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Sat Sep 26, 2020, 04:54 PM

Added benefit of vaccines

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200915-the-mystery-of-why-some-vaccines-are-doubly-beneficial

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Reply Added benefit of vaccines (Original post)
Cosmo Blues Sep 2020 OP
live love laugh Sep 2020 #1
Beartracks Sep 2020 #4
live love laugh Sep 2020 #6
Beartracks Sep 2020 #7
mahina Sep 2020 #5
Ms. Toad Sep 2020 #9
live love laugh Sep 2020 #11
Karadeniz Sep 2020 #2
Beartracks Sep 2020 #3
FuzzyRabbit Sep 2020 #8
tavernier Sep 2020 #10
marybourg Sep 2020 #12

Response to Cosmo Blues (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2020, 05:03 PM

1. What's the article say?

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Response to live love laugh (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 26, 2020, 05:22 PM

4. Here's part of it.

"For more than a century, certain vaccines have been providing us with a kind of clandestine bonus protection – one that goes far beyond what was ever intended.

"Not only can these mysterious effects protect us in childhood, they can also reduce our risk of dying at every stage of our lives. Research in Guinea-Bissau found that people with scars from the smallpox vaccine were up to 80% more likely to still be alive around three years after the study began, while in Denmark, scientists discovered that those who had the tuberculosis vaccine in childhood were 42% less likely to die of natural causes until they were 45 years old. It’s also true in dogs: an experiment in South Africa found that dogs that had been vaccinated against rabies had much higher survival rates, beyond what would be expected from their immunity to rabies alone.

"Other happy accidents include protecting us from pathogens which are entirely unrelated to their target, reducing the severity of allergies, fighting certain cancers, and helping to prevent Alzheimer’s disease. The tuberculosis vaccine is currently being trialled for its ability to guard against Covid-19, though the microorganisms behind the two diseases are entirely different – one is caused by a bacterium, the other by a virus. And the two are separated by 3.4 billion years of evolution.

"Despite decades of research, these surreptitious effects still haven’t given up their secrets. But until we understand them, scientists are reluctant to use them to their advantage – so the race is on to find out what’s going on."

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One of the concerns cited later in the article is that as we eradicate diseases like smallpox and polio, we stop giving the vaccines and thus stop getting the long-term non-specific benefits, which ultimately INCREASES mortality in a population.

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Response to Beartracks (Reply #4)

Sat Sep 26, 2020, 05:25 PM

6. Thanks 😊 I avoid links unless I have some idea of the content. nt

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Response to live love laugh (Reply #6)

Sat Sep 26, 2020, 05:30 PM

7. No problem! I edited my post to also add a comment to it.

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Response to live love laugh (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 26, 2020, 05:34 PM

9. Not much.

The feel of the article is much like those articles that tease you up front with some astounding fact, you start reading the article and find nothing, but keep reading since it must be just around hte corner . . . and just around the corner never materializes.

Here's the TLDR version: Vaccines - good stuff happens beyond what we would expect from just prevention of a specific illness. Oh, and order matters. Finally, no one has ever done a follow up study once we've eradicated an illness and the vaccines stop.

Pretty much it. There's 10 minutes I won't get back again.

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Response to Ms. Toad (Reply #9)

Sat Sep 26, 2020, 05:50 PM

11. Thanks for saving me 10 minutes

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Response to Cosmo Blues (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2020, 05:13 PM

2. Fascinating!!!!

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Response to Cosmo Blues (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2020, 05:18 PM

3. Fascinating.

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Response to Cosmo Blues (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2020, 05:33 PM

8. This is important. I want to learn more.


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Response to Cosmo Blues (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2020, 05:35 PM

10. I had the TB vaccine at the age of 4

I wonder if it is still offering me any protection?

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Response to Cosmo Blues (Original post)

Sat Sep 26, 2020, 06:14 PM

12. I wonder which vaccine is helping to prevent

Alzheimer’s?

I love BBC, but I take them with a large grain of salt.

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