 2020 OP
Dang I thought it was Rand Paul .. and hoped he joined the Devil Le Roi de Pot Sep 2020 #1
i thought rand paul as well... samnsara Sep 2020 #13
That's what I had been thinking. A late covid manifestation. Crunchy Frog Sep 2020 #62
Right brain stroke, left side affected. Maru Kitteh Sep 2020 #2
Yes. It looked like the left side was beginning to sag. lunatica Sep 2020 #10
In the video of him in the hospital, his face looks pretty even csziggy Sep 2020 #68
Must have gotten some TPA. Costs around 7K+ per vial. Maru Kitteh Sep 2020 #71
Nah, he was doing an impression of djt BSdetect Sep 2020 #3
Sad to see. LuckyCharms Sep 2020 #4
Look on the bright side Trumpocalypse Sep 2020 #5
Oh come off it. He's a libertarian DBoon Sep 2020 #9
OMG! lunatica Sep 2020 #6
Wow, I am no fan of his in the political arena but I hope he is ok. redstatebluegirl Sep 2020 #7
yup, might not agree with most of what he says, but he is a rare Pub I can respect Amishman Sep 2020 #45
that's hard to watch janterry Sep 2020 #8
I wish him well. I may not like his politics, though as a libertarian, there was sometimes common hlthe2b Sep 2020 #11
Yep. Ron is usually polite liberaltrucker Sep 2020 #39
As a Texan, I Think Ron Paul is about 10 Times more of a Whaco than his Son Rand Stallion Sep 2020 #42
The most articulate he's ever sounded. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #12
Sad. Ask any HCW who treats stroke, this is very hard to watch and the clock has begun to tick now hlthe2b Sep 2020 #16
He's a racist and bigot. The world is worse off with him in it. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #21
You are very ill-informed as Ron Paul retired from Congress in January, 2013. hlthe2b Sep 2020 #24
Ill-informed on what? Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #28
Despite his being retired for nearly 8 years, you stated you wished this would force him to retire. hlthe2b Sep 2020 #30
My apologies. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #32
Apparently you are about to pull the tactic of our opponents and claim black is white, truth is lie hlthe2b Sep 2020 #35
No. You're just being silly. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #36
Thank you for proving my point. hlthe2b Sep 2020 #37
You have no point. Nothing to prove. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #38
Your own posts prove differently. We can go back and forth all day. I realize it is not only our hlthe2b Sep 2020 #43
Nope. I never said anything about him retiring from congress. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #48
We all cringed at the use hlthe2b Sep 2020 #50
You need to take a course in reading comprehension and a course in manners. marie999 Sep 2020 #52
and you need to not attack other posters. hlthe2b Sep 2020 #53
And your posts were a definite attack on Drunken Irishman. marie999 Sep 2020 #56
It was a rebuttal to his claim, plain and simple hlthe2b Sep 2020 #57
It was rebuttal to his claim, marie999 Sep 2020 #58
He's 85 years old. cwydro Sep 2020 #25
Let's hope. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #29
"Let's" means let us. cwydro Sep 2020 #31
Fine. Let me hope this means we never have to hear from his racist ass again. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #33
LOL. nt SouthernCal_Dem Sep 2020 #63
Oh my gosh, that was horrible renate Sep 2020 #14
He looks much better in a later video csziggy Sep 2020 #70
I shouldn't have watched that. onecaliberal Sep 2020 #15
I'm so sorry renate Sep 2020 #18
Yes, this is awful. cwydro Sep 2020 #23
I'm so sorry. crickets Sep 2020 #27
That was awful to see. MuseRider Sep 2020 #17
Omg... Sugarcoated Sep 2020 #19
Fox News says he has been hospitalized for "precautionary" reasons dalton99a Sep 2020 #20
Oh, that's awful to see. crickets Sep 2020 #22
Would he have the empathy for me that I feel for him and his family. LakeArenal Sep 2020 #26
Wow, that was dramatic. I didn't know they happened that fast. mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2020 #34
Jesus, that's awful Docreed2003 Sep 2020 #40
I dislike most of his political beliefs but I hope he recovers okay... WePurrsevere Sep 2020 #41
His doctor son is sure to deny anything wrong and say no treatment is needed UTUSN Sep 2020 #44
Dr. Trump disagrees, prescribes hydroxychloroquine dalton99a Sep 2020 #46
My Late Grandfather had a stroke in front of me when I was a kid and it sounded the same kimbutgar Sep 2020 #47
Did the price of -- sorry, I wasn't watching the markets -- gold just tumble? NCjack Sep 2020 #49
Thank goodness he has Medicare and a hospital stay won't bankrupt him KWR65 Sep 2020 #51
Message from Ron Paul: "I am doing fine. Thank you for your concern." Klaralven Sep 2020 #54
Obligatory post MR. ELECTABLE Sep 2020 #55
If he's lucky it could just be a TIA. That happened to me 15 years ago, but since it was tblue37 Sep 2020 #59
I'm glad you've recovered! Alex4Martinez Sep 2020 #65
Thanks. Me, too. It was scary for awhile there. nt tblue37 Sep 2020 #67
This is sad to watch. I hope it turns out to be nothing serious... SKKY Sep 2020 #60
Not pleasant to see but important RandiFan1290 Sep 2020 #61
That is sad , but I thought it was referring to Rand at first JI7 Sep 2020 #64
sorry for him bdamomma Sep 2020 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author Mz Pip Sep 2020 #69
I honestly feel bad for him MustLoveBeagles Sep 2020 #72

Crunchy Frog

(26,767 posts)
62. That's what I had been thinking. A late covid manifestation.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 04:22 PM
Sep 2020

In that case it would have been just desserts.

Maru Kitteh

(28,430 posts)
2. Right brain stroke, left side affected.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:03 PM
Sep 2020

you can watch the left side of his face fall in the video. This would be excellent educational footage, especially if more speech from before the stroke were included. It's quite dramatic.

csziggy

(34,158 posts)
68. In the video of him in the hospital, his face looks pretty even
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 12:23 AM
Sep 2020

So he must have gotten treatment quickly enough to not have serious damage, though he may still need physical therapy. That video was included in a different thread here on DU - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14135731

Maru Kitteh

(28,430 posts)
71. Must have gotten some TPA. Costs around 7K+ per vial.
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 12:35 AM
Sep 2020

Probably developed under some socialist medical research grant too. Ron should have sucked it up and endured his fate rather than give in to socialism.

DBoon

(22,592 posts)
9. Oh come off it. He's a libertarian
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:05 PM
Sep 2020

He's into the virtue of selfishness and thinks altruism is a character flaw.

redstatebluegirl

(12,276 posts)
7. Wow, I am no fan of his in the political arena but I hope he is ok.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:05 PM
Sep 2020

This was difficult to watch. We just lost a friend a few days ago to a stroke than had no signs, she started speaking in a weird way and her head went back and she was gone. Wow....prayers for this man.

Amishman

(5,608 posts)
45. yup, might not agree with most of what he says, but he is a rare Pub I can respect
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:40 PM
Sep 2020

He has always stood by his convictions even when his ideas are not popular (or in my opinion, not good ideas).

I can respect that, especially compared today's republican party of corrupt lying shitstains.

hlthe2b

(103,412 posts)
11. I wish him well. I may not like his politics, though as a libertarian, there was sometimes common
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:08 PM
Sep 2020

ground between his and Democratic policy goals. There were surely worse RW Congressmen duing his tenure.

Now, his son.... well, I'll leave it there.

Stallion

(6,481 posts)
42. As a Texan, I Think Ron Paul is about 10 Times more of a Whaco than his Son Rand
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:32 PM
Sep 2020

he's a lunatic nut-case that Texas has had to endure for decades

hlthe2b

(103,412 posts)
16. Sad. Ask any HCW who treats stroke, this is very hard to watch and the clock has begun to tick now
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:11 PM
Sep 2020

on his recovery/prognosis. At least he will get prompt intervention.

I'm not a fan, but I am not incapable of hoping he recovers.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
21. He's a racist and bigot. The world is worse off with him in it.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:16 PM
Sep 2020

I feel bad for his family. It's hard dealing with a stroke victim. My grandfather had a massive stroke that left him paralyzed. He survived but it diminished his quality of life and ultimately led to his death seven or so years later.

I do not have much sympathy for Ron Paul and won't miss his bigoted bullshit. I don't wish death on him at all, and I pray he recovers, but I do hope this forces his retirement and we never have to see or hear from him again.

hlthe2b

(103,412 posts)
24. You are very ill-informed as Ron Paul retired from Congress in January, 2013.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:18 PM
Sep 2020

Your hatred toward him is self-defeating. He's gone from any influence in Congress and has been for nearly eight years.

I'd suggest you focus on those currently doing damage and let this old man ponder his own misdeeds and failures.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
28. Ill-informed on what?
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:21 PM
Sep 2020

Are you saying the man in the video was not Ron Paul? Who was it? And if it is Ron Paul still speaking about the free market, he clearly is out there pushing his bullshit and therefore, even if retired from congress, still hasn't retired from spreading his bullshit hate.

hlthe2b

(103,412 posts)
30. Despite his being retired for nearly 8 years, you stated you wished this would force him to retire.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:23 PM
Sep 2020

So, yeah, that is ill-informed. And yes one who is retired can still give a speech now and then should they be invited to do so--whether at the local community forum or a recorded event.

hlthe2b

(103,412 posts)
35. Apparently you are about to pull the tactic of our opponents and claim black is white, truth is lie
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:27 PM
Sep 2020

Ron Paul
Paul's congressional career ended on January 3, 2013 with the swearing in of the 113th Congress.
Founded: Foundation for Rational Economics a...
Spouse: Carol Paul
Born: August 20, 1935, Pittsburgh

Ron Paul - Wikipedia
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
36. No. You're just being silly.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:30 PM
Sep 2020

I never claimed I wanted him to retire from congress. You're the one who decided that was what I was talking about. Clearly he has not retired from public life as evident by the fact he was giving a political speech when he started babbling (more than normal). I only said I hope this retires him for good so I don't have to hear or see anything more about him. I never said I hoped he would retire from congress. You're just being purposely disingenuous there.

But yes, it's me that's ill-informed lmao

Have a nice day.

hlthe2b

(103,412 posts)
43. Your own posts prove differently. We can go back and forth all day. I realize it is not only our
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:35 PM
Sep 2020

opponents who will not apologize for a mistake they've made and just move on-- or try to call the moon the sun and argue when proven otherwise, but it is no less disconcerting and credibility-destroying.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
48. Nope. I never said anything about him retiring from congress.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:45 PM
Sep 2020

You're the one who inferred that. Plenty of former congressmen and senators are not retired from public life and still parade their bullshit around. One is Newt Gingrich. He's been out of congress for as long as I've been alive it feels like and yet he's hardly retired.

You knew exactly what I was talking about. You just wanted to reply with a mean-spirited post about how ill-informed I was because you don't like the fact I'm not upset or praying that someone as awful as Ron Paul recovers fully so that he can continue some of his awful attacks.

Well enjoy that. I don't care. I wasn't ill-informed and I still hope this retires Paul so I don't have to ever hear another thing about him.

Have a good day.

hlthe2b

(103,412 posts)
50. We all cringed at the use
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:59 PM
Sep 2020

(from even one of our own) of "depends on what the meaning of "is" is"... yet apparently some learned some bad lessons from it.
Sad, indeed.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
58. It was rebuttal to his claim,
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 03:56 PM
Sep 2020

but was written in such a way as to put him/her down. Answer this post if you want but I won't see it because I am now going to ignore you so I won't have to read any more of your childish posts.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
31. "Let's" means let us.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:23 PM
Sep 2020

I don’t care for him, but don’t include me in your death/disability wishing, thanks in advance.

renate

(13,776 posts)
14. Oh my gosh, that was horrible
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:09 PM
Sep 2020

Awful awful awful. I don’t see anything on CNN about it yet; I hope he got to an ER quickly and makes a full recovery.

onecaliberal

(34,216 posts)
15. I shouldn't have watched that.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:10 PM
Sep 2020

My husband had a massive stroke almost 4 years ago. This triggered me. 😢😢😢😢😢😢

renate

(13,776 posts)
18. I'm so sorry
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:14 PM
Sep 2020

That experience must have been beyond traumatic for you, especially if you were with him when it happened.

MuseRider

(34,264 posts)
17. That was awful to see.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:12 PM
Sep 2020

I hope he is able to recover from that.

Not nearly a favorite person of mine but you gotta have compassion or you lose your own humanity. YMMV

Sugarcoated

(7,789 posts)
19. Omg...
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:14 PM
Sep 2020

Hope he's okay...I'm sure he's getting quick treatment which is so key in blunting the damage of a stroke

dalton99a

(82,370 posts)
20. Fox News says he has been hospitalized for "precautionary" reasons
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:15 PM
Sep 2020

Probably tPA treatment.

So, no, he ain't dead.



crickets

(26,133 posts)
22. Oh, that's awful to see.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:17 PM
Sep 2020

I hate to see that happen to anyone. I hope he has prompt treatment and a good prognosis for recovery.

LakeArenal

(29,188 posts)
26. Would he have the empathy for me that I feel for him and his family.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:20 PM
Sep 2020

This is not a political issue. Good that he has Cadillac insurance.

mahatmakanejeeves

(58,724 posts)
34. Wow, that was dramatic. I didn't know they happened that fast.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:26 PM
Sep 2020

Speaking of fast:

Stroke Symptoms
By learning and sharing the F.A.S.T. warning signs, you just might save a life from stroke.


I'm sure he knew just what was happening.

Docreed2003

(17,087 posts)
40. Jesus, that's awful
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:31 PM
Sep 2020

Regardless of how I feel about his atrocious politics and his personal beliefs, that is just awful. Truly sad watching that happen in real time. Some may be wondering why he continued talking but in gibberish, it's because whatever neurologic event he just sustained affected the Broca's area of the brain which creates a type of aphasia where the individual is cognitively aware of what they want to say and can understand speech but they can't vocalize it, which I can only imagine is a nightmare.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
41. I dislike most of his political beliefs but I hope he recovers okay...
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:32 PM
Sep 2020

and learns more humanity and empathy from the experience.

::sigh:: This was hard for me to watch and brought about a bit of a flashback. My mother had horribly debilitating strokes when I was very young that left her barely able to walk, unable to talk or write well at all (the last one killed her). Since then, as a nurse and an in-law caregiver, I've taken care of stroke patients and my heart aches for some of the worst ones.

kimbutgar

(21,869 posts)
47. My Late Grandfather had a stroke in front of me when I was a kid and it sounded the same
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 02:43 PM
Sep 2020

I ran and told my Dad who told me to not panic and keep speaking to him while he called the EMT. I kept talking to him asking him questions and he came out of it. He recovered and lived another 6 years and died at 91.

KWR65

(1,098 posts)
51. Thank goodness he has Medicare and a hospital stay won't bankrupt him
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 03:03 PM
Sep 2020
Unlike the people that have a medical emergency with no insurance that he thinks should suffer & die. Medicare for All.

tblue37

(65,831 posts)
59. If he's lucky it could just be a TIA. That happened to me 15 years ago, but since it was
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 04:01 PM
Sep 2020

a TIA (transient ischemic attack), I recovered fully sitting a few hours.

My right side went floppy, and my speech was garbled.

For his sake I hope it's a TIA, despite my dislike of the man and his evil spawn.

JI7

(89,615 posts)
64. That is sad , but I thought it was referring to Rand at first
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 04:44 PM
Sep 2020

and I don't think that would have made me feel as bad .

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