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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPushing through the SCOTUS nomination pre-election may be a fatal mistake for Trump
Think about it, there are a lot of pro-life happy clappy types who are not wedded completely to the cult, but having a conservative court is their most important priority. You know the ones in the pro life crowd that can excuse pretty much everything as long as a candidate promises to steal reproductive justice from right under womens noses? With cray cray women hating woman in for a cert for the seat vacated by the notorious RBG, they have got what they want. A 6-3 court which will kick Roe V Wade into touch the first chance they get. Given this fact, what motivation do they have to turn out for Trump? I am sure that a lot of these women hates the way he talks about and treats women. I am sure a lot of men have struggled with the inability to financially support their families in this time of economic crisis you know these types where the man is the head of the household
I am equally as sure that some have lost loved ones to the pandemic. I am sure that some have been evicted from their homes. So, that being the case, now he has given them what they want, where is the motivation to vote for a man who has fucked up literally everything he has touched in this most difficult of years? I mean Trump does not really care if there is a conservative court, other than his plans to steal the election. That is why he is pushing this through, even though it wont work. But it will decrease the motivation of some of those who voted for him in spite of him, not because of him and McConnell knows this, right? Taken to its logical conclusion, McConnell is happy to sacrifice a 2nd term for Trump to get a conservative court as he sees his red wall start to crumble.
Rule of Claw
(500 posts)With the rumblings out of D.C. I am hearing, I don't think anyone in this time frame would be approved.
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)They will push this through
enough
(13,262 posts)Rule of Claw
(500 posts)enough
(13,262 posts)Upthevibe
(8,072 posts)Could you be specific regarding "rumblings out of D.C." you've heard? Do you have a link of any credible articles discussing this nomination in the context of yesterday's events?
I'm not meaning to be rude . It's just that recently I've been struggling with the possibility of ending a long-term friendship with a friend who's become a QAnon quack. When I ask her questions about this ABSURD conspiracy theory, she can never cite a source other than it's on the internet, she saw a youtube video, she read somewhere, and on and on.
I'd love it if this does benefit the SCOTUS situation. Having said that, would you cite articles, discussions you've seen, etc. Thank you.
Backseat Driver
(4,399 posts)Rule of Claw
(500 posts)Addressing a source of rumblings.
One source.
There are many sources.
Statistical
(19,264 posts)He also knows Trump WILL resign. Not might resign but already a done deal absolutely will happen. He also knows the Amy won't be confirmed.
Rule of Claw
(500 posts)I gave opinions.
Would you like to know what I know for a fact?
Here is an appetizer.
Deutsche Bank National Trust held the loan for Marco Rubio's home in 2010.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bank-forecloses-on-fla-senate-candidates-home/
dware
(12,449 posts)being the tie breaker,
The R's are going to confirm her, despite all the hulabaloo in the country.
Upthevibe
(8,072 posts)I'll check out these tweets....
Walleye
(31,062 posts)Now that theres no vacancy what are they campaigning on? certainly not their record
The evangelicals have got what they want and they know he is not really one of them, they ignored the worst of him cause SCOTUS, ironically the one promise that he made and he will keep is the one that could well screw him over.
Statistical
(19,264 posts)If Thomas is replaced with a liberal that brings the court back 5-4 and both Gorsuch and Roberts have at times voted with the liberal wing meaning some cases (not all cases but some cases) would then go 4-5 the other way.
The Magistrate
(95,255 posts)Overturning Roe v. Wade could well put the Republicans in the unfortunate position of the dog who actually caught the bus. Not only will doing this be widely unpopular, the next steps on the christo-fascist agenda agenda, such as restriction of birth control and divorce, are not only far more unpopular, but necessarily would come front and center. Not even trying to stir up panic over transexuals would suffice for cover.
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)Oh my!
Walleye
(31,062 posts)Then theyre not the least bit interested in governing
moose65
(3,168 posts)They LOVE to campaign and they're pretty good at it, but they absolutely SUCK at actually running the government, and it's by design. The campaigns are always AGAINST something, or trying to "take back" something. Conservative politics is the politics of paranoia. Then, when they get elected, they try to "punish" people in certain groups. They don't really give a shit about running the government in a competent way.
Walleye
(31,062 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,716 posts)Well put!
This is why democratic leaders are wisely avoiding comment on any talk of eliminating the filibuster and adding justices to SCOTUS, as any such comment would encourage evangelicals to still enthusiastically vote for Donnie and his sycophants.
Statistical
(19,264 posts)Roberts could become more moderate. Thomas could die in the next eight years. You know what is better than 6-3 court? A 7-2 court or even better a 7-2 court plus replacing Thomas with a 35 year old theocrat who will keep the court dark red for the next 40-50 years.
RvW simply leaves it to the states. The next step would be to federally ban abortion to prevent those evil liberal states from allowing abortion.
It isn't just abortion. Striking down minimum wage laws and collective bargaining (many evangelicals believes in the completely non-biblical prosperity gospel). Strike marriage equality. Strike down protections for minorities and gays. Remove separation of church and state. Strike down protections on other religions. Create a defacto "super religion" unequal under the law.
They will never stop. They will never one day say "yup this is good enough".
That being said I think Dumpy is losing regardless. I believe he was going to lose even before RBG passing and before his business tax failings.
Patterson
(1,531 posts)Backseat Driver
(4,399 posts)Of course, a lot of Americans recognize this as a momentous event that would change how we live. The healthiest, mentally, will realize that the species will likely continue in spite of it, in an unaccustomed to fashion. Brains in humans being what they are, some are deeply concerned about events they'd not like to be around for - the demise of democracy, a pandemic that claims all humanity, a slow tortuous climate change event...People of hypocritical faith, welcome events that send themselves into the next journey, as long as they're a part of it.
The truth, as we know it now, says we're heading for a mass extinction event that perhaps we can perhaps slow...climate, nuclear war, death of the sun...
As a species or Americans, we've adjusted to many "scary" events in which millions of lives were lost; it's the wise human that would prefer to work at slowing the speed at which those events might occur. Our time is limited; everyone dies - even "ol Mitch." He is so without vision...dangerous, yes, but he misunderstands events and policies that we try to quell. Therefore, the long-term democratic survival instinct rails against anyone's short-sighted "minute in time" of everlasting power and villainy that attempts to hasten that apocalyptic event of mass extinction for the living that experience it.
BlueMTexpat
(15,373 posts)for Moscow Mitch, all Senate GOPers, AND for the nominee herself!
Cosmo Blues
(2,494 posts)If correct they own a lot more than two Republicans in the Senate. But they stand to gain so much more from this nominee, it sounds unlikely