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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 11:49 AM Sep 2020

Pushing through the SCOTUS nomination pre-election may be a fatal mistake for Trump

Think about it, there are a lot of pro-life happy clappy types who are not wedded completely to the cult, but having a conservative court is their most important priority. You know the ones in the pro life crowd that can excuse pretty much everything as long as a candidate promises to steal reproductive justice from right under women’s noses? With cray cray women hating woman in for a cert for the seat vacated by the notorious RBG, they have got what they want. A 6-3 court which will kick Roe V Wade into touch the first chance they get. Given this fact, what motivation do they have to turn out for Trump? I am sure that a lot of these women hates the way he talks about and treats women. I am sure a lot of men have struggled with the inability to financially support their families in this time of economic crisis – you know these types where the man is the head of the household… I am equally as sure that some have lost loved ones to the pandemic. I am sure that some have been evicted from their homes. So, that being the case, now he has given them what they want, where is the motivation to vote for a man who has fucked up literally everything he has touched in this most difficult of years? I mean Trump does not really care if there is a conservative court, other than his plans to steal the election. That is why he is pushing this through, even though it won’t work. But it will decrease the motivation of some of those who voted for him in spite of him, not because of him and McConnell knows this, right? Taken to its logical conclusion, McConnell is happy to sacrifice a 2nd term for Trump to get a conservative court as he sees his red wall start to crumble.

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Pushing through the SCOTUS nomination pre-election may be a fatal mistake for Trump (Original Post) Soph0571 Sep 2020 OP
You still think her nomination will even get out of committee? Rule of Claw Sep 2020 #1
Come hell or high water Soph0571 Sep 2020 #3
What are these rumblings? NT enough Sep 2020 #8
The Bank. Rumblings among K streeters. Rule of Claw Sep 2020 #12
Let's hope some of the details see the light soon. NT enough Sep 2020 #23
Rule of Claw.... Upthevibe Sep 2020 #13
In regard to #2P, shunning is a powerful motivator. Just sayin' Backseat Driver Sep 2020 #18
Just Published an OP Rule of Claw Sep 2020 #21
He never does. Statistical Sep 2020 #22
I never said what I know for a fact. Rule of Claw Sep 2020 #24
The R's control the Senate, all they need are 50 votes with Pence dware Sep 2020 #19
Rule of Claw...Thanks! Upthevibe Sep 2020 #26
I agree. They have nothing to run on really but filling the Supreme Court seat. Walleye Sep 2020 #2
Yep Soph0571 Sep 2020 #5
Thomas will need to retire of possibly pass away in the next eight years. Statistical Sep 2020 #14
I Tend To Agree, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2020 #4
They will be out of power for a generation Soph0571 Sep 2020 #6
Yes the dog caught the bus. Republicans do everything for victory in elections Walleye Sep 2020 #10
That is them, in a nutshell moose65 Sep 2020 #16
They seem so much happier when they're in the persecuted minority Walleye Sep 2020 #20
I certainly hope it's a fatal mistake, my dear Soph! CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2020 #7
SCOTUS rso Sep 2020 #9
Evengelicals always want more. Statistical Sep 2020 #11
She will easily go through. That's how they do things now. Patterson Sep 2020 #15
Pass the popcorn, please... Backseat Driver Sep 2020 #17
May it also be a fatal mistake BlueMTexpat Sep 2020 #25
K street? Cosmo Blues Sep 2020 #27
 

Rule of Claw

(500 posts)
1. You still think her nomination will even get out of committee?
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 11:51 AM
Sep 2020

With the rumblings out of D.C. I am hearing, I don't think anyone in this time frame would be approved.

Upthevibe

(8,072 posts)
13. Rule of Claw....
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 12:07 PM
Sep 2020

Could you be specific regarding "rumblings out of D.C." you've heard? Do you have a link of any credible articles discussing this nomination in the context of yesterday's events?

I'm not meaning to be rude . It's just that recently I've been struggling with the possibility of ending a long-term friendship with a friend who's become a QAnon quack. When I ask her questions about this ABSURD conspiracy theory, she can never cite a source other than it's on the internet, she saw a youtube video, she read somewhere, and on and on.

I'd love it if this does benefit the SCOTUS situation. Having said that, would you cite articles, discussions you've seen, etc. Thank you.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
22. He never does.
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 12:44 PM
Sep 2020

He also knows Trump WILL resign. Not might resign but already a done deal absolutely will happen. He also knows the Amy won't be confirmed.

 

Rule of Claw

(500 posts)
24. I never said what I know for a fact.
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 01:12 PM
Sep 2020

I gave opinions.

Would you like to know what I know for a fact?

Here is an appetizer.

Deutsche Bank National Trust held the loan for Marco Rubio's home in 2010.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bank-forecloses-on-fla-senate-candidates-home/

dware

(12,449 posts)
19. The R's control the Senate, all they need are 50 votes with Pence
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 12:31 PM
Sep 2020

being the tie breaker,

The R's are going to confirm her, despite all the hulabaloo in the country.

Walleye

(31,062 posts)
2. I agree. They have nothing to run on really but filling the Supreme Court seat.
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 11:52 AM
Sep 2020

Now that there’s no vacancy what are they campaigning on? certainly not their record

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
5. Yep
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 11:54 AM
Sep 2020

The evangelicals have got what they want and they know he is not really one of them, they ignored the worst of him cause SCOTUS, ironically the one promise that he made and he will keep is the one that could well screw him over.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
14. Thomas will need to retire of possibly pass away in the next eight years.
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 12:13 PM
Sep 2020

If Thomas is replaced with a liberal that brings the court back 5-4 and both Gorsuch and Roberts have at times voted with the liberal wing meaning some cases (not all cases but some cases) would then go 4-5 the other way.

The Magistrate

(95,255 posts)
4. I Tend To Agree, Ma'am
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 11:54 AM
Sep 2020

Overturning Roe v. Wade could well put the Republicans in the unfortunate position of the dog who actually caught the bus. Not only will doing this be widely unpopular, the next steps on the christo-fascist agenda agenda, such as restriction of birth control and divorce, are not only far more unpopular, but necessarily would come front and center. Not even trying to stir up panic over transexuals would suffice for cover.

Walleye

(31,062 posts)
10. Yes the dog caught the bus. Republicans do everything for victory in elections
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 12:03 PM
Sep 2020

Then they’re not the least bit interested in governing

moose65

(3,168 posts)
16. That is them, in a nutshell
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 12:16 PM
Sep 2020

They LOVE to campaign and they're pretty good at it, but they absolutely SUCK at actually running the government, and it's by design. The campaigns are always AGAINST something, or trying to "take back" something. Conservative politics is the politics of paranoia. Then, when they get elected, they try to "punish" people in certain groups. They don't really give a shit about running the government in a competent way.

rso

(2,273 posts)
9. SCOTUS
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 12:03 PM
Sep 2020

This is why democratic leaders are wisely avoiding comment on any talk of eliminating the filibuster and adding justices to SCOTUS, as any such comment would encourage evangelicals to still enthusiastically vote for Donnie and his sycophants.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
11. Evengelicals always want more.
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 12:05 PM
Sep 2020

Roberts could become more moderate. Thomas could die in the next eight years. You know what is better than 6-3 court? A 7-2 court or even better a 7-2 court plus replacing Thomas with a 35 year old theocrat who will keep the court dark red for the next 40-50 years.

RvW simply leaves it to the states. The next step would be to federally ban abortion to prevent those evil liberal states from allowing abortion.

It isn't just abortion. Striking down minimum wage laws and collective bargaining (many evangelicals believes in the completely non-biblical prosperity gospel). Strike marriage equality. Strike down protections for minorities and gays. Remove separation of church and state. Strike down protections on other religions. Create a defacto "super religion" unequal under the law.

They will never stop. They will never one day say "yup this is good enough".

That being said I think Dumpy is losing regardless. I believe he was going to lose even before RBG passing and before his business tax failings.

Backseat Driver

(4,399 posts)
17. Pass the popcorn, please...
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 12:26 PM
Sep 2020

Of course, a lot of Americans recognize this as a momentous event that would change how we live. The healthiest, mentally, will realize that the species will likely continue in spite of it, in an unaccustomed to fashion. Brains in humans being what they are, some are deeply concerned about events they'd not like to be around for - the demise of democracy, a pandemic that claims all humanity, a slow tortuous climate change event...People of hypocritical faith, welcome events that send themselves into the next journey, as long as they're a part of it.

The truth, as we know it now, says we're heading for a mass extinction event that perhaps we can perhaps slow...climate, nuclear war, death of the sun...

As a species or Americans, we've adjusted to many "scary" events in which millions of lives were lost; it's the wise human that would prefer to work at slowing the speed at which those events might occur. Our time is limited; everyone dies - even "ol Mitch." He is so without vision...dangerous, yes, but he misunderstands events and policies that we try to quell. Therefore, the long-term democratic survival instinct rails against anyone's short-sighted "minute in time" of everlasting power and villainy that attempts to hasten that apocalyptic event of mass extinction for the living that experience it.

Cosmo Blues

(2,494 posts)
27. K street?
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 01:22 PM
Sep 2020

If correct they own a lot more than two Republicans in the Senate. But they stand to gain so much more from this nominee, it sounds unlikely

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