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kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 09:53 AM Sep 2020

This electoral college crap has to go. I'm so tired of having

to pander to low intelligence Fox news listening sheep people deciding the direction of the country. With the EC and gerrymandering we lose the advantage of the majority every time. More voted for Hillary by millions. There's more Democratic voters than republican constantly in state elections yet we lose. There is no way trump wouldn't be run out on a rail save for the Electoral college. People need their votes to count and now they really don't.

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This electoral college crap has to go. I'm so tired of having (Original Post) kacekwl Sep 2020 OP
EC is usually I_UndergroundPanther Sep 2020 #1
Yes, sort of. The Framers, even though giving the vote to only free, white men, and often only... TreasonousBastard Sep 2020 #2
All you need to do is convince the Congress to convene a Constitutional Convention, dware Sep 2020 #3
Sort of like what happened with the other 27 amendments Yeehah Sep 2020 #5
I agree, dware Sep 2020 #6
While we're at it.... Yeehah Sep 2020 #4
EC good/bad? keithbvadu2 Sep 2020 #7

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
2. Yes, sort of. The Framers, even though giving the vote to only free, white men, and often only...
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 10:10 AM
Sep 2020

property owners, still worried that they wouldn't be bright enough to properly elect senators, either.

Senators are now directly elected, black people can vote, women can vote, poor people can vote, but we still can''t directly vote for President. But abolishing the EC requires a constitutional amendment, and both sides don't trust the consequences enough to try.

It would probably be a lot easier to work at the state level and try to get all states to get electors to be appointed proportionally with the votes. It's the "winner take all" that causes most of the problems.







dware

(12,325 posts)
3. All you need to do is convince the Congress to convene a Constitutional Convention,
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 10:16 AM
Sep 2020

get 2/3rds of the Congress to pass an amendment, then get 3/4ths of the states to ratify it.

Another thing to ponder, if a Constitutional Convention is convened, that opens up everything to potential change, which the R's would love to do.

Be careful what you wish for.

Just for the record, I agree with everything you said in your post.

Yeehah

(4,574 posts)
5. Sort of like what happened with the other 27 amendments
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 10:25 AM
Sep 2020

It might not be politically possible at this time, but it should be done as soon as possible.

dware

(12,325 posts)
6. I agree,
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 10:28 AM
Sep 2020

it's more than likely not possible at this juncture in time, but it will come as the younger generation takes the reins of government.

Yeehah

(4,574 posts)
4. While we're at it....
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 10:23 AM
Sep 2020

let's get rid of the irrational apportionment of two senators for pieces of real estate. There is no good reason Rhode Island should have equal power in the Senate with California.

keithbvadu2

(36,722 posts)
7. EC good/bad?
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 10:36 AM
Sep 2020

In 2012, Donald Trump tweeted that the electoral college system was a 'disaster for a democracy.'

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-described-the-electoral-college-as-a-disaster/

After losing the popular vote, President-elect Donald Trump has decided that the Electoral College is a pretty smart way to elect a president after all.

http://fortune.com/2016/11/17/donald-trump-electoral-college-hillary-clinton-popular-vote/

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