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LonePirate

(13,427 posts)
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:18 PM Sep 2020

His tax returns won't change anything

His supporters are likely jealous that he paid so little in taxes and they likely are proud that he cheated the government they hate so much.

His SCOTUS nominee will still get approved and she will take away our health care and our rights one by one.

Our only hope is that a few people who were sitting on the sidelines may be more inclined to vote now.

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His tax returns won't change anything (Original Post) LonePirate Sep 2020 OP
Totally lame take BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #1
I agree with you as the story stands right now. Claustrum Sep 2020 #2
It will be interesting to see what SDNY does. Nt spooky3 Sep 2020 #7
Didn't the SDNY already have a tax fraud case against Trump? Claustrum Sep 2020 #14
Barbara McQuade is talking about this now on MSNBC. See also: spooky3 Sep 2020 #31
The important thing is, he gets rattled, set back on his heels Walleye Sep 2020 #3
Rattled at bare minimum. More likely dysfunctionally stressed, if not already. BlueWavePsych Sep 2020 #28
I agree. But it doesn't help him texasfiddler Sep 2020 #4
Agree it won't impact his supporters rufus dog Sep 2020 #5
Some conflicted supporters may abstain. BlueWavePsych Sep 2020 #29
I'm sorry to say I agree with you. spooky3 Sep 2020 #6
Don't worry. You will be. BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #16
Thank you! spooky3 Sep 2020 #26
It's another news cycle he loses, which means one less opportunity to get back into this race. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #8
That's how I view it as well. Dream Girl Sep 2020 #15
This! Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #20
+1 SoonerPride Sep 2020 #32
We're not after his supporters Sympthsical Sep 2020 #9
Perhaps but it just puts him on the defensive going into crunch time Quixote1818 Sep 2020 #10
What is more important than moving votes, however... Silent3 Sep 2020 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2020 #12
I agree. Most of his supporters can't balance their own checkbooks. Buckeyeblue Sep 2020 #13
Forget balance their checkbooks. discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2020 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2020 #21
I agree this won't be headline news Wednesday FloridaBlues Sep 2020 #17
We don't want anything to change! Biden is winning! Johnny2X2X Sep 2020 #18
Bingo! nt Quixote1818 Sep 2020 #27
Yes it will. smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #22
Drumpf's lawyers may now be worried that they may not get paid. BlueWavePsych Sep 2020 #30
Silly ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #23
Totally agree. nt Raine Sep 2020 #24
I think it hurts him, how much we will see. Baked Potato Sep 2020 #25

BannonsLiver

(16,407 posts)
1. Totally lame take
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:22 PM
Sep 2020



Not at all insightful. Also, his supporters aren’t the only people voting in this election. They really don’t matter.

Be best.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
2. I agree with you as the story stands right now.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:22 PM
Sep 2020

But what we don't know is if there is evidence of his cooking the books for such a huge write-off. If we can find such evidence, then this is a huge story because it has criminal implications.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
14. Didn't the SDNY already have a tax fraud case against Trump?
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:29 PM
Sep 2020

If so, they already have the evidence. We just need the NYT or other news outlets to find those out and report it.

There will be some people supporting him till the end of the earth but a lot more people will change their mind if the president is a proven tax fraud.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
5. Agree it won't impact his supporters
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:23 PM
Sep 2020

FUCK THEM, and everyone needs to never, ever, ever forget that every tRump supporter is bad.

But this is not about them, write them off, this is about the majority of Americans who are Democrats, (more of us than Repukes) and more importantly all of the Independents. This hurts him with the vast majority of Independents, who go to work and pay their fair share of taxes.

spooky3

(34,461 posts)
6. I'm sorry to say I agree with you.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:23 PM
Sep 2020

As the NYT article stated, there are many unanswered questions. For example, these are not audited returns. How does the NYT know whether he had unreported dirty income in many years? How do they know whether he really put lots of money into his properties, creating real losses, versus he’s simply claiming he had all those expenses?

Even without answers, the complexity of the entries on the returns will mean the average American won’t understand the returns. So the Trump supporters will interpret what’s reported as you said, and the undecideds won’t know what to believe.

I hope we both are wrong.

Sympthsical

(9,081 posts)
9. We're not after his supporters
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:24 PM
Sep 2020

If they haven’t abandoned him after everything, nothing else will budge them.

But the mushy middle and nonvoters, they can be shifted. I can’t see this not pissing a good chunk of them off.

Quixote1818

(28,950 posts)
10. Perhaps but it just puts him on the defensive going into crunch time
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:24 PM
Sep 2020

Makes it that much harder to bring anyone on the line over to his side. This is NOT a good situation for him to be able to start turning the polls around.

Silent3

(15,241 posts)
11. What is more important than moving votes, however...
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:25 PM
Sep 2020

...is taking more and more wind out of the sails of those who are propping Trump up. This makes it a lot less appealing to perform dirty deeds on Trump's behalf.

Response to LonePirate (Original post)

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
13. I agree. Most of his supporters can't balance their own checkbooks.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:28 PM
Sep 2020

But this is awfully embarrassing for him. He had to know this would eventually come out. It just reeks of fraud. This is probably what Putin has had on him. Really shitty finances. I also think this shows he lied on his financial statement when he ran for president.

Response to Buckeyeblue (Reply #13)

FloridaBlues

(4,008 posts)
17. I agree this won't be headline news Wednesday
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 07:36 PM
Sep 2020

It will fade just like numerous other breaking news.
He will continue to say fake news all during debate and leading into the debate

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
22. Yes it will.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:03 PM
Sep 2020

It will take a toll on him and his family. This is a huge blow to them.

It might not change the SCOTUS nomination or sway the loyalty of his cult, but this means he and his family are ruined. That is the only thing they really care about. And I think this is just the beginning. They are going down and they know it.

This will change everything.

ProfessorGAC

(65,094 posts)
23. Silly
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:09 PM
Sep 2020

It doesn't have change any of the 40% minds.
It can, however, make a difference with those 8% that polls show do not yet have a preference.
50-42 Biden leaves 8% uncommitted.
If this makes 3 out of 8 drift from PINO, 53-47 results in a 96.5% chance of an EC win.
So, of course this makes a difference.
Quit worrying about the 35 of the 42.
They're irretrievable.
It's the other 8 to 15.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
25. I think it hurts him, how much we will see.
Sun Sep 27, 2020, 08:33 PM
Sep 2020

This is another piece of his filthy life exposed. Maybe those coal miners won’t like to have probably paid way more taxes than Dump.

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