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yellowcanine

(36,826 posts)
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 04:58 PM Sep 2020

Hoisted on their own petard. The ballots were discarded because of the "naked ballot" ruling of the

PA Supreme Court.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/the-9-discarded-ballots-were-tossed-because-republicans-won-their-lawsuit-requiring-them-to-not-be-counted-report/

It looks as if a contractor employee many have screwed up or was following wrong information. But there is no indication there was deliberate fraud. Once again Billy Boy Barr and Trump got it wrong and politicized it.

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Hoisted on their own petard. The ballots were discarded because of the "naked ballot" ruling of the (Original Post) yellowcanine Sep 2020 OP
Figured as much. K&R. n/t rzemanfl Sep 2020 #1
Yeah this was what I suspected also. yellowcanine Sep 2020 #2
Watch them say the naked ballot rule shouldn't have been applied to rzemanfl Sep 2020 #3
Too bad there's no middle ground, eh? jaxexpat Sep 2020 #15
Honestly, I think the rule they really want to impose tanyev Sep 2020 #18
Because of that AND a bunch of military Trumpers not following instructions... regnaD kciN Sep 2020 #4
Alert the media! Oh... Wait. dchill Sep 2020 #5
That is the number one reason Wellstone ruled Sep 2020 #6
...like wearing masks, social distancing, washing hands, etc. nt pazzyanne Sep 2020 #9
Back during the 2004 & 2008 elections ... aggiesal Sep 2020 #10
Have to say, Wellstone ruled Sep 2020 #11
The PA Supreme Court is not controlled by Republicans. blue neen Sep 2020 #7
PSA's PSA's PSA's Karma13612 Sep 2020 #8
However, even if those 9 discarded votes were replicated in all 50 States IndianaDave Sep 2020 #12
How many states besides Pa. gab13by13 Sep 2020 #17
I apologize -- I really don't know the answer to that. IndianaDave Sep 2020 #21
Apes:Orangetan and Billy Barrboon StClone Sep 2020 #13
The PA State Supreme Court is 5 (D) - 2 (R) BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #14
Another example of why private companies should not be doing government functions. marble falls Sep 2020 #16
Trump and Barr: Dumb and Dumber Joinfortmill Sep 2020 #19
FTR, every miliatary base or unit has an DeminPennswoods Sep 2020 #20
PA Supreme Court is controlled by Democrats (5-2) jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #22
K&R Blue Owl Sep 2020 #23
And they have been fighting for the right to throw out naked ballots StarfishSaver Sep 2020 #24
I think it was a turd/barrbarr sting that backfired. not_the_one Sep 2020 #25
Again: I keep saying...we need a law that makes it a capital crime to interfere with any BComplex Sep 2020 #26
Well if the military is so supposed to use the inner envelope than they need to do so. Demsrule86 Sep 2020 #27

rzemanfl

(31,462 posts)
3. Watch them say the naked ballot rule shouldn't have been applied to
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 05:13 PM
Sep 2020

exclude the votes of our "heroes." Or is it "suckers and losers?"

tanyev

(49,676 posts)
18. Honestly, I think the rule they really want to impose
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 06:45 PM
Sep 2020

is that every vote for Trump is counted, no matter the circumstances and every vote for Biden is thrown away. That’s how Donny defines fairness.

regnaD kciN

(27,698 posts)
4. Because of that AND a bunch of military Trumpers not following instructions...
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 05:14 PM
Sep 2020

...but it doesn't matter, because the "Democrats cheating with mail-in votes" narrative has already been set.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. That is the number one reason
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 05:40 PM
Sep 2020

Ballots are rejected.. Amazing how folks do not read the Instructions,but not surprised. Once again,people will mess up a two car funeral.

Our HOA Board Election had a similar issue,folks would drop off their ballot at the office without putting it in the Outer Envelope as required by state law. As one of the counters,we had to throw out two dozen because they lacked the proper outer sleeve.

Some persons refuse to follow instructions no matter what.

aggiesal

(10,915 posts)
10. Back during the 2004 & 2008 elections ...
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 06:08 PM
Sep 2020

I was in a Voter Advisory group in San Diego County.
Back then, for Absentee Ballots, the ROV placed Check Box on the outside of the envelope
for "SPOILED" ballots.

The idea is that if you screwed up your ballot, you can mail it in with the "SPOILED" box checked,
and then get a new ballot re-mailed back to you.

But we argued, "It's on the outside! Anyone can check the box and that vote would never get counted."

ROV claimed that would never happen.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. Have to say,
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 06:18 PM
Sep 2020

we found two ballots that were returned as instructed only to be left totally blank. So they are counted as zero.

Karma13612

(5,011 posts)
8. PSA's PSA's PSA's
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 06:03 PM
Sep 2020

We need to drill it into people how to vote, when to vote, etc.

I know in NY we are inundated with State Funded Anti-Smoking campaign ads. They are extremely effective too!

Info on voting?

Crickets

In the battle ground states, we need to be doing everything we can.
Repetition is key.

IndianaDave

(660 posts)
12. However, even if those 9 discarded votes were replicated in all 50 States
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 06:24 PM
Sep 2020

and it were multiplied by 10, even 45,000 votes across the United States -- with a minimum of 120,000,000 votes, would do nothing to change the result of the election. This is another nonsensical (Republican) effort to promote a non-existent problem.

IndianaDave

(660 posts)
21. I apologize -- I really don't know the answer to that.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 06:53 PM
Sep 2020

But I'm pretty confident that some votes are mistakenly discarded throughout the country. No idea how many.

BumRushDaShow

(172,207 posts)
14. The PA State Supreme Court is 5 (D) - 2 (R)
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 06:37 PM
Sep 2020

so very much MAJORITY Dem AND they were elected by we the PA people!

DeminPennswoods

(17,580 posts)
20. FTR, every miliatary base or unit has an
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 06:50 PM
Sep 2020

officer who is assigned (additional duty) to be the voting officer. They are there to answer all questions and help with voting procedures for any military member wishing to exercise their right to vote.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
25. I think it was a turd/barrbarr sting that backfired.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 11:48 PM
Sep 2020

Chris Hayes had a segment on it...


snip ---

Chris says, "He reviewed the issue with the ballots in question and said, “Clearly someone messed up. These envelopes should not have been opened. And of course ballots should not be randomly thrown away. Don’t do that. That’s bad. But there is zero evidence anything deliberately criminal happening here at all. And it is completely inappropriate for the U.S. Attorney’s office to be basically live tweeting their findings as they investigate this, including having to pull them down and correct them. DOJ policy calls for keeping voter fraud investigations under wraps to avoid affecting the election outcome. This was an obvious clear violation of that policy by the U.S. Attorney and William Barr, the president. But now we see what the plan is.”

snip ---

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-hayes-barr-doj-is-colluding-with-the-president-and-his-campaign-to-sabotage-the-legitimacy-of-the-upcoming-election/

This was the plan all along. They had to set up the whole "mail-in ballots are fraudulent" meme before they could then actually "find" the fraudulent ballots.

I'm sure more will come out about this.

BComplex

(9,958 posts)
26. Again: I keep saying...we need a law that makes it a capital crime to interfere with any
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 12:49 PM
Sep 2020

person's right to vote.

And people need to be taught to vote just like they're taught to drive. It needs to be shown on tv and on social media over & over.

We aren't that fucking stupid of a country that we can't fix some of these problems easily.

But starting with a law of MANDATORY JAIL TIME for ANYONE who interferes with an election in any way is a good start.

Demsrule86

(71,555 posts)
27. Well if the military is so supposed to use the inner envelope than they need to do so.
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 12:50 PM
Sep 2020

The GOP went to court for this rule...can't have it both ways.

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